Endotoxin Warning

Unless you understand the manufacturing and quality system of that manufacturer the color of the cap doesn't tell you anything in relation to these test results.
Odds that the entire batch is bad? Low. You could have orange cap T30 and be just fine. But my orange cap T30 can be bad (which it was). I get that.
 
I have 2 kits of it.... anyone already use it without issue?
Plenty of people have (though not me in my overstocked and diminutive state).
If you just run the numbers, you might be OK and only over the 5EU/kg/hr limit if you're over 7.5mg/pin or under 200lbs.

The issue is variation. If one vial is over 2000EU another could easily be 4000-6000EU. Once you have a manufacturing failure like this, it's hard to trust the finisher.
 
Im gonna use it. Ill just see what 5mg does initially instead of 15mg.
Just get a slow IV drip going and wake up reta-venated, haha. (Of course, an IV would be much worse for endos.)

As an anecdote, I was part of this test and started taking it before results came out. I experienced day long headaches every injection day. After switching to a different T30 (MIX) the intense headaches no longer occurred
Oh wow. How many mg were you taking?
 
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Always something... i always have a kit of the questionable stuff too. Just like the pepgate, i had 2 kits of the 1.6mg tirz that was supposed to be 15mg from asc.... also 2 kits from cantydes that did nothing. But i did get fire tirz from ssa....
 
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As an anecdote, I was part of this test and started taking it before results came out. I experienced day long headaches every injection day. After switching to a different T30 (MIX) the intense headaches no longer occurred
Interesting. This is the same response one of our female members had to it too.
 
I have one of these kits too, but I haven’t taken any yet. This was actually the first research kit I ever bought, so I’m still trying to understand what’s legit and what’s not.
Is it a dumb question to say “of course I shouldn’t take it”? I’m seeing some people suggest tiny doses or filtering, but I honestly don’t know if that actually makes it any safer. From what I understand, endotoxin contamination isn’t something you can just fix with a micron filter — it’s a biological toxin, not a particle you can strain out.
So I’m trying to get clarity before I decide what to do with this kit:
– Are people really saying small doses are “fine”?
– Does filtering actually do anything for endotoxin, or is that misinformation?
– And if the consensus is that the kit is basically unusable, do we have any recourse with the vendor for a credit or replacement? Or do people just end up throwing these out?
Not trying to stir anything up — just trying to figure out whether this is salvageable or if I should chalk it up as a loss.
 

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@AcadiaPeptides

Well the max endotoxin limit of 5EU per kg of bodyweight is an hourly maximum. So yes, theoretically if you were to take your dose over the course of a day or split dose, you could reduce your EU per dose to FDA-approved levels
 
Im gonna use it. Ill just see what 5mg does initially instead of 15mg.
lol...you are kind of like I am..."well I'll just roll this tiny amount first and see if I get ill"
Guess I'll break out the filters. I know it wont help with endotoxins, but it might make me feel a little better.
 
lol...you are kind of like I am..."well I'll just roll this tiny amount first and see if I get ill"
Guess I'll break out the filters. I know it wont help with endotoxins, but it might make me feel a little better.
Filters aren’t a bad idea; a vial that fails endotoxins is much more likely to have failed sterility as well
 
I purchased the jeep t30 in Oct. 25 and it is the same batch number. Luckily I have not used it yet.
Same here! I bought some right before CNY - it was my first purchase ever. Have not used it. Now what?
 

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A vendor here, had failed sterility. I used it and got sick (as documented here), went to the vendor and they just said "throw it all away", with no offer to refund or replace. I bought 6 kits of orange cap T30 from them and 2 from JEEP.

How did it affect you? Course i have 2 kits in the garage freezer...
Here’s the start of that discussion. It’s a good thread and I followed all of IshimaruKenta’s troubleshooting efforts and attempts to isolate and mitigate the issue.
Post in thread 'Filtering and contamination.'
https://glp1forum.com/threads/filtering-and-contamination.9556/post-116384
 

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