Grey (Chinese) Market Getting Noticed by Lawmakers

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Sen. Tom Cotton
Someone's got or is gonna get a nice campaign donation from BP...

"A recent analysis from the Food and Drug Administration and U.S. Customs and Border Patrol shows that between September 2023 and January 2025, 195 illegal shipments of APIs, likely used in compounded weight loss medications, entered the U.S. market."

Half of those went to a coffee shop in Texas 🤣

"It is estimated that as of January 2026, up to 1.5 million American patients could be using unregulated compounded weight loss medications that may contain potentially dangerous ingredients from Chinese manufacturers."

Nearly all are changing their health outcomes for the better and are thriving🙂
 
It’s just more posturing for campaign contributions. He can write all the letters he wants but it’s not gonna make a difference. Fentanyl is a much bigger priority and they can’t stop that. Preventing Americans from loosing weight and improving their life’s isn’t worth their time.
 
byefatlicia said:
Sen. Tom Cotton
Someone's got or is gonna get a nice campaign donation from BP...
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And there it is.... It's all about cash and corruption.

Plain truth is that the State which Mr. Cotton represents is generally in the top 3 to 5 states with the most obesity depending on the list. Mr. Cotton should be working on helping his constituents find affordable solutions to glp-1 medications rather than sending these types of letters to the FDA.

The 195 shipments over 17 months is almost comical. I was thinking 195 shipments per day. And where is the other 40% of API coming from? I thought CN was supplying 90% or more of this stuff.
 
Ragnar said:
It’s just more posturing for campaign contributions. He can write all the letters he wants but it’s not gonna make a difference. Fentanyl is a much bigger priority and they can’t stop that. Preventing Americans from loosing weight and improving their life’s isn’t worth their time.
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I think you're try to apply moral logic to what is much more likely to become a financial decision. While I might agree with you in an aspirational sense (e.g. it would be nice if fentanyl was a bigger priority), the federal government (especially to the extent political influence is exerted) isn't know for holding aspirational ideals above the financial considerations of those involved.
 
Peptidesearch said:
Of course, my gf thinks I'm crazy for stocking up. After being suddenly kicked off my GLP by my so called "Health Plan", I swore that would never happen again. This country is an absolute disgrace when it comes to healthcare.
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It is disgraceful... because it not our health they're focused on. It's our wealth. There's no money to be made off healthy people in the "industry".
 
There are millions of parcels shipped per day. Tracking and seizing which of these are peptides raises cost/risk. They can go after big US sellers/websites, but you see how many foreign vendors there are, and they use discrete shipping methods.

Bulk up on them if you like I guess. They will last years even if not perfectly stored. But I think the grey peptide market is going to be around for a while even if they start "ramping up enforcement" (whatever that means).
 
Ragnar said:
It’s just more posturing for campaign contributions. He can write all the letters he wants but it’s not gonna make a difference. Fentanyl is a much bigger priority and they can’t stop that. Preventing Americans from loosing weight and improving their life’s isn’t worth their time.
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Except it is (respectfully), because pharma makes it worth their time, through massive campaign contributions, (as you said). Fentanyl totally different.
 
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Speak_Easy said:
Except it is (respectfully), because pharma makes it worth their time, through massive campaign contributions. Fentanyl totally different.
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Maybe he got up one morning and thought to himself... "I know that'll be a good use of my legislative power... I'll save the GLP1 users from the stuff that's making them healthy"

Yeah right😂
 
byefatlicia said:
Maybe he got up one morning and thought to himself... "I know that'll be a good use of my legislative power... I'll save the GLP1 users from the stuff that's making them healthy"

Yeah right😂
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Haha...yeah these guys don't do anything that doesn't serve their number one priority...getting reelected. Which as we all know requires stupid amounts of cold, hard, CASH.
 
