Eloralintide is hard to test.

[SoCalGirl]

Interesting article from Krysira on why Elora is tough to test. So, besides the mass testing, the ring formation needs to be verified, which is where the testing gets difficult. It's tough to test structure:

"The ongoing Elora verification debate is a good example of this. Chemists, testing labs and potential users are still debating what standard testing can prove, where the limits are, and whether structural verification needs to go beyond routine “mass and purity.”

Evidently, I can NOT post the link, but to read the article, search:

The Elora Testing Debate Continues​

Why the Structural Verification argument is becoming more complicated​

 

[Smiter]

Interesting article from Krysira on why Elora is tough to test. So, besides the mass testing, the ring formation needs to be verified, which is where the testing gets difficult. It's tough to test structure:

"The ongoing Elora verification debate is a good example of this. Chemists, testing labs and potential users are still debating what standard testing can prove, where the limits are, and whether structural verification needs to go beyond routine “mass and purity.”

Evidently, I can NOT post the link, but to read the article, search:

The Elora Testing Debate Continues​

Why the Structural Verification argument is becoming more complicated​

I agree, it is hard to test. Just wait till I get my hands on it.

 

[SoCalGirl]

I agree, it is hard to test. Just wait till I get my hands on it.

Seriously, I feel the exact same way. 🤣

 

[Smiter]

Seriously, I feel the exact same way. 🤣

Right?? Availability is such a hindrance to quality testing.

 

[CNCCurrency]

I will be on the sideling for sometime on this one. I will use the wait and see approach.

 

[Estarossa19]

I'm still buying a kit and pinning it though.

 

[New2ton]

I decided to buy a half kit. I'll decide in a few months if I want to go ahead and pin it.

 

[sheilarae74]

I REALLY want it as soon as it's out but I need to wait until a few people have trialed it and see if the gray version is really worth the hype. I also want to make sure that no one gets sick or worse before I spend all that money.

 

[Calm Logic]

I am in no rush either. I have not graduated above 300 mcg of cagri.

But a lingering hope with the amylin analogues is that they help reset the brain's set point for weight.

 

[randompersonrandom]

I will be on the sideling for sometime on this one. I will use the wait and see approach.

Just follow @Mr. Blonde . Eventually he'll get his hands on some, scream YOLO, eat four, and report back. If he lives, just buy from whoever he bought from.

 

[BlueDog55]

I have not heard of Elora what's it for?

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

I’m a b it confused as to eloras function. Is it just an appetite suppressant like cagri?

 

[CNCCurrency]

I have not heard of Elora what's it for?

Advanced version of cagri so I hear

 

[Calm Logic]

I’m a b it confused as to eloras function. Is it just an appetite suppressant like cagri?

Cagri 2.0 since 12x more selective for amylin. Twice the efficacy for weight loss with less side effects.

But starting dose for elora is 3 mg (vs. 250 or 300 mcg for cagri). Max dose of elora is 9 mg.

For 300 mcg of cagri vs. 1 mg of elora, sides may be comparable, with cost 5.6x higher and weight loss 1.6x higher with elora.

 

[Smiter]

with cost 5.6x higher

Thank you, that's all I needed to hear. Hmmm.. I guess I'll have to open my Tor browser again... m sure there are some jobs with wives looking to off their significant others.

 

[sheilarae74]

Just follow @Mr. Blonde . Eventually he'll get his hands on some, scream YOLO, eat four, and report back. If he lives, just buy from whoever he bought from.

That's what I'm waiting for. 🤣

 

[Smiter]

That's what I'm waiting for. 🤣

Ok then, I too will wait for Blondie to open the grave named unknown next to one named Archie Stanton, dig the treasured Elora out and we can have a share.

 

[Grogu]

I have not heard of Elora what's it for?

Elora is the ultimate peptide. It will make you tan, resolve joint issues, and make your hair thicker all the while letting you sleep like a baby for 12 hours a day.

Just kidding, what @Calm Logic said.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Just follow @Mr. Blonde . Eventually he'll get his hands on some, scream YOLO, eat four, and report back. If he lives, just buy from whoever he bought from.

Do we know each other!?

 

[chewonmysac]

My prediction is that by July this year, at least 10 of us will attempt to implement this into our current stack.

Eli L***y plans to advance eloralintide into Phase 3 clinical trials by the end of 2025. The company is also exploring its use in combination with other therapies, such as tirzepatide, to enhance weight management strategies for individuals with obesity

Will grab a few singles for the test run on top of Tirz. Start super low, then adjust accordingly. Anything that ends with Tide, I am here for it. RollTide!

 

[TazaTaza]

L8lly is funny I know they were excited to discover that it's hard asf to bootleg Elora.

I read Elora has a "methylene thioacetal bridge" bc it's more stable than its di-SS bonds?

I think it's hilarious they're framing it as a testing issue vs an engineering issue. There are established chem techniques to verify ring structure/bridge, the thing is it's expensive + multi-step. Ppl could be taking bunk Elora that is unstable and has a super short half-life defeating the purpose of the pep.

I think it's interesting ppl are this excited over an appetite suppressant?

 

[woundcarping]

...I think it's interesting ppl are this excited over an appetite suppressant?

Say you don't have appetite problems without saying you don't have weight problems. Bonus points for doing it on a forum named after the most prevalent "appetite suppressant" ever.

 

[Chili777]

Say you don't have appetite problems without saying you don't have weight problems. Bonus points for doing it on a forum named after the most prevalent "appetite suppressant" ever.

But that's all true. If the ring isn't there, it is just a bunch of aminos with unknown effects. Do you think the average vendor is going to care if it is or not? They're going to say, take it, it will work anyway. This creates another testing issue and the debate about how to properly do that isn't over. There are still a lot of questions that are unanswered.

 

[woundcarping]

But that's all true. If the ring isn't there, it is just a bunch of aminos with unknown effects. Do you think the average vendor is going to care if it is or not? They're going to say, take it, it will work anyway. This creates another testing issue and the debate about how to properly do that isn't over. There are still a lot of questions that are unanswered.

Did you see what I quoted?

 

[Chili777]

Did you see what I quoted?

Yeah. It could have been said differently, but I took the comment as a whole. I think Elora is for that percentage that haven't responded to GLPs like most people do. I don't know how large that population is.

 

[birdwhacker]

Yeah. It could have been said differently, but I took the comment as a whole. I think Elora is for that percentage that haven't responded to GLPs like most people do. I don't know how large that population is.

I've responded very well to GLPs. I've never had any illusions that I'm going to be able to take one and achieve my wildest dreams. I have no desire nor intention to run 12+mg of reta for an extended amount of time. I'd much rather add in something else. It's very foolish to put all of your eggs in one pharmacokinetic basket.

 

[ambot88]

I think it's interesting ppl are this excited over an appetite suppressant?

Where do you think you are?

 

[Chili777]

I've responded very well to GLPs. I've never had any illusions that I'm going to be able to take one and achieve my wildest dreams. I have no desire nor intention to run 12+mg of reta for an extended amount of time. I'd much rather add in something else. It's very foolish to put all of your eggs in one pharmacokinetic basket.

Reta worked for me as designed. I don't need anything else and it gives me complete appetite suppression, so maybe I'm lucky. I worked my way up to 12 mg, did that for a month and reached my goal. I'm now at 10 mg and on the way down. I don't know where I'll end up for maintenance, but it does everything I want.

 

[birdwhacker]

Reta worked for me as designed. I don't need anything else and it gives me complete appetite suppression, so maybe I'm lucky. I worked my way up to 12 mg, did that for a month and reached my goal. I'm now at 10 mg and on the way down. I don't know where I'll end up for maintenance, but it does everything I want.

Awesome! If that works for me, then great. If I need more compounds, also great. I'm just glad that solutions exist now. 4 months ago I was convinced I was going to have to kill myself eventually. That good health wasn't achievable. Now, there are so many paths forward that we get to bicker about them.

That's a big win.

 

[Chili777]

Awesome! If that works for me, then great. If I need more compounds, also great. I'm just glad that solutions exist now. 4 months ago I was convinced I was going to have to kill myself eventually. That good health wasn't achievable. Now, there are so many paths forward that we get to bicker about them.

That's a big win.

I was ready to give up after a year of Sema and zero results, except being poorer. I like all my new options now. Also, I'm not a purist as I did get some Cagri in case my titration down caused a spike in my appetite. Kind of a "In case of emergency, break glass" back up. I hope not to use it, but we'll see. I'm not going back.