BAC water that’s reliable

cloratheshadow said:
I got the 31g 4mm easy touch! First time using easy touch so I’m excited. I’ve been getting irritation from my new syringes I got, ever since I switched.
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I just got a 100 each of 31g/8mm in .05 and 1ml and just used them once last week. I'm going to try the .05 tomorrow morning. I might still like the BD better, but only used them once. I'm sure it was me with all the hype I see about the Easy Touch.
 
Jerrey said:
Yup just ordered another batch from them. Stock piling peptides is bad enough it looks like we are gonna have to start piling injectors and bac water to now.
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I know. I have 8 30ml now, and another 10 on the way maybe. I have 400 syringes as well.I need to take a look at that, but not sure those will be an issue in the future. I need to do the math. 5 plus years of Reta now when my 2 GB come in, was just told of another for R30 for a crazy stupid price I just can't walk away from. Lowest I've ever seen. I'll buy 2 kits and resist more.
 
V6R3W said:
Medex usually has it but they just had a huge increase on a case of 25. No longer a good deal.
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It was $229 last week!!!
I went to few pharmacies in south Florida and every one told that I need a prescription for it and it’s in back order. Some off chain pharmacies were asking $450 for a case of 25!!!
 
Injection Shop was the cheapest I could find that seems to be legit.

Coupon: GLP1FORUM does not work on the BAC. Seems like they recently changed the maximum of BAC to 4. Makes it a bit trickier to hit the $50 minimum for free shipping.

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Such1943 said:
Injection Shop was the cheapest I could find that seems to be legit.

Coupon: GLP1FORUM does not work on the BAC. Seems like they recently changed the maximum of BAC to 4. Makes it a bit trickier to hit the $50 minimum for free shipping.

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Those pads got you free shipping.
 
Such1943 said:
Injection Shop was the cheapest I could find that seems to be legit.

Coupon: GLP1FORUM does not work on the BAC. Seems like they recently changed the maximum of BAC to 4. Makes it a bit trickier to hit the $50 minimum for free shipping.

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I placed 2 orders a day apart and should have added something cheap for free shipping!! WTH was I NOT thinking LOL
 
fatty33 said:
I placed 2 orders a day apart and should have added something cheap for free shipping!! WTH was I NOT thinking LOL
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You took one for the team, keeping prices low for the less fortunate who can only eat tacos on Tuesdays and Whoppers on Wednesdays. May the universe smile on you for all your days.
 
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blackkaiser said:
Just make your own bac water. 10 units of benzyl alcohol add to 10ml sterile water. Cosmetic grade benzyl would suffice. Done.
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Wouldn't it be safer just to use the sterile water? As long as you aren't going past 28 days this is standard practice in europe, mitigated by the use of a pen (no injecting air), and potentially improves peptide stability. There's the additional argument that while the sterile water may be depyrogenated, who knows in the case of cosmetic benzyl. Even better, use widely available saline solution on most peptides (potentially not reta or tesa).
 
Jack brown said:
Wouldn't it be safer just to use the sterile water? As long as you aren't going past 28 days this is standard practice in europe
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Where are you getting 28 days from for just sterile water?
 
Calm Logic said:
Where are you getting 28 days from for just sterile water?
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I believe Peter Magic from Jano said it in one of his YouTube videos. It's not easy to get Hospira in Europe, so he says sterile water is fine for 28 days (I hope I'm remembering that correctly). I've managed to get some Hospira so I've never actually tried it.
 
Jack brown said:
Wouldn't it be safer just to use the sterile water? As long as you aren't going past 28 days this is standard practice in europe, mitigated by the use of a pen (no injecting air), and potentially improves peptide stability. There's the additional argument that while the sterile water may be depyrogenated, who knows in the case of cosmetic benzyl. Even better, use widely available saline solution on most peptides (potentially not reta or tesa).
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Sterile and saline lack antibac properties, cosmetic grade benzyl already 99% pure, hard to beat that already. But to each their own.
 
Fostradamus said:
I believe Peter Magic from Jano said it in one of his YouTube videos. It's not easy to get Hospira in Europe, so he says sterile water is fine for 28 days (I hope I'm remembering that correctly). I've managed to get some Hospira so I've never actually tried it.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shgk3-u51Ys


jump out to minute 42:00 where he talks about sterile water vs Hospira.

