Survo is weird.

[randompersonrandom]

My tastes have very suddenly and very drastically changed. I still want girl scout cookies and creme brulee, and when I'm out in the world, I definitely still want pizza with feta and katamala olives and roasted tomatoes. But in my usual at-home life, I just want salted cucumbers on some kind of bread or tortilla (low or regular carb) with thin slices of avocado, rice and cabbage, maybe some baba ghanouj. No meat, no cheese, but some tofu is welcome.

I'm not saying "I feel like the only thing I'm allowed to eat is." I'm not even bothered about the final 9, it'll come off when it comes off. Nor am I even really concerned; I'm just going to have to start upping the tofu and making sure to take my vitamins if this continues much longer. "Not getting enough calories" has never been a risk for me. But it's been two weeks, came out of what felt like nowhere, and is such a weird feeling to think "oh, it's dinnertime" and go for the cucumbers for a "comfort meal." I ordered a tofu rice bowl at an Asian smokehouse last week and LOVED it.

I haven't upped my tirz. I'm not depressed. Nothing in my life has particularly changed except being pleased to have a Brand New Body. The only thing that changed between "I'm losing weight but I still want high calorie food, just not uncontrollably" and "I want crunchy, salted water and a little bit of simple carbs and nothing else" is that I upped my survo just a little. Not even a lot; I went from 1mg once a week to 1.6 mg split to 2x per week. I can only conclude that survo is weird.

 

[Zydeceltico]

My tastes have very suddenly and very drastically changed. I still want girl scout cookies and creme brulee, and when I'm out in the world, I definitely still want pizza with feta and katamala olives and roasted tomatoes. But in my usual at-home life, I just want salted cucumbers on some kind of bread or tortilla (low or regular carb) with thin slices of avocado, rice and cabbage, maybe some baba ghanouj. No meat, no cheese, but some tofu is welcome.

I'm not saying "I feel like the only thing I'm allowed to eat is." I'm not even bothered about the final 9, it'll come off when it comes off. Nor am I even really concerned; I'm just going to have to start upping the tofu and making sure to take my vitamins if this continues much longer. "Not getting enough calories" has never been a risk for me. But it's been two weeks, came out of what felt like nowhere, and is such a weird feeling to think "oh, it's dinnertime" and go for the cucumbers for a "comfort meal." I ordered a tofu rice bowl at an Asian smokehouse last week and LOVED it.

I haven't upped my tirz. I'm not depressed. Nothing in my life has particularly changed except being pleased to have a Brand New Body. The only thing that changed between "I'm losing weight but I still want high calorie food, just not uncontrollably" and "I want crunchy, salted water and a little bit of simple carbs and nothing else" is that I upped my survo just a little. Not even a lot; I went from 1mg once a week to 1.6 mg split to 2x per week. I can only conclude that survo is weird.

I have had exactly the same experience. Exactly.....including the minimal dosage. Have been on auto-pilot at GW with T & S since October. It all came together when I 1) did NOT up my T from 7.5 and 2) DID up my Survo from 1.2 to 1.8. It was like flying out of the clouds into a clear sky all at once where food is concerned. Has been ever since. It is def a trip.

Congrats!!

 

[cldfront]

Interesting. I will look for those sorts of cravings. I am at 2mg Survo (stacked with 15 Tirz) and just finally feeling the feels on my second dose of 2mg. A little nausea and a decent amount of food noise suppression that had faded with just my Tirz alone. But I was attributing my holiday sweets craze to the Survo and its glucagon component. I could just eat candy all day, and it got a little out of control until I applied some will-power to put the breaks on.

 

[Zydeceltico]

Interesting. I will look for those sorts of cravings. I am at 2mg Survo (stacked with 15 Tirz) and just finally feeling the feels on my second dose of 2mg. A little nausea and a decent amount of food noise suppression that had faded with just my Tirz alone. But I was attributing my holiday sweets craze to the Survo and its glucagon component. I could just eat candy all day, and it got a little out of control until I applied some will-power to put the breaks on.

To be clear, I have had zero feels from the survo - never once. I only had feels from the T for the first two weeks back in June.

What I notice is that I am not very hung up on food. I can take it or leave it. I know I need it - especially since I am also strength training to maintain lean muscle which means as much protein as I can muster which is tough but the nights of entire pizzas and mornings of one too many breakfast burritos are gone. I can have a piece or two of really good chocolate and I can get an italian sub from the local deli when I fail to make my super healthy lunch for work - and it's more than OK as I already know that - currently - I am not going to immediately fall off that bingeing cliff again because basically the cliff is gone and I'm standing in the middle of Kansas. lol

Also, I def would not consider that my dosage schedule will work for any one else. It does for me but we're all different yet similar at the metabolic level.

 

[Calm Logic]

Has anyone tried just survo for a couple weeks?

I haven't experienced any major differences with reta vs. survo/tirz (ghetto reta) vs. tirz alone, etc. All GLPs feel more or less the same to me.

 

[swimmer]

Interesting thread!! I am in a simular situation. I have been at my goal weight for a while now. I am at 10 mg tirz with 2.5 mg Maz. The other "ghetto Reta". Lately I have been adding more muscle by almost obsessively weightlifting. The problem is over the last week the familiar binge before bed has returned. The food is mostly protein and healthy now but the off switch is malfunctioning. I plan on bumping Maz to 5 mg. Hopefully I too will start craving salted cucumber slices rather than anything in the fridge!!

 

[Zydeceltico]

The problem is over the last week the familiar binge before bed has returned.... Hopefully I too will start craving salted cucumber slices rather than anything in the fridge!!

Orgaine 30mg (not the 20) protein shakes (160 cal)(Costco btw) and non-fat cottage cheese (more protein) are my go-to "before bed" satiety when "needed." lol........... ymmv

 

[mousey]

how does it compare to reta? if you or anyone else has tried both?

 

[randompersonrandom]

how does it compare to reta? if you or anyone else has tried both?

I haven't tried out reta just yet. I really SHOULD, if I'm going to keep slowly stockpiling it, just so that I don't get years of it and find out I react poorly or something, but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

 

[Calm Logic]

how does it compare to reta? if you or anyone else has tried both?

About the same, but I only got to 3 mg of reta. And all the GLPs seem more similar than not to me. The only one I haven't tried yet is maz.

I haven't tried out reta just yet. I really SHOULD, if I'm going to keep slowly stockpiling it, just so that I don't get years of it and find out I react poorly or something, but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

My main motivation to restart reta is for even better bloodwork, like for lower LDL.

 

[randompersonrandom]

About the same, but I only got to 3 mg of reta. And all the GLPs seem more similar than not to me.



My main motivation to restart reta is for even better bloodwork, like for lower LDL.

I really do thing there's an excellent chance it will be my maintenance peptide someday. Though if tirz alone was enough to bring it down (last time it shot up, around five years ago, losing weight WAS enough to get it all back down to normal. Of course, then I gained it back and now I'm old), I'll be so glad.