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  1. Calm Logic

    Cain @NexaPh comes through

    Going by the tested amount, R60 is already 50 cents per mg at SSA (vendor tested at 66.2 mg). For R30, 62 cents/mg.
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    Cain @NexaPh comes through

    Okay, 36 cents/mg for R100 and 48 cents/mg for R30 :D
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    First grey order question

    Me too. With the help of a reverse calculation website, a general guideline for a manageable injection volume is 20 to 50 units (0.2 to 0.5 mL) for each subq injection. At least 20 units to help with accuracy and eyeing the syringe amount, but no more than 40 or 50 units to keep the...
  4. Calm Logic

    SSA has Orforglipron for sale

    Orforglipron seems exciting to me since the half life is much shorter, like one to two days, which I like for stacking.
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    Have you noticed Tirz tolerance developing over time?

    My impression was that many on oral AAS avoid statins, especially as a preventative, because they know oral AAS can be toxic to the liver. And they take other things like reta or supplements to help cholesterol instead. Not to mention that statins are not the best for muscle health.
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    Cain @NexaPh comes through

    Prediction: This time next year, reta will be 50 cents a mg, even for R30.
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    Reta + KLOW? Asking questions, needing answers.

    On the "positive" side, growth even from HGH doesn't seem to affect lung cancer as much as prostate, breast, and colon cancer. And some researchers (like the late Dr. John McDougall) swear by the studies that a low-fat diet is not only strongly correlated with less cancer, of various types...
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    Cain @NexaPh comes through

    Now I'm craving overfilled fries with an overfilled bottle of test :D (But the one thing I don't need overfilled is cagri, since I plan to be on such a low dose.)
  9. Calm Logic

    Your SSA Experience…

    What a horror show: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Compounding_Center_meningitis_outbreak The only possible consolation there is that the deadly epidural shots had bypassed the body's defenses (especially compared to subq): Another point there is that epidural steroid shots are...
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    Cain @NexaPh comes through

    Ever since I joined the Meso forum, my risk tolerance has only gone up :)
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    Have you noticed Tirz tolerance developing over time?

    The research that wine was not healthy was a big buzzkill for me. Now I use my few remaining bottles for cooking. Even resveratrol supplements lost their magic in the public eye and in some exercise-related research: "Resveratrol supplementation can actually blunt some of the positive...
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    Cain @NexaPh comes through

    There are more third-party tests for Nexa than any other vendor. But due to intra-batch variability, including recently with Nexa reta (R12 in July), the ideal is testing one's own kit, which is affordable for those already paying $600+ with Nexa. I have gotten domestic reta (R50) for about...
  13. Calm Logic

    Auto immune and Tirz plus Reta discussion

    How much do they charge compared to China?
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    Have you noticed Tirz tolerance developing over time?

    I need to get some basil plants. I get mojito vibes even from lemonade if there is basil in it, namely the strawberry basil lemonade from Panera Bread. If they had a Splenda version, I would be there every day.
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    Have you noticed Tirz tolerance developing over time?

    @Airborne Daddy Have you tried low-dose naltrexone (LDN) or whatever else they got now in India to lower cravings? I got LDN to boost weight loss, but I haven't tried it yet. In theory, marijuana gummies may help too with cravings, except for food, haha.
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    Have you noticed Tirz tolerance developing over time?

    Or liraglutide, haha. I still use a lira pen sometimes, like when I want to add something but don't want to regret it the next day.
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    Have you noticed Tirz tolerance developing over time?

    Geez. Makes sense about the Lipitor being the culprit, but it is a wake-up call since it is such a popular drug. (For a similar reason, guys on oral AAS seem to avoid statins.)
  18. Calm Logic

    Alright, let’s talk poop

    What dose of tirz are you on?
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    Have you noticed Tirz tolerance developing over time?

    There was a Canadian study using continuous glucose monitoring and daily ingestion of maple syrup. But seriously, to me, the sides are a sign that the tirz is still effective later on. For every person on 15 mg of tirz, there may be at least 20 people married to 5 mg because of side effects...
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    Cain @NexaPh comes through

    But what if you have a crush on your middleman and have collected all his merch? :D
  21. Calm Logic

    How long does it take for Reta to start working?

    Haven't tried reta yet. But with tirz, it takes at least 48 hours for the strongest effects for me.
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    Anyone trial >12 mg Reta or stalled on high dose reta?

    I guess maz does relatively well (comparable to survo) despite its least-impressive GLP value since it requires higher doses than survo and the other GLPs. A great point from The Gospel of @Super Trips is that they are all at least decent for stacking with tirz or reta:
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    Cain @NexaPh comes through

    Lots of places have reta for less than $1 per mg now, including single-vial sellers like Grey Axis Research ($40 for 52.78 mg, which is 76 cents per mg). Calculation of cost per mg, based on SSA's China pricelist: ItemCost of 10 VialsCost per mg Retatrutide 5$70$1.40 RT10 $90$0.90 RT12...
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    Cain @NexaPh comes through

    Yes.
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    Cain @NexaPh comes through

    If you don't have $850 to spend on R48, then that says more about you than about Cain. (But to me, the much bigger issue than pricing is his future legal status. If/when the FDA gets serious, they may go after the big fish. Like I said before, who doesn't know about Nexaph?)
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    Cain @NexaPh comes through

    To me, the worst of Nexaph was letting horribly-melted NAD+ out the door, only to offer certain people refunds (and usually only partial refunds, it seemed).
  27. Calm Logic

    When you get scared by stupid SSA staff selling you medical products!!!!!!!

