Any recommendations on grey vendors without crypto?

[karib574]

ERP also takes PayPal. I can't recommend them yet, but I did place an order as a trial run to see what's up.

I ordered from them. I took 13 days to receive it on the west coast. Communication and shipment were fast. I haven't tested it and haven't used it yet, so can't speak to that. But so far so good.

 

[basedpepbae]

If you’re looking for T30, Nexa is having their presale today and they take cards. $185 before shipping. I thought about going for it (first grey order) but ended up ordering from Binh after finding a current test group and matching batch numbers. His was also $161 shipped.

 

[peptideusername]

If you’re looking for T30, Nexa is having their presale today and they take cards. $185 before shipping. I thought about going for it (first grey order) but ended up ordering from Binh after finding a current test group and matching batch numbers. His was also $161 shipped.

The last t30 I bought was $70 each. And then about $10 total to test them.
That's a hefty convenience fee for Nexa.

 

[geoguy78]

The last t30 I bought was $70 each. And then about $10 total to test them.
That's a hefty convenience fee for Nexa.

Cain charging around a $100 fee for Paypal lmao

 

[IshimaruKenta]

The last t30 I bought was $70 each. And then about $10 total to test them.
That's a hefty convenience fee for Nexa.

I bought some T30 at $90. No way I'd ever pay $185. His reta prices are just ridiculous too, pre-order or not. I thought PGB was bad with prices.

 

[basedpepbae]

I agree! They’re a first for many people so I understand his place in the market but I couldn’t justify the price personally. PGB is also really high.

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

If you're in the US, here's a guide on how to purchase crypto using PayPal:

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Back in the day (a little over a year ago), people were spending $10-$30+ to buy crypto to pay for their peptides. In my infinite cheapness, I sought a different, i.e. cheaper way to do it. That's when I discovered that you can use PayPal to buy crypto, specifically USDT/USDC on Solana, for no...

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Thank you for this. My first goal.was to find this place, second goal is to learn how to buy with crypto, after work im gonna figure it out!

 

[Rezn8]

Long term speaking... crypto is a necessary evil in this space. Every vendor that accepts paypal today, someday most likely won't.

Out of curiosity, why? Why are these vendors moving away from PayPal?

I would think the more payment options you offered, the more successful you could potentially be. What am I missing here?

 

[Foggy-Hollow]

The last t30 I bought was $70 each. And then about $10 total to test them.
That's a hefty convenience fee for Nexa.

$185 for 300mg is $0.62/mg… maybe a scosh high but not exorbitant.

Not as low as overseaseas (roughly twice that) but about half of other “easy” US warehouses that I see.

I haven’t updated my prices for about 6 weeks.

I don’t work for them, I’ve appreciated ease of use. Go splunking in crypto-land. 🙂 Be happy.

 

[Foggy-Hollow]

It’s a kit.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Out of curiosity, why? Why are these vendors moving away from PayPal?

I would think the more payment options you offered, the more successful you could potentially be. What am I missing here?

It has nothing to do with vendors moving away from PayPal, it's PayPal moving away from vendors.

 

[geoguy78]

Out of curiosity, why? Why are these vendors moving away from PayPal?

I would think the more payment options you offered, the more successful you could potentially be. What am I missing here?

A few reasons. For starters, a lot of vendors have experienced chargebacks from customers. There are documented cases all over the internet peptide space of people using PayPal to order product, getting impatient with the slow pace of delivery and initiating a chargeback. Then getting the product, so the vendor literally got ripped off. Unscrupulous scammer customers have also done it with no intention of paying for the product in the first place. And being the gray market, the vendor has no recourse. It's not like they can go to PayPal and say "hey, I want to dispute this chargeback because I actually did deliver these illegal meds that violate PayPal terms of service...". PayPal is also regulated by law so vendors are at risk of getting their accounts shut down, increased scrutiny from the authorities, etc. Crypto is just a lot safer for them overall, and also protects the consumer. I for one don't want to have a traceable log of my money going to a gray market tirzepatide purchase if EL gets my vendor's transaction record from the Chinese government and decides to start suing individual consumers.... Remote chance, yes. But total anonymity is a good thing in my opinion.

 

[ocuzuc]

Work at a highly regulated financial firm, my employment agreement prohibits me from owning/mining any crypto, and must attest to that yearly (as well as reporting being a party of or to any legal action, etc). So with KYC in place for buying crypto, I am not going risking my job just save $40. Therefore I don’t and I have had good experiences with nexaph (credit card) amo/bfflist (paypal via alibaba) for kits of 10. and grey axis research (paypal), and an independent going by BioBombshell (venmo) for single vials, both seem to be reselling singles from group buys.

 

[rkl123]

Work at a highly regulated financial firm, my employment agreement prohibits me from owning/mining any crypto, and must attest to that yearly (as well as reporting being a party of or to any legal action, etc). So with KYC in place for buying crypto, I am not going risking my job just save $40. Therefore I don’t and I have had good experiences with nexaph (credit card) amo/bfflist (paypal via alibaba) for kits of 10. and grey axis research (paypal), and an independent going by BioBombshell (venmo) for single vials, both seem to be reselling singles from group buys.

You're the exception on this sort of thing, the rare person who maybe shouldn't learn crypto even if they have to pay more.

I'm curious though...are there silly loopholes (like your wife controlling a crypto account)?

 

[ocuzuc]

You're the exception on this sort of thing, the rare person who maybe shouldn't learn crypto even if they have to pay more.

I'm curious though...are there silly loopholes (like your wife controlling a crypto account)?

Yeah I know. A lot stems from AML regulations, and the attestation includes any close relatives, and everyone that lives in your household, related or not.

 

[AndyPanda]

Cain charging around a $100 fee for Paypal lmao

Cains days are numbered, and I’m terrified that I’ve bought from him in the past. Hopefully the feds don’t go tracking down customers. His practices have become increasingly reckless and his Telegram is convoluted with nearly 20,000 members of which half have no clue what they are doing. His mods are giving bad medical advice. I think he would be wise to cash out while he can.

 

[BikesOverCars]

Amino Lair, 100%.

 

[YoYoFat]

You're the exception on this sort of thing, the rare person who maybe shouldn't learn crypto even if they have to pay more.

I'm curious though...are there silly loopholes (like your wife controlling a crypto account)?

Not that rare. I’m in the same boat. I have the excuse that I literally can’t own/run/mine crypto, but the truth is that I have no interest in it, anyway, and I get to avoid seizure and delays from seizures.

 

[YoYoFat]

Cains days are numbered, and I’m terrified that I’ve bought from him in the past.

Ohhhhh so scarrrrryyyyyyy 🙄🙄🙄

 

[AndyPanda]

Ohhhhh so scarrrrryyyyyyy 🙄🙄🙄

You clearly have no understanding of how complex federal investigations work.

 

[basedpepbae]

Not that rare. I’m in the same boat. I have the excuse that I literally can’t own/run/mine crypto, but the truth is that I have no interest in it, anyway, and I get to avoid seizure and delays from seizures.

Biggest benefit for me. Not risking customs 👍 and get it much quicker too. I also only use Tirz. I’ve spent more in supplies than I’ll spend in Tirz for a year.

 

[Cassie MKM]

Yes, I quite agree. It's indeed much more convenient

Just spend the few minutes to figure out how to do crypto. It'll make it much easier to source this stuff.

 

[Cassie MKM]

Biggest benefit for me. Not risking customs 👍 and get it much quicker too. I also only use Tirz. I’ve spent more in supplies than I’ll spend in Tirz for a year.

Yes, this benefit is obvious.

 

[Rezn8]

A few reasons. For starters, a lot of vendors have experienced chargebacks from customers. There are documented cases all over the internet peptide space of people using PayPal to order product, getting impatient with the slow pace of delivery and initiating a chargeback. Then getting the product, so the vendor literally got ripped off. Unscrupulous scammer customers have also done it with no intention of paying for the product in the first place. And being the gray market, the vendor has no recourse. It's not like they can go to PayPal and say "hey, I want to dispute this chargeback because I actually did deliver these illegal meds that violate PayPal terms of service...". PayPal is also regulated by law so vendors are at risk of getting their accounts shut down, increased scrutiny from the authorities, etc. Crypto is just a lot safer for them overall, and also protects the consumer. I for one don't want to have a traceable log of my money going to a gray market tirzepatide purchase if EL gets my vendor's transaction record from the Chinese government and decides to start suing individual consumers.... Remote chance, yes. But total anonymity is a good thing in my

A few reasons. For starters, a lot of vendors have experienced chargebacks from customers. There are documented cases all over the internet peptide space of people using PayPal to order product, getting impatient with the slow pace of delivery and initiating a chargeback. Then getting the product, so the vendor literally got ripped off. Unscrupulous scammer customers have also done it with no intention of paying for the product in the first place. And being the gray market, the vendor has no recourse. It's not like they can go to PayPal and say "hey, I want to dispute this chargeback because I actually did deliver these illegal meds that violate PayPal terms of service...". PayPal is also regulated by law so vendors are at risk of getting their accounts shut down, increased scrutiny from the authorities, etc. Crypto is just a lot safer for them overall, and also protects the consumer. I for one don't want to have a traceable log of my money going to a gray market tirzepatide purchase if EL gets my vendor's transaction record from the Chinese government and decides to start suing individual consumers.... Remote chance, yes. But total anonymity is a good thing in my opinion.

Thanks for the info. That all makes perfect sense.