Test, HGH, Var cycle

I’ve ran a similar cycle, just an FYI it’s worth adding in TUDCA and NAC to help with your AST and ALT. My AST hit 272 U/L and my ALT was 138 U/L from 20mg of Anavar, once I introduced TUDCA and NAC my levels returned back to normal, check your bloods thoroughly as everyone responds differently but for me it was very toxic.
 
Vegemite said:
I’ve ran a similar cycle, just an FYI it’s worth adding in TUDCA and NAC to help with your AST and ALT. My AST hit 272 U/L and my ALT was 138 U/L from 20mg of Anavar, once I introduced TUDCA and NAC my levels returned back to normal, check your bloods thoroughly as everyone responds differently but for me it was very toxic.
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I am taking both NAC and TUDCA along with milk thistle and glutathione.
 
I would avoid the anavar, do some thinking as to why that's an option as opposed to 70mg more test at least. Or consider an injectable dht derivative, for no liver stress. Nothing wrong with a bit of anabolics, but in your case I think the mindset of cycling is the issue, why not crank your test to 200mg and stay there for a few months. That's solidly enhanced and you'll notice better muscle growth and recovery relatively quickly. And will most likely be able to do it for as long as you like, which will help with consistent muscle growth and preventing post cycle muscle loss.
 
aicarisprettycool said:
I would avoid the anavar, do some thinking as to why that's an option as opposed to 70mg more test at least. Or consider an injectable dht derivative, for no liver stress. Nothing wrong with a bit of anabolics, but in your case I think the mindset of cycling is the issue, why not crank your test to 200mg and stay there for a few months. That's solidly enhanced and you'll notice better muscle growth and recovery relatively quickly. And will most likely be able to do it for as long as you like, which will help with consistent muscle growth and preventing post cycle muscle
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Well, I sure hope one can do 200mg as long as one wants….
 
Tbagger said:
I am taking both NAC and TUDCA along with milk thistle and glutathione.
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Plus you are on Reta. Last time I was doing a very mini-blast, my mouth dropped wide open when I saw how good my lipid profile and liver function was. Had to be the Reta and NAC because I always take tudca. Let us know when you test. Hope you enjoying the results.
 
aicarisprettycool said:
Almost certainly can, I know many people who've been on 200mg for over 30 years with no issues, depends on how you aromatize though.
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It's not just aromatize. Hemocratine becomes an issue as well. I did 200mg for over a year with no issues then my hemocratine went above 53% . Had to donate to get it down and drop dose to 160mg.
 
sfkid said:
It's not just aromatize. Hemocratine becomes an issue as well. I did 200mg for over a year with no issues then my hemocratine went above 53% . Had to donate to get it down and drop dose to 160mg.
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My hemocrit is fine at 200mg. Though I do donate blood occasionally. I barely do mini blasts any more. But I did. I would actually drop to like 150 mg after a few months to more quickly get to baseline. But then I could run 200mg and be good. I can actually run like 300-400mg without an AI. It actually deca that fucks uo my e2 and prolactin seemingly (though studies say it is actually something about the test and deca synergy, not the deca alone).
 
Gt3294a said:
My hemocrit is fine at 200mg. Though I do donate blood occasionally. I barely do mini blasts any more. But I did. I would actually drop to like 150 mg after a few months to more quickly get to baseline. But then I could run 200mg and be good. I can actually run like 300-400mg without an AI. It actually deca that fucks uo my e2 and prolactin seemingly (though studies say it is actually something about the test and deca synergy, not the deca alone).
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Im jealous. I'm gonna run 140mg for 10 weeks and see where my tests show. Id love to run a 400mg blast for 8 weeks...
 