    Another adjustment is Chinese customer service. The attached info on Lipo-C administration mentions subq as the norm, with IM for faster absorption or larger doses. The PDF is from Defy Medical. Most ready-to-inject vials from India will say for IM/IV injection but are often used subq, like...
  28. Calm Logic

    Anyone else receive a Notice of Seizure via certified mail?

    Just India Post, it seems. It was India Post that made their own decision.
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    When you get scared by stupid SSA staff selling you medical products!!!!!!!

    So all this drama over Lipo-C, which is overrated and becoming unpopular, except for maybe the B12: As with B12 by itself, you don't refrigerate it:
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    Your SSA Experience…

    Damn! Meanwhile, people ordering glutathione and other goodies from South Korea get their stuff in three days by FedEx.
  31. Calm Logic

    Recommended supplier

    If there ever was an exit scam, it was the withdrawal of Brute Enforcer Emeritus's constant sunshine 🌞
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    Recommended supplier

    You've just been promoted to Director of Master Pricelist Administration. With this volunteer position, you will be too busy for other hobbies.
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    Recommended supplier

    Uther is still a thing, just never popular here, partly due to their GLP pricing. But it seems they test consistently well third-party and have much better customer service than SSA or SRY (or possibly any other China vendor). They are also known for their nootropics.
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    Anyone trial >12 mg Reta or stalled on high dose reta?

    Someone posted the table above in the survo subforum here. I verified most of the KI values before as being what is in the research literature: https://glp1forum.com/threads/wbs.4706/post-68224 But for survo, all I know for sure is the 8:1 ratio between GLP and glucagon was mentioned in the...
  35. Calm Logic

    From Reta to Survo

    Part of a summary from Google Gemini: In my book, it's another win for reta and tirz, with reta seeming to have more GIP activation than tirz.
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    From Reta to Survo

    To add to your point, GIP is protective against nausea partly by being neutral for gastric emptying: From https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/endocrinology/articles/10.3389/fendo.2024.1431292/full?hl=en-US
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    Stacking Tirz with reta?

    At high enough doses without sufficient titration, even reta alone can cause problems, like 24/7 hiccups: https://glp1forum.com/threads/gyc-reta-50-gb.3151/ A potential problem with stacking, without an established protocol, is if you wake up adventurous one morning and inject far more than...
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    Legal concerns if powder delivered to wrong address?

    For GLPs, Google Gemini's answer is as comforting as a warm blanket on a snowy day: ....but if the substance tests as HGH:
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    Legal concerns if powder delivered to wrong address?

    What I wonder about every single day is what happens when USPS/FedEx/UPS delivers to the wrong address, and someone opens the package and sees a bunch of white powder. Obviously not anything usually, but it makes me wonder if any of these wrong addresses call the authorities. I know one can...
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    From Reta to Survo

    Yeah, many tirz users take reta and tirz together while switching to reta. That is a guessing game too, if not more so. While reta is more cost-effective for triple agonism, with more GIP activation and more glucagon activation per mg, reta is clearly not optimized for everyone...
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    From Reta to Survo

    Not a concern for me, nor something I have read. I sometimes use the phenol in my injectable B-12 as an alternative to BAC. So I plan to use B-12 the next time I recon HGH, which can be visibly fragile during and after recon (very prone to foaming and degrades quickly if left out of the fridge...
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    Considering Survodutide

    That reminds me of the theory that people with lower BPs will have greater HR increase.
  43. Calm Logic

    From Reta to Survo

    A new study shows high-dose mazdutide (16 mg) resulted in 21 percent weight loss in 20 weeks. That seems promising for high-dose survo as well, which is being studied at 6 mg.
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    High-Dose Tirz Weight Loss

    Survo(dutide) is a GLP that activates GLP-1 and glucagon. There is a survo subforum here for more info about it. Ghetto reta usually refers to stacking tirz with survo, as the combination hits the same three receptors as reta. Mazdutide with tirz is also seen as ghetto reta for the same reason...
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    High-Dose Tirz Weight Loss

    As you may know, reta is popular among the Meso/bro crowd for maintaining muscle while losing weight. This is because they can eat more on reta. I wouldn't increase the tirz. I would just wait it out longer or stack with survo. The problem with switching to reta is very possible/probable...
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    High-Dose Tirz Weight Loss

    @Blitziod What is you goal weight now?
  47. Calm Logic

    Bac water

    The BAC reseller I use now has a Jotform: https://form.jotform.com/252146441873054 Cost is $12 each plus $8 flat-rate shipping (free shipping for $100 orders).
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    Cain @NexaPh comes through

    Gotta love behavioral economics. The best thing Cain did was becoming well known by everyone. Who hasn't heard of Nexaph, except the remaining employees at the FDA?
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    Cain @NexaPh comes through

    If I was in the UK or other parts of Europe, I would probably use SSA from China. SRY from China would be my other consideration. As the two big China vendors, they generally have the best prices and selection. Uther has higher prices on GLPs but better customer service. So far, I have only...
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