Anyone else receive a Notice of Seizure via certified mail?

[Texansgal]

I received a letter of peptides being seized and that I may have an interest in them.

It gives me 4 options.

Why is this making it look like I am committing a criminal act? It was Tirz, Nad+ and BPC.

I’ve never received a letter like this before.

 

[Calm Logic]

NAD+ and BPC are sold on Amazon (as capsules), so (in a less imperfect world) the only issue would be the tirz.

 

[Texansgal]

NAD+ and BPC are sold on Amazon (as capsules), so the only issue to me is the tirz.

That’s what I was thinking. But this is terrifying.

 

[Calm Logic]

Yeah, unfortunately, I would go with #3:

https://www.justanswer.com/law/qrh9t-received-notice-customs-11-25-24-global.html

By abandoning your claim, you waive the right to contest the seizure and will avoid potential legal or financial liability for the item.

Ensure you keep a copy of the completed form for your records, and follow any instructions provided for returning the form to CBP.

 

[AndyPanda]

I received a letter of peptides being seized and that I may have an interest in them.

It gives me 4 options.

Why is this making it look like I am committing a criminal act? It was Tirz, Nad+ and BPC.

I’ve never received a letter like this before.

I never received one through certified mail, but have received one. If you place another order, I would use a different name and address. I read on MESORX that once you have a package seized, your name and address will get flagged.

I just counted the loss, but that’s up to you. My package was seized before because it had Lunesta from India in it.

 

[Texansgal]

I never received one through certified mail, but have received one. If you place another order, I would use a different name and address. I read on MESORX that once you have a package seized, your name and address will get flagged.

Great! Thank you so much.

 

[Peloma]

Big pharma continues to flex its power. Just ignore it. It's not a real issue. There are probably a few feds on this forum as we speak.

This is why I prefer to purchase from a US warehouse. It's already here. We pay a little more because the risk is reduced on our end.

 

[Calm Logic]

This is why I prefer to purchase from a US warehouse. It's already here. We pay a little more because the risk is reduced on our end.

Exactly.

 

[Calm Logic]

From Google Gemini:

• Automatic Forfeiture: CBP will likely proceed with the forfeiture of the tirzepatide without your input. This is the most probable outcome of ignoring the notice.
  
  
• Potential for Negative Consequences: While less likely, ignoring a formal notice could potentially lead to further scrutiny or complications depending on the specific circumstances of the seizure and the reasons behind it. It might be seen as non-cooperation.

 

[Ted R]

Big pharma continues to flex its power. Just ignore it. It's not a real issue. There are probably a few feds on this forum as we speak.

This is why I prefer to purchase from a US warehouse. It's already here. We pay a little more because the risk is reduced on our end.

You are singing my song.

 

[Calm Logic]

My package was seized before because it had Lunesta from India in it.

That is surprising for such an unexciting medication, but I see it is a controlled substance. Regarding tirz:

Tirzepatide:

• High Risk of Seizure: Tirzepatide, while gaining popularity for weight management and type 2 diabetes, faces significant scrutiny from U.S. Customs. Several factors contribute to this high risk:
  • Unapproved Status: Unless specifically approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the individual and imported under strict personal importation guidelines, tirzepatide entering the U.S. is considered an unapproved drug. The FDA generally prohibits the importation of unapproved drugs.
    
    
  • Enforcement Focus: CBP has been actively seizing shipments of unapproved weight loss drugs, including tirzepatide, often originating from unregistered foreign entities. There's an increased focus on preventing these drugs from entering the U.S. due to concerns about safety, efficacy, and potential counterfeiting.
    
    
  • Intellectual Property: Pharmaceutical companies like Eli Lilly, the manufacturer of FDA-approved tirzepatide (Mounjaro and Zepbound), are actively working to prevent the import of illicit knock-off versions, citing trademark infringement and false designation of origin. The U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) has also issued orders directing CBP to crack down on these imports.
    
    
  • Recent Seizures: CBP has reported numerous seizures of tirzepatide shipments arriving from various countries, often mislabeled or concealed.

 

[Ted R]

Lilly must REALLY see a lot of BIG BUCKS in the future from Tirz.

 

[Calm Logic]

And I would think Lilly's biggest problem is compounding pharmacies, rather than individuals buying peptides. They have sued two compounding pharmacies so far (that I know of).

 

[hexagonal]

I received a letter of peptides being seized and that I may have an interest in them.

It gives me 4 options.

