Switched vendors and weight loss seems to have sped up?

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Was using nexaph- switched to pgb and I’m losing at probably twice the rate. I’ve been genuinely surprised on weigh in days. It’s not that the nexa supply wasn’t working, it just wasn’t working like this.

Is there any logical explanation to this or am I just imagining things?

Also- I’m using Reta, forgot to mention that. Same dosage, and I am aware of overfill etc.
 
Interesting. I have seen this before on Reddit about people switching vendors, and it may be specific to the person's biology reacting differently as some people do better and some worse with the same vendor.

How long were you on the Nexaph and how long now on PGB? In any case, let me know next week/s if the effect still going🙂
 
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Calm Logic said:
Interesting. I have seen this before on Reddit about people switching vendors, and it may be specific to the person's biology reacting differently as some people do better and some worse with the same vendor.

How long were you on the Nexaph and how long now on PGB? In any case, let me know next week/s if the effect still going🙂
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I went through the entire dose escalation with nexa I think I started late October? Switched to pgb about 4 weeks ago.
 
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The prices are per kit. Shipping is $40 for orders below $200. Otherwise, $20 for shipping, or free shipping if $300+.

Right now, a kit of reta 12 mg is $200 plus $20 shipping, but due to overfill it is more like 13.8 mg. At Nexaph, it seems the price would be $290 (if it was in stock).

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I don't see much mention of PGB here. Is it worthy of the membership? I haven't looked into it much. How do you sign up?
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Yankeegurl_LQJ said:
While it's true that PGB charges more, they also test everything and also have members testing as well. Orders are coming from a US warehouse so no worrying about customs seizing packages. Most orders arrive in less than a wk after ordering if its something they have in stock. They also do pre buys for stuff not in stock. Plus they include free bac water.
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Does anything apply here, OP?

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Nexaph Reta 12 mg - neon green cap under- performing 89-92 % re-testing

To whoever comes across these vials ....
A group of us who bought Reta 12 mg / neon green caps, purple crimp in October 2024 decided to re-test the batch as it was originally under - performing at 97 - 98 % purity. With the help of Sabrina F, who has lab access we sent in a bunch of vials and got the results today. I am posting Sabrina's comments with her test results here. I am sincerely hoping that none of us in this community will be tempted to use this product and I am also hoping that , by making the test results public that we will spot it right away if someone should try to sell...
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Here's what happened... Your PGB vials have overfill. Not a bad thing, as long as you measure accordingly. Where the Nex vial was at 10, your PGB vial may be at 12. Not measured accurately, you just gave yourself a 20% titration.

Take a look at corresponding test results for both batches, and see if the average weight reflects this. I'm sure it will.
 
Calm Logic said:
Nexaph always overfills too, with a similar amount possibly in this case:

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Granted, but I still suggest that the product itself is not the factor. I think the easiest answer is that one (PGB) had more. The tests, although not absolute, could shed more light.

Pickle, your task is to reconcile both batches with corresponding tests and report back.
 
Interesting.

And given that PGB is cheaper per gram for Reta (even when Nexaph has prebuys), it seems PGB is the way to go 🙂
 
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Calm Logic said:
Does anything apply here, OP?

morganite

Nexaph Reta 12 mg - neon green cap under- performing 89-92 % re-testing

To whoever comes across these vials ....
A group of us who bought Reta 12 mg / neon green caps, purple crimp in October 2024 decided to re-test the batch as it was originally under - performing at 97 - 98 % purity. With the help of Sabrina F, who has lab access we sent in a bunch of vials and got the results today. I am posting Sabrina's comments with her test results here. I am sincerely hoping that none of us in this community will be tempted to use this product and I am also hoping that , by making the test results public that we will spot it right away if someone should try to sell...
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I didn’t get that batch, but the batch was also replaced by Cain.
 
Peloma said:
Here's what happened... Your PGB vials have overfill. Not a bad thing, as long as you measure accordingly. Where the Nex vial was at 10, your PGB vial may be at 12. Not measured accurately, you just gave yourself a 20% titration.

Take a look at corresponding test results for both batches, and see if the average weight reflects this. I'm sure it will.
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Both vendor supplied tests came back at around 13.8 mg for both vendors- which is kind of an odd coincidence really.
 
Peloma said:
Granted, but I still suggest that the product itself is not the factor. I think the easiest answer is that one (PGB) had more. The tests, although not absolute, could shed more light.

