Imagine a new disease they can’t figure out the source caused by a Frankenstein peptide….. we had eosinophilia myalgia syndrome years ago probably from tainted tryptophan (debating that still) from a Japanese company taking shortcuts……..
US pharmaceutical companies are heavily invested in China. They are going to have a degree of separation from the research subjects. They can always claim ignorance. But of course it is probably true they don’t care enough to know…. Only care about outcomes.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13765189/amp/Pharma-Chinese-Communist-Party-Army-drug-testing-Uygurs.html
They were congressional hearings last August about this . There is a link in the story for the letter written by the US
Yes not found of the Chinese concentration camps but China makes 100 year plans. One party rule- dictatorship advantage. The Chinese EV capability is amazing…. Have seen the BYD cars and they are very nice … Now China is focusing on pharmaceutical development … and lots of US pharmaceutical...
Well they developed a process to make tirz in kg lots with a purity over 99 percent and low risk of contamination…… they are following the path of Japan from making cheap junk to high quality ……
Also the Chinese developed a new method for making tirzepatide that they developed and applied for a patent…..
https://patents.google.com/patent/CN110903355A/en
Yes was easy to find the molecular weight and amino acid sequence info to submit to lab …That is why I am testing there now lol. The other lab actual wanted a reference tirz sample to test against….. seemed like an area for potential fraud .
I was checking places to test tirzepatide . One lab used by a compounding pharmacy in Texas and required a reference sample for the tirz I wanted to test. Lots of room for fraud there.
The lab I use now had never tested tirz …. He didn’t want a reference sample he wanted the AA sequence and...
My rs went to the Phillipines during the summer and they got a script for b12 and reconstituted the peptide and returned to the vial . That way they had a script for the needles and B12……most b12 has a higher percents of benzyl Alcohol in it than bacteriostatic water …… 1.5 percent vs 0.9
I gave been morbidly obese for 20 years . I also prescribe meds as an NP. I don’t shame anyone for anything. It’s counterproductive. I also don’t care what others have to say…. I have 6 beautiful kids, a beautiful wife and a comfortable life. I have watched dozens of high school classmates die...
We had natural p cubensis … had to find the fields with grass fed beef for better yields …. Yeah need hot and humid weather . They grow crazy in South Mississippi. A RS could fill a large trash bag in 15 Minutes….. also the Audobon guide to mushroom identification was a great book…… this was...
Well I am from South Mississippi originally have 6 kids, an ex wife , remarried , and live in Tennessee …… not ghetto though lol
Also we got our shrooms from
Cow fields in South Mississippi the way God intended lol
I pay a college to test the amino acid sequence and the total mg of tirzepatide…. $108… I don’t care about it being 99 percent … that would be a more expensive test anyway.
Yeah I know there isn’t any heavy metals used in the manufacturing of tirzepatide … low risk for bacterial contamination in the Chinese method used because it is filtered . Most tirzepatide should be 99 percent pure out of the chemical plant ….after that is where the contamination risk occur.
There is plenty of room for contamination in the final processing when they add all the binders/ salts …. If it if 10 mg 99 percent pure tirz with 30 mg of binder that is a lot of room for contamination .
The tirz comes out in a raw form from the chemical plant….then it is finished and sterilized . it is processed, filtered freeze dried again …. That has to be a rough process.
Dogs sniffing tirz lol no too expensive to train and not worth it . How are they going to smell vacuum sealed bags and vials? No but I suspect Eli Lilly will put pressure on the Chinese government to suppress peptide manufacturing of tirz
Yeah, another website. Janoshik said it would be OK. It’s not advised but more than likely OK. The tryptophan will
Oxidize in the tirzepatide if frozen in water that is why it is only 3 months .
I could always freeze it and send it back to the lab to be amino acid sequenced months down the road . You’re right though it is better just breakdown to smaller dried portions and freeze.
I find it really hard to believe that peptides could be damaged by shaking. When they’re raw, it is a...
I know
I know there’s a TRP tryptophan in tirzepatide AA sequence because when I set up at a college to test the researcher asked me for the aa sequence and he discussed the difficulty of sequencing the trp..
https://www.peptide.com/resources/storage-and-handling-of-peptides/
They can be frozen, but only for three months is a recommendation. Cys, Met, or Trp residues are prone to oxidation That is why
Proven? Really ? Breakdown at what rate? Ok the article u posted used the word “may”… it could as easily” may not” lol there’s a whole lot of “May”in science….. it isn’t proven until it’s researched appropriately…. Then a “may” becomes “can”
I don’t see how freezing a peptide even reconstituted would harm it…….
The 28 day rule also was done because manufacturers only have to guarantee the solution will be bacteriostatic for 28 days…… vaccines are exempt from this requirement.
Yes, this would effectively end compounding tirz… I suspect China will still make it. Unfortunately I also suspect Lily will pressure the Chinese government to crack down on its non- Eli Lily production since China approved the drug in May of this year. It will be interesting to see.
Yes I know they are easily faked.. I will have it re tested anyway regardless of Janoshik. Like to see if they match…. Luckily the process used to make tirz has a low risk of contamination and is highly pure ……… I suspect the fill and finish is where the majority of all the contamination risk...
Sry has to be a middle man re- selling product from someone else. They cannot provide a CoA from the peptide manufacturer … I know they can be faked but if SRY was actually the manufacturer they could easily post that. I have been given one from most Chinese tirz suppliers.
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