If and it is likely going to be more when then "IF" congress decides to intervene they will only be able to move against vendors operated on US soil or shipped from US warehouses. As long as there is a customer base in the US willing to pay to import GLP1s and other peptides there will be producers willing to ship them here gray market or otherwise. Will them cracking down make it trickier to get or drive our prices up? That may happen for sure. Will they be able to completely close the market and end the gray market sales. Hell no!
 
If the oils supplies mentioned on other sites is any
Jerrey said:
If and it is likely going to be more when then "IF" congress decides to intervene they will only be able to move against vendors operated on US soil or shipped from US warehouses. As long as there is a customer base in the US willing to pay to import GLP1s and other peptides there will be producers willing to ship them here gray market or otherwise. Will them cracking down make it trickier to get or drive our prices up? That may happen for sure. Will they be able to completely close the market and end the gray market sales. Hell no!
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If the oils supply is any indication, this is correct. They have been trying to stop this market for ages and it still thrives.
 
zootielolo said:
If the oils supplies mentioned on other sites is any

If the oils supply is any indication, this is correct. They have been trying to stop this market for ages and it still thrives.
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Exactly my point! They can't effectively stem the tide of Fentanyl which does actually represent a true crisis for public health! So how are they going to be able to shut down gray market peptides/ GLP-1s that are actually helping us live healthier better lives.
 
Meanwhile, pharmacies like CVS, Rite Aid, and Walgreens get their medications from Chinese manufacturers and sell them to us for damn near triple or more. They can kiss our skinny asses.

They're just mad that we found a loophole that doesn't require us to break wallets.

Then adding a sprinkle of dangerous as a keyword. Does Rite Aid do COAs? Nope, they depend on the COAs of the chinese manufactorers.
 
A lot of people here are pointing to the war on drugs being a "failure" and throwing that out as an example. That is a naive position to take. The war on drugs was hardly a failure. It was very much a success for private prison companies, drug treatment centers, and anybody else who stands to financially benefit from an ongoing "war" of that sort that justifies obscene government spending in favor of some vague aspirational cause. When the government declares a war on something that typically means you're going to get more of it because the people getting paid by the government to fight that war want to keep their livelihoods going. We could only dream that the government would declare a war on peptides.

Instead what is going to happen is they're going to clamp down on "counterfeit" and "dangerous" drugs entering our country illegally. Now this is no easy task to stamp out using current laws, but there's certainly the financial incentive to pass new laws and this has been done before. Back when music and movies was going digital the entertainment industry pushed the DMCA, which criminalized some pretty crazy things that we're still dealing with today. When that didn't prove to be enough the RIAA fought in some pretty clever ways (to the point where they were mass filing lawsuits against random people on the internet) to shut down music sharing online. They only backed down when they found a balance where ~80% of people went back to paying for their music and going after the rest just wasn't necessary anymore.

Those lawyers were pretty cutthroat, but they've got nothing on big pharma. Pharma has a history of knowingly killing and maiming people by suppressing or manipulating data (e.g. see Vioxx, contaminated Factor VIII, Oxy, or just google "largest criminal fine in US history"). I've got some ideas for how this could play out, but I'm not going to share them publicly because for those not as familiar with this history they'd probably sound insane.
 
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Sen. Tom Cotton
Someone's got or is gonna get a nice campaign donation from BP...

"A recent analysis from the Food and Drug Administration and U.S. Customs and Border Patrol shows that between September 2023 and January 2025, 195 illegal shipments of APIs, likely used in compounded weight loss medications, entered the U.S. market."

Half of those went to a coffee shop in Texas 🤣

"It is estimated that as of January 2026, up to 1.5 million American patients could be using unregulated compounded weight loss medications that may contain potentially dangerous ingredients from Chinese manufacturers."

Nearly all are changing their health outcomes for the better and are thriving🙂
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JoonyO said:
It is disgraceful... because it not our health they're focused on. It's our wealth. There's no money to be made off healthy people in the "industry".
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They should call it wealthcare instead of healthcare.
 
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