woundcarping
GLP-1 Specialist
The confidence of that statement is bewildering.
Eloralintide is hard to test.
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The confidence of that statement is bewildering.
birdwhacker
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I guess I'll have to make peace with that.
Hey whacker, long time. How you been?
birdwhacker
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Pretty good, Smiter. You? Start any new fun ones? Did you order that enclo?
I'm enjoying HCG. Went from cranking my hog every 2-4 days to twice a day complete with morning wood.
Yup..thanks...ordered from kimera and swiss chems.
What a chore, huh? Well, at least you get the extra bouts of post-nut clarity so that's a plus.
Na...well, not any new consumable, but did start a new exercise which has now become my absolute fav of all time. I'm gonna dream about this shtick...and I dont even dream anymore.
birdwhacker
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Nah I don't get any benefits from it. Nasty habit, wish I could put it down.
Well? Don't leave me hanging.
Dream about this shtick any day yt boy 😉
Oh, I so get that...beating the salami for that PNC is addictive AF.
I invented it. I have named it the 'Androck curl' after my pseudonym as a writer. It's inspired from the Zottman curl, Poliquin curl, and my own experiences. It trains the brachialis, brachioradialis, the pronator, supinator, but I will have to see how to show it to you. The feeling I got after the workout was insane. I foresee popeye getting envious in the future... I hope to get peak Arsen Liliev forearms
TazaTaza
GLP-1 Apprentice
? I want to praise Tz. Mind you Elora is NOT a GLP. Tz is right there. It's mind boggling to me. Y'all keep chasing the something stronger when a GLP already exists w/very high effectiveness and is easily bootleg for this grey space. Everywhere I go everyone is obsessed with suppressing their appetite into an ED.
I'm on a GLP forum which is why I'm confused why are y'all excited over an experimental appetite suppressant that's NOT easily bootleg/testable when Tz is right there w/a lower risk profile and is easily bootleg + testable.
EDIT: My og comment had "T*rz solo will be supreme after the dust settles" but I deleted after weird filtering bc I'm a newbie. My bad y'all but yeah I think Tz solo will probably be the answer in the long-run
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I perceive I need to learn Miamese, but I shall strive to guess the thrust of your verbiage. Why are we excited about the next best thing??? Well, it's the quintessential biohacker's identity. In fact, I would assume that it's precisely that mindset that brought many of us to GLP-1's in the first place when a lot of the world is set against it.
That being the case, it would seem out of character to dispose of that trait, especially knowing that revolutionary med-tech is blazing towards us at warp speed.
TazaTaza
GLP-1 Apprentice
There is Cag and there is Tz. If you want to go old-school, we even got caffeine/various stimulants.
Everyone keeps dancing around the elephant in the room. The whole post/convo thread is about how Elora is hard to test/verify. Of course ppl want the next best thing that's why ppl buy new iPhones every year. New shiny toy.
But why get a new shiny toy that's defective and/or bunk? I don't get the excitement when there are better, more feasible alternatives at the moment.
The next best thing is not grey source bunk Elora lmao. Not at the moment.
Hey... don't add me to the bleaters who use Apple products. The day I did my MBA in 2010, I swore to never become a patron of Apple. I am a firm believer in "An Apple any day keeps wisdom away".
Never do it. But why did you assume Elora is defective? Everything I have heard reeks of the opposite. Now, bunk I grant you, is an ongoing source of panic for me.
But are there better ones? Feasible, for sure.
Which one would you place in that spot? I was looking at this Alex Tatem video. He puts retatrutide in that level, predicting that it will be a trillion-dollar item.
TazaTaza
GLP-1 Apprentice
The next best thing is allegedly R currently (I still rank Tz above it), and whatever next gen GLP they're trying to develop. I don't think an appetite suppressant will ever take the top spot over any GLP including Tz, R and even Sema.
