Volkswagen57
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I would say no, nothing unique about my situation.
Testosterone replacement
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The hcg would be more stable than the enclo, and shouldn't mess with thyroid but may still affect estro.
Not sure a uro is the best way to go for what your trying to do. Some are really opposed to TRT or HRT. Your best bet is to do a LOT of research. It's not really possible for people on these forums to answer those type of questions, at least not with any true integrity.
I found one that specialized in men's sexual health. It's nice paying $8 a month for my test.
tendency
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that's the $1,000,000 question. If you have good insurance you could start with a PCP referral. Depending on your network this may be a urologist, it may be an endocrinologist.
The best ones, at least in my experience, don't take insurance and you need to pay out of pocket which will cost you $$$. They can be hard to find 🙂 You just need to do some leg work and call around, try to find referrals etc. Shouldn't be too hard to find if you live in a larger metropolitan area.
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TacoLifter420
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Has anyone ran anything other that test?
I tried some deca for a while and it seemed to help with some lingering elbow issues. But after a while it started increasing my BP and I stopped.
I can also get Anavar from my trt guy, I may try that as a sublingual pre-workout.
I tried some deca for a while and it seemed to help with some lingering elbow issues. But after a while it started increasing my BP and I stopped.
I can also get Anavar from my trt guy, I may try that as a sublingual pre-workout.
Calm Logic
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Orals are a newbie mistake. Avoid orals at any and all cost, due to drug-induced liver injury. Anavar (even sublingual) severely elevated my liver enzymes (481 for ALT, 158 for AST). My ALT was 10x the normal amount. And it took its time to eventually go back to normal. My enzymes were normal before. Other guys can get their lipids wrecked instead with Anavar.
Least-worst option is just adding more test, instead of hopping on primo, mast, etc. You can be high for estrogen in your blood results, but it doesn't matter if the estrogen:test ratio is between 1:10 and 1:20. Another option is HCG for a testosterone boost, but it may require low-dose AI sometimes or just cutting back. Low estrogen is worse for the heart/cardiovascular system (and tendons and joints) than high estrogen.
I avoid all of it now, even TRT.
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Anavar is pretty clean and dry, deca will blow you up like a parade float if you are prone to water retention, not to mention adding it to test will shoot your hematocrit up. Oxandrolone is way better for strength IMO, not so much for size, but as with all orals if you over do it, it can be hepatoxic. I like it! Never used it sublingual, never even knew it was a thing.
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Everyone reacts different to these things, I've added ox to MANY cycles over the years and never had any problems, maybe very slightly elevated enzymes at the end of a 8 or 10 wk cycle, but nothing like what you described.
Calm Logic
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This is not the place to post your pro-steroid content based on your bro science. Go to Meso, where you belong.
If you are going to be stupid, you should at least know the first names of everyone at Labcorp by the time you are done with your cycle (or your cruise of self-abuse).
Even if the few labs you do are relatively normal, come back with your heart imaging or shut up.
In the interest of harm reduction:
"Most people say test and Hgh are probably the healthiest since they are natural hormones that our body recognizes"
"If I could revisit 27 year old me I would tell him for that I wanted to do test is all I needed...Other compounds are best suited for competitors."
If you are going to be stupid, you should at least know the first names of everyone at Labcorp by the time you are done with your cycle (or your cruise of self-abuse).
Even if the few labs you do are relatively normal, come back with your heart imaging or shut up.
In the interest of harm reduction:
"Most people say test and Hgh are probably the healthiest since they are natural hormones that our body recognizes"
"If I could revisit 27 year old me I would tell him for that I wanted to do test is all I needed...Other compounds are best suited for competitors."
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Such1943
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I would slowly ramp up your test until your comfortable with your E2. Some like it lower, some higher. I feel great at the top of the range. Once you push that, you can get on some Primo/Mast/EQ to combat the E2 if you don't want to use an AI. But your going to have to get regular bloodwork to see how your E2 numbers change per mg of second compound. This is when the slippery slope happens. I am going to cruse 200/200 Test/Mast this summer. I took blood work today and will post my ridiculous cycle results next week when they come in. I'll try to keep on subject and not veer off into Meso territory.
Calm Logic
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Read the HAARLEM study. Read more studies until you get dry eyes. Or keep pretending and rationalizing you know what you are doing.
You guys are making the natty gym bros seem like geniuses.
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Such1943
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Oh, I know what I am doing is reckless. Just barely smart enough to know I need to dial it down. I found and will read the study.
TacoLifter420
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Interesting, I knew there could be some elevation. But that's a lot.
Not a newb on TRT though. I'm almost 2 years in.
TacoLifter420
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I feel pretty good on 175mg a week of test. That keeps me around 900 total and E around 40.
More just curious as to what others have done and for now plan to keep it in the TRT range. If that changes i'm a member over at Meso and will dive in deeper there if the topic is out of scope for this forum.
To add to this, I do blood work every 2-3 months and since starting TRT and Tirz all of my markers have moved into the normal range. The hormones help how I feel and loosing a shit ton of weight certainly helped my overall health. I'm not looking to be a body builder or get huge. I want to walk around at 12% body fat or so and that should have me at 185 to 190 pounds. I'm around 16% right now and still losing inches off my waist and about half a bond a week. I'm only in a 200-300 calorie deficit, so i've actually added some strength.
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tendency
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I'd pursue the naturopath option if I were you; I've had the best luck sorting out these types of issues with gifted NDs. Alot of blind spots in traditional western medicine.
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