I think we might be getting confused by "using". He's not recommending having a jug of sterile water that you draw from, off and on for 28 days, for various reconstitutions. He's saying open some sterile water, use it to reconstitute a peptide, and then use that vial for up to 28 days. Slight difference.

I looked into this a while ago, apparently in Europe they don't do multi-use water vials. Open a 10ml vial, draw 3ml of sterile water, and pitch the remainder. If I understand that correctly, from some posts from a European nurse.

I wouldn't be concerned either way. My risk profile. Either has got to be better than the Amazborg ditch water I was paying $$$ for, before I found this forum...
 
Calm Logic said:
Per order. So I did two orders today. Got both tracking numbers.

As said before, free shipping if you hit $50, which is easy to do.

One order (with promo code "glp1forum" for the non-Hospira items):

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I almost wish I got the 30g. The 31g are tough to draw with, and I don't mean crayons. I should get 4 more bottles.
 
Calm Logic said:
Per order. So I did two orders today. Got both tracking numbers.

As said before, free shipping if you hit $50, which is easy to do.

One order (with promo code "glp1forum" for the non-Hospira items):

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BNLFL said:
I almost wish I got the 30g. The 31g are tough to draw with, and I don't mean crayons. I should get 4 more bottles.
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I changed my mind. Just did 2-6mg pins on my wife and me with the Easy Touch 31g 8mm. Loaded just fine, and couldn't feel it just like the BD 31g. I just drew slow out of the vial, no issues.
 
BNLFL said:
Easy Touch 31g 8mm. Loaded just fine, and couldn't feel it just like the BD 31g. I just drew slow out of the vial, no issues.
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Real men use fill needles for subq anyway. Guaranteed feelz.

But seriously, I haven't tried 30G for subq yet. So will see how it goes compared to 31G. And I also got a 10-pack of 29G to try. But should be fine:

ZippityDooDah said:
Ironically I've been planning a "daily dose of wisdom" post on this very subject, but in the meantime here's my take starting with the outside diameter (OD) of the three most common insulin syringe size needle gauges in mm:

31G .2604mm
30G .3112mm
29G .3366mm

The difference between a 31G and 29G needle is .0762mm.

For reference, a human hair averages something like .16mm, so even completely skipping the 30G size we're literally talking about a thickness difference of around half that of a human hair. I'd be willing to wager that 99.99% of people are incapable of perceiving that difference in size when it comes to how a needle "feels" and it's entirely a function of psychology and not anything determined by the various corpuscles in our skin.

Honestly, everyone starting out should begin with a 29G syringe (I still recommend 8mm over 13mm, but that's another discussion for another day), and give themselves at least a half dozen injections before considering going with a higher gauge and even then only if there are compelling reasons like excessive bleeding or other contributing factors like skin conditions such as psoriasis, scleroderma, or related complications from diabetes.

So yeah, tell your friend 29G is the way to go.
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ZippityDooDah said:
IMHO, 31-gauge syringes are stupid. They take forever to draw and dose, and certain fluids can make that even more difficult, and they bend very easily. Somewhere a few weeks ago I posted the math showing the difference in size between needle gauges was less than the thickness of a human hair, so unless there are specific medical reasons for using a 31g needle (like certain skin conditions, bleeding disorders, etc.) 99.9% of people aren't going to be able to tell the difference so just use a 29g.
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petros600 said:
It was $229 last week!!!
I went to few pharmacies in south Florida and every one told that I need a prescription for it and it’s in back order. Some off chain pharmacies were asking $450 for a case of 25!!!
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229 to 450 is a huge jump what the hell?
 
Another vote for hospira bac, always. . It was around £17 for 30ml in the uk.
 
Calm Logic said:
Real men use fill needles for subq anyway. Guaranteed feelz.

But seriously, I haven't tried 30G for subq yet. So will see how it goes compared to 31G. And I also got a 10-pack of 29G to try. But should be fine:
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Let me know how those 29g work out. It was my wife squawking about the 30g needles, but they were just a pack of 30 I got from Amazon before I knew better or joined.
 
I agree with the people in this thread and other recent threads; BAC is by volume the largest part of what you're injecting into your test subject. Pay for the Hospira. It amortizes down to $1 a vial when reconstituting.

Stay a few months ahead of what you need, so during droughts you're not affected. Stuff I bought has a shelf life of more than a year. In 6 mo's I'll look for another couple of vials.

In an absolute pinch I wouldn't hesitate to use Sterile Water for Injection (as endorsed by Peter Magic at Janoshik).
 
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