Pickle, your task is to reconcile both batches with corresponding tests and report back.
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Uhhh. I probably won’t be paying for all that. At the end of the day, I think I like dealing with pgb so far and will just give them a go for a while. The whole crypto thing isn’t that hard to do, and I have a big stock so I don’t need the convenience of using a credit card with cain anymore.
 
IndividualPickle said:
Uhhh. I probably won’t be paying for all that. At the end of the day, I think I like dealing with pgb so far and will just give them a go for a while. The whole crypto thing isn’t that hard to do, and I have a big stock so I don’t need the convenience of using a credit card with cain anymore.
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The historical tests are in their links. Discord, telegram, etc...
Research is work! 😆
 
Sources do matter. I stalled in the fall/winter when I started using some reta I got from a group buy. That supposedly tested well. Once I switched to another vendor, I started losing again.
 
dogmom said:
Sources do matter. I stalled in the fall/winter when I started using some reta I got from a group buy. That supposedly tested well. Once I switched to another vendor, I started losing again.
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Hmm, i was losing on XCE and not losing at all on amo. I figured I just plateaued.
 
I had a friend who was doing this before me. He was getting 10 (doesn’t matter of what, conceptually) and was really receiving 9.8. Ordered from someone else, got 12. He was reconstituting both the same way and then using the same number of units, so he was taking more without realizing it (~20%) and thought the stuff was “better” when it was just math on his end.

Also, it helped me not do the same thing. Look at the coa. Assuming it’s accurate, measure off of that. Or don’t, and just know. I like to get even pulls, so I’ll change my bac amount to then make things easier for me later and evening out one vial source from another.

(a wordy answer for “overfilled’)
 
dogmom said:
Sources do matter. I stalled in the fall/winter when I started using some reta I got from a group buy. That supposedly tested well. Once I switched to another vendor, I started losing again.
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Right. It's about precursor volume.
 
But just for a moment, could there actually be anything to the idea of 'better' peptide? Hard to imagine but I am wondering if there is anything in formulation which could create a discrepancy - I am really reaching here but filler (?), 'freshness' (?). Just asking as it seems there is more than one person I have come across who is benefitting more from one vendor than another all else being (more or less) equal.
 
Captconundrum said:
But just for a moment, could there actually be anything to the idea of 'better' peptide? Hard to imagine but I am wondering if there is anything in formulation which could create a discrepancy - I am really reaching here but filler (?), 'freshness' (?). Just asking as it seems there is more than one person I have come across who is benefitting more from one vendor than another all else being (more or less) equal.
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It's possible the fillers can have an impact. So, yes, maybe.
 
Calm Logic said:
But did you try raising the dose to see if that would compensate?
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goodness, I can't remember now. lol I've backed off so long ago figuring I'd just maintain where I'm at cause I had stopped losing. I think I was at 15 mg and never tried to go higher with the Amo supply. I turned 50 this week and forgetting all sorts of crap already!
 
kroert99 said:
goodness, I can't remember now. lol I've backed off so long ago figuring I'd just maintain where I'm at cause I had stopped losing. I think I was at 15 mg and never tried to go higher with the Amo supply. I turned 50 this week and forgetting all sorts of crap already!
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Stop with the I turned 50 crap... I'm knocking on that door. 😆
 
i didnt really have weight loss sped up, but when i changed vendors after 8 months on tirz, the first shot was crazy. it was like first time tirz. not side effects wise, but i had such an intense feeling of being full when i hadnt eaten at all-- that i hadnt felt since the first few weeks on tirz.
 
Regarding fillers:

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That “stuff” is called excipients: fillers, solubilizers, and other additives that go along with the dosage form. Some of the excipients help the peptide dissolve, some of them help the manufacturer control the amount loaded into the vials, and some of it is there just to make users feel like they are buying something. Now that users have been conditioned to expect the amount of powder on the left, they would feel like they got scammed with the amount of powder on the right.
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Calm Logic said:
Register here:
Put in name, address, and phone here: https://pgbmemberpass.com/my-account/edit-address/

and then you can shop here:

The prices are per kit. Shipping is $40 for orders below $200. Otherwise, $20 for shipping, or free shipping if $300+.

Right now, a kit of reta 12 mg is $200 plus $20 shipping, but due to overfill it is more like 13.8 mg. At Nexaph, it seems the price would be $290 (if it was in stock).

More info:

PGB Membership

I don't see much mention of PGB here. Is it worthy of the membership? I haven't looked into it much. How do you sign up?
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I dont see reta on there. Is it the R24?
 
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