Gt3294a said:
My hemocrit is fine at 200mg. Though I do donate blood occasionally. I barely do mini blasts any more. But I did. I would actually drop to like 150 mg after a few months to more quickly get to baseline. But then I could run 200mg and be good. I can actually run like 300-400mg without an AI. It actually deca that fucks uo my e2 and prolactin seemingly (though studies say it is actually something about the test and deca synergy, not the deca alone).
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Though I will add, when I got to early 40s, I dropped about 20 pounds of muscle. One can argue that running 200 mg of test can stress the heart. I concluded that dropping the extra muscle would be a good balance. Not saying it is the best thing. But for me, I also rarely drink now, finally quit nicotine, and rarely drink much caffeine (usually use parax now instead). So it’s just a balance and personal choice.
 
sfkid said:
Im jealous. I'm gonna run 140mg for 10 weeks and see where my tests show. Id love to run a 400mg blast for 8 weeks...
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Yeah, it’s just a balance. As I got older, I really concluded if run anything, something like 400-500mg of test or like 300-400 of test and 200mg of deca (or sub in some prim for test) are pretty safe on balance and not that hard on the body. But nobody attack me - it’s a personal choice, balance, and eyes wide open thing.
 
Gt3294a said:
Yeah, it’s just a balance. As I got older, I really concluded if run anything, something like 400-500mg of test or like 300-400 of test and 200mg of deca (or sub in some prim for test) are pretty safe on balance and not that hard on the body. But nobody attack me - it’s a personal choice, balance, and eyes wide open thing.
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I have primo and mast on hand but after my latest labs I need to get my hemo under control more before starting the cycle.
 
Tbagger said:
After losing just over 100lbs last year, my goal this year is to get shredded. I'm currently sitting at 205lbs at approx. 17% bodyfat. I started TRT about 2 months ago and am currently taking 150mg/wk. I am also switching from Tesa/Ipa to HGH when my shipment comes in next month. I went in to my doc to get some bloodwork today and we started talking about my goals and optimization which lead to him writing me a script for a 6 week cycle of 10mg Anavar. So my current plan is to run a 6 week cycle of 6mg/wk Reta (my maintenance dose), 250mg/wk test-c, 4iu/day HGH, and 10mg/day Anavar. Then return to my normal cruise of 150mg test and maybe stay with 1-2iu HGH. This will be my first foray into AAS and was wondering if you guys had any opinions? I'm 42m and my labs are pretty spot on. I was going to ask in MESO but they are ruthless there and will pretty much just tell me I'm wasting my money on a weak cycle, push for increasing everything, and to throw tren in the mix lol.
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Are people getting trt from prescription? I usually don’t see that available from vendors.
 
Donstofikus said:
Are people getting trt from prescription? I usually don’t see that available from vendors.
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None of the vendors here have it but you can get everything and more from other forum vendors. TRT prescribed , not from your GP, is usually about 100 bucks a month. If you can get your doctor to prescribe its like 30 bucks for 3 months supply.
 
sfkid said:
None of the vendors here have it but you can get everything and more from other forum vendors. TRT prescribed , not from your GP, is usually about 100 bucks a month. If you can get your doctor to prescribe its like 30 bucks for 3 months supply.
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It sounds pretty affordable. Are you getting your blood tested as well?
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I have been starving the last week even at 8mg Reta.
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8mg of Reta is pretty high. Have you seen any uptick in your resting heart rate? Is your sleep impacted? I would think your body is burning through some calories, right?
 
sfkid said:
I have primo and mast on hand but after my latest labs I need to get my hemo under control more before starting the cycle.
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Assume you take callas (if not, look into why might good with high hemocrit). I love prim but always been hard my hair. I still have a shit ton from before the shortage. If you didn’t get it before the shortage - I hope it is prim and not equipose!
 
Donstofikus said:
It sounds pretty affordable. Are you getting your blood tested as well?

8mg of Reta is pretty high. Have you seen any uptick in your resting heart rate? Is your sleep impacted? I would think your body is burning through some calories, right?
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Dude, I wouldn’t be able to sleep for 3 weeks. That would be like a hit of meth for me….
 
Gt3294a said:
Assume you take callas (if not, look into why might good with high hemocrit). I love prim but always been hard my hair. I still have a shit ton from before the shortage. If you didn’t get it before the shortage - I hope it is prim and not equipose!
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Just got it recently from reputable vendor on meso forum. My head is shaved so I could give 2 💩 about hair.
 
sfkid said:
Just got it recently from reputable vendor on meso forum. My head is shaved so I could give 2 💩
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That makes it easy! Enjoy the blast once you start. I love the way that prim makes the muscles pop. It seemingly has a weird way to make those shoulder pop for sure.
 