Why is this making it look like I am committing a criminal act? It was Tirz, Nad+ and BPC.

I’ve never received a letter like this before.

Because in the strictest sense, you are.

Human Drug Imports

Human drug import information

www.fda.gov

These almost certainly fail the adulteration and branding requirements for drug importing. It's just that they are almost certainly just going to destroy it and move on, unlike what they might do for controlled substances.

 

[Calm Logic]

The guys on the steroid forums probably just eat these notices for fiber, e.g.

Charges are not sent to you in a letter merely because they seized a package. It takes more than that. Anyone can send a package to anyone else.

Brother let me speak from experience here . The amount of packages containing banned products That crosses the boarder everyday is astronomical . Hundreds of pounds of raw fentanyl,steroids and other drugs in raw as well as pill form cross the boarders . They simply dont have the resources to track every package down . Especially a small box of AAS. They already know they have no way to prove that it was you who ordered what is inside the box and chances are if they show up that you will deny the package is yours ( I would hope) . They would need an admission . case closed.

Thats not to say for you not to take precautions . I wouldn't order to the same address again . I dont know what country your in , But it is possible they have flagged your address . Its doubtful but its possible . Dont order to your address anymore. Have it sent to a friend or get a po box . Try and register it in someone else's name , But you can get away with it using your name . The only thing they will see is the address to a po box .

Alright chief let me tell you something:

no. There is no federal investigation lol.

With a package seizure, you may receive what's referred to as a "love letter"...

All that's happened now is his address is flagged. Tell him to stop ordering sketchy shit. For the next year or so, don't order anything illegal. Even then I'd use a different address to be safe. Package seizures happen all the time and this dude needs to stop being paranoid. Unless they attempted a controlled delivery, which they wouldn't unless you were moving serious weight, you're fine. Chill out.

First, you should panic. A tactical squad is likely en route to your house at this very moment.

Then you should shave your head, burn off your fingerprints, stow away on a freighter to Europe, sneak into France, join the French Foreign Legion.

A couple years from now when you are murdering Africans to support the economic interests of the French elite this will all seem like a distant past life.

 

[tul9033]

I had 2 seized last month and got 2 letters. My suggestion is to ignore them and don't stress over it. I've since received 5 other packages from India loaded with prescription meds. So far, the theory of me being on some list has not been true. My orders were full on controlled scripts in manufacturer packaging.
I wouldn't give peptides a second thought. They are going to have to lab test it to even know what it is and even then the whole "For Research" subterfuge is in play.

 

[Glp1judd]

I had 2 seized last month and got 2 letters. My suggestion is to ignore them and don't stress over it. I've since received 5 other packages from India loaded with prescription meds. So far, the theory of me being on some list has not been true. These are full on controlled scripts in manufacturer packaging.
I wouldn't give peptides a second thought. They are going to have to lab test it to even know what it is and even then the whole "For Research" subterfuge is in play.

*arent

Agreed. My advice (worth nothing): Ignore and don’t order to same address for a while. P.O. Boxes are cheap.

 

[Calm Logic]

If you do get a PO Box, I would use your real name and info:

18 U.S. Code § 1342 - Fictitious name or address

www.law.cornell.edu

Conviction under 18 U.S.C. § 1342 can result in up to five years in federal prison and a fine of up to $250,000, or both.

Providing incorrect information on USPS Form 1583 (required to set up a PO box or private mailbox) can also have serious repercussions, including criminal charges, mail fraud charges, nullification of mailbox service contracts, and potential civil liabilities.

So if you want to be paranoid, that's how the feds get you: for lying (which is ironic since the police can lie to you during questioning). One of my favorite cold case files on TV --- they knew the guy (a medical doctor) committed murder but could only get him convicted for a fake government ID.

By the way, do your Indian pharmacies require a signature on delivery? I used Reliable Rx, and they do. OTOH, they don't sell controlled substances like the ones on IndiaMart.

 

[tul9033]

If you do get a PO Box, I would use your real name and info:

18 U.S. Code § 1342 - Fictitious name or address

www.law.cornell.edu

So if you want to be paranoid, that's how the feds get you: for lying (which is ironic since the police can lie to you during questioning). One of my favorite cold case files on TV --- they knew the guy (a medical doctor) committed murder but could only get him convicted for a fake government ID.

By the way, do your Indian pharmacies require a signature on delivery? I used Reliable Rx, and they do. OTOH, they don't sell controlled substances like the ones on IndiaMart.

Only one has required a signature and ironically they are the ones getