(Alice) TFC’s Lipo-C tested as DYED WATER

I've come to the conclusion that we essentially broke the system with too much demand. Name brand meds are in shortage, The telehealth and compound pharmacies are all in disarray. The grey vendors are all screwed up, you can't trust ASC, TFC, gyc, amo disappeared, sry is ok but THEIR US warehouse and shipping has turned into a disaster. And everyone knows qsc issues.

I think there's just been so much of a rush into this space that the system buckled. I'm stocked up for a while but I think even after the CNY holiday, I'm sitting out for a few months while everyone regroups.
 
clayd said:
I've come to the conclusion that we essentially broke the system with too much demand. Name brand meds are in shortage, The telehealth and compound pharmacies are all in disarray. The grey vendors are all screwed up, you can't trust ASC, TFC, gyc, amo disappeared, sry is ok but THEIR US warehouse and shipping has turned into a disaster. And everyone knows qsc issues.

I think there's just been so much of a rush into this space that the system buckled. I'm stocked up for a while but I think even after the CNY holiday, I'm sitting out for a few months while everyone regroups.
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My SRY delivery is expected to happen today, according to the post office. Amo, with characteristic responsiveness, responded to my Whatsapp message yesterday within a few hours, telling me that returning customers can Whatsapp or email them, however, orders won't ship until after February 13. Amo said they will have a new website, although they wouldn't tell me its name yet.
 
clayd said:
I've come to the conclusion that we essentially broke the system with too much demand. Name brand meds are in shortage, The telehealth and compound pharmacies are all in disarray. The grey vendors are all screwed up, you can't trust ASC, TFC, gyc, amo disappeared, sry is ok but THEIR US warehouse and shipping has turned into a disaster. And everyone knows qsc issues.

I think there's just been so much of a rush into this space that the system buckled. I'm stocked up for a while but I think even after the CNY holiday, I'm sitting out for a few months while everyone regroups.
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Typically, vendors aren't lowering prices if something is about to buckle under demand pressure. Remember how cheap things got? My prediction is still that there are only about two companies making all of it in China and one of them probably lost favor with the CCP and is in a Chinese prison until they can pay their way out of it. The bitcoin wallet people were tracking with a half billion dollars in it is probably a family member of Xi Jinping
 
clevesand said:
Typically, vendors aren't lowering prices if something is about to buckle under demand pressure. Remember how cheap things got? My prediction is still that there are only about two companies making all of it in China and one of them probably lost favor with the CCP and is in a Chinese prison until they can pay their way out of it. The bitcoin wallet people were tracking with a half billion dollars in it is probably a family member of Xi Jinping
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yeah fair point on the prices. but was that mostly just mostly the resellers' profit margin getting competed away while the actual manufacturers were running at full capacity, and thus started supplying subpar product - or worse, fake product?

usually falling prices don't indicate too much demand but i wonder if both could be true - somehow falling prices reflecting greater competition in one part of the supply chain while the other parts are totally overwhelmed? just a thought. maybe a reach.
 
keangkong said:
I highly doubt this. The Chinese economy is highly resilient and quick to adapt. China with a population of 1.4 billion people can handle the added demand.
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well are we talking 1.4 billion people or are we talking 2 factories that produce raws.
i'm just saying i think it's temporarily broken. it will get fixed. but in the rush of the last 6 months, some things came out bad, some bad product, some bad shipping, bad operations/backoffice, some degradation, some dyed water, some unscrupulous freight forwarders...it will all shake out
 
clayd said:
well are we talking 1.4 billion people or are we talking 2 factories that produce raws.
i'm just saying i think it's temporarily broken. it will get fixed. but in the rush of the last 6 months, some things came out bad, some bad product, some bad shipping, bad operations/backoffice, some degradation, some dyed water, some unscrupulous freight forwarders...it will all shake out
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It would not surprise me if things are tough for a few months.
 
I have 2 fresh kits of Lipo-C from @Alice TFC here. I wrote here in Discord about it. Lets see how she will solve this, because selling dyed water is a planned scam. If its underdosed then we van talk about a mistake but not in this case
 
keangkong said:
With Chinese New Year celebrations going on, I don't expect a quick response.
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She is active in discord. Will keep you updated.

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ewb needs to tag her profile as scammer.

Alice, PDNM, QST, and the rest of these alphabet soup vendors that popped up around October are probably all working for ASC. They're all scammers. I was shopping for lipo c a while back but got suspicious because these companies are all selling a kit for around $80~$120, when QSC known for rock bottom prices were quoting $170 a kit.

If you bought a kit from group buys such as turtle or Eris you probably got scammed too. They look exactly like these kits.
 
I've only tried a Lipo-C-type mix from an EU research vendor and it has quite an immediate effect - flushing, increased heart rate, even slight tremors - that is not very pleasant but goes away after a little while. I imagine it would be very (not) noticeable if it was just food dye and did absolutely nothing?

Does anyone know of independent tests done on other TFC products, especially non GLP peptides?
 
beefsteak said:
ewb needs to tag her profile as scammer.

Alice, PDNM, QST, and the rest of these alphabet soup vendors that popped up around October are probably all working for ASC. They're all scammers. I was shopping for lipo c a while back but got suspicious because these companies are all selling a kit for around $80~$120, when QSC known for rock bottom prices were quoting $170 a kit.

If you bought a kit from group buys such as turtle or Eris you probably got scammed too. They look exactly like these kits.
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QSC might not be the best alternative. I doubt that I'm getting the reta I paid for in crypto about two weeks before Tracy disappeared.
 
beefsteak said:
ewb needs to tag her profile as scammer.

Alice, PDNM, QST, and the rest of these alphabet soup vendors that popped up around October are probably all working for ASC. They're all scammers. I was shopping for lipo c a while back but got suspicious because these companies are all selling a kit for around $80~$120, when QSC known for rock bottom prices were quoting $170 a kit.

If you bought a kit from group buys such as turtle or Eris you probably got scammed too. They look exactly like these kits.
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Lipo being a blend…is there anyone that can verify it’s legit besides a US pharmacy?
 
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