Donstofikus said:
Are people getting trt from prescription? I usually don’t see that available from vendors.
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My Urologist does mine, it only cost me $5 a month. But if I want to play with other compounds, I have to go UGL.
 
Donstofikus said:
8mg of Reta is pretty high. Have you seen any uptick in your resting heart rate? Is your sleep impacted? I would think your body is burning through some calories, right?
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I have been titrating up for some time now. I don’t want to go any higher so I’m just dealing with the slow return of hunger signaling. Heart rate went up by around 10bpm when I first started out at 500mcg and has pretty much just stayed there since. Sleep is fine and I think burn through calories from my weight training and cardio more than from the Reta.
 
aicarisprettycool said:
I would avoid the anavar, do some thinking as to why that's an option as opposed to 70mg more test at least. Or consider an injectable dht derivative, for no liver stress. Nothing wrong with a bit of anabolics, but in your case I think the mindset of cycling is the issue, why not crank your test to 200mg and stay there for a few months. That's solidly enhanced and you'll notice better muscle growth and recovery relatively quickly. And will most likely be able to do it for as long as you like, which will help with consistent muscle growth and preventing post cycle muscle loss.
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Well then I would recommend avoiding it lol. Did you miss the part where I bumped my test to 250mg? And I’m not taking Anavar for massive gains, I’m currently on recomp and getting down to <13% bf. When I reach that goal I have already been talking with my Dr and might do a cycle of NPP or Deca depending on how my labs are looking.
 
Has anyone in California gotten oxandrolone (Anavar) from Empower, Strive, or another compounding pharmacy?

As crazy as it sounds, I'm asking on behalf of a small burn unit in California. Their pharmacy has not been able or willing to source oxandrolone for a year or so. So the patients are left to source it for themselves (legally), unless they go with the flow and take testosterone instead.

Thanks to the FDA or other powers that be, the burn units have been transitioning to testosterone, which is not ideal for female patients. Anavar is lower on the scale for virilization, and testosterone is more likely to cause scarring.

Update: Best best seems to be Strive Pharmacy since they are in-state, even though they require one of their providers to prescribe.
 
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Calm Logic said:
Has anyone in California gotten oxandrolone (Anavar) from Empower, Strive, or another compounding pharmacy?

As crazy as it sounds, I'm asking on behalf of a small burn unit in California. Their pharmacy has not been able or willing to source oxandrolone for a year or so. So the patients are left to source it for themselves (legally), unless they go with the flow and take testosterone instead.

Thanks to the FDA or other powers that be, the burn units have been transitioning to testosterone, which is not ideal for female patients. Anavar is lower on the scale for virilization.
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I get mine prescribed and it comes from a compounding pharmacy called Revive Rx. I believe they are based out of Huston TX.
 
Tbagger said:
After losing just over 100lbs last year, my goal this year is to get shredded. I'm currently sitting at 205lbs at approx. 17% bodyfat. I started TRT about 2 months ago and am currently taking 150mg/wk. I am also switching from Tesa/Ipa to HGH when my shipment comes in next month. I went in to my doc to get some bloodwork today and we started talking about my goals and optimization which lead to him writing me a script for a 6 week cycle of 10mg Anavar. So my current plan is to run a 6 week cycle of 6mg/wk Reta (my maintenance dose), 250mg/wk test-c, 4iu/day HGH, and 10mg/day Anavar. Then return to my normal cruise of 150mg test and maybe stay with 1-2iu HGH. This will be my first foray into AAS and was wondering if you guys had any opinions? I'm 42m and my labs are pretty spot on. I was going to ask in MESO but they are ruthless there and will pretty much just tell me I'm wasting my money on a weak cycle, push for increasing everything, and to throw tren in the mix lol.
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I used to lurk in Meso. People there are so full of hubris. Dont even mention bro-politics.

God if I can find a vendor that doesnt take crypto ..
 
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