The Elora in the current grey market is not reliable. If it doesn't have the ring chemistry down or the methylene bridge instead of the di-SS bond it doesn't have a long half-life which was the point of EL developing Elora. It's a more complex pep in structure
But to be pedantic, the next best thing to y'all is L*lly's Elora not the Elora from grey. If they can't test for it or verify it, then what are you really taking? At that point it's placebo/filler water.
Chapeau! I agree.
gusterbuster
GLP-1 Apprentice
Ok I'm an idiot as far as this ring chemistry. But if the only downside of Grey messing that up, is a shorter half life, many are more than happy to inject more often.
TazaTaza
GLP-1 Apprentice
The best case scenario is a shorter half life like for example some ppl can get a batch where it's half of the properly folded Elora and other have is misfolded but inactive (hopefully harmless) Elora.
Other things can go wrong like what if the misfolded Elora is a variant that triggers an immune response? Not all misfolded proteins are benign. A person can develop an immune response, and ironically if they ever try the legit Elora they basically made themselves allergic to Elora and can't take it.
We are focused on the ring, but Elora has other weird things going on with its structure that can be very difficult for chem synthesis. I think in the meantime sources that promise they have Elora is doing so to upcharge a weird blend of Cag+GLP of their choice to mimic suppression which is still dangerous. I would steer clear until the dust settles on proper testing/verification methods.
I'm not well versed in chem synthesis of Elora so I'm sure there is a long list of other things not mentioned that can go wrong or cause adverse reactions.
sheilarae74
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I personally will always be chasing the easiest way to lose the most weight.
SoCalGirl
GLP-1 Novice
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Appetite suppression. Resetting appetite. And weight loss.
You tell 'em, Sis. Some mortals scorn Easy, when we're just connoisseurs of scintillating time management.
I forgot to ask this yesterday. How would people suppress their hunger into an erectile dysfunction? What sorcery is that, and why would anybody want it? Gluttony harder to deal with than Lust-Fail?
Masil
Recently Joined
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Uther did share a Janoshik test for his current batch. (In the Telegram Group) shall I not believe Janoshik?
I'm sure the Janoshik test is legit as far as the usual tests go. The issue with Eloralintide is the unusual structure which might require additional tests to verify its correctness.
My kit from Uther arrives today, so we'll see how it goes...
Masil
Recently Joined
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looking forward to your experience, are you planning to test / filter etc? - mine will arrive in a few days
I originally was super interested in elora when I started. I had to loose >30% BW and thought it was my ticket there combined with tirza. However, a year into weight loss, Im using 15mg tirza with some survo and im basically virtually at target. Now just trimming some more for vanity really.
So no, I dont see the need for elora any longer and its cost prohibitive anyways as tirz and survo are so much cheaper.
Also, while survo/reta offer additional benefit by stimulating lipolysis and removing extra visceral fat, elora is just another appetite suppression tool which will probably synergize with GLP-1s such that you get to target faster with extra potential for total weight loss.
However, I think most people with ~30% BW to loose can get there on max dose of reta or tirz.
Not just another appetite suppression tool. Weight loss rivals tirzepatide, half life is closer to 2 weeks, and seems to be better tolerated. You can actually use this one by itself, unlike cagrilintide
Agreed. Much more efficacious than cagri for sure. Its not even a close match. I guess my point was strictly personal in terms of my weight loss goals. I suspect elora will find a nice niche market in people that can’t tolerate GLP1s or have a history of thyroid cancer in their family. In either case elora will, like you said, give tirz-like results without the downsides of GLP1s.
Yes, please let us know how it goes.
Peter @ Janoshik says he can do the special test to confirm the structure and it costs $1,800.
The "regular" mass/purity COA that was posted is just that, mass/purity, no confirmation that the ring was properly formed and in the correct location.
Ted R
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Someone on another server got the following price from Janoshik:
For 2x m&p, structure, endo, lcms
2x M&P 1200
Structure 1800
Endo & LC/MS 270
Total = 3270
Probably the same or similar server. The quote I saw was the same amount and same tests.
That’s what happened to me, I did add in Cagri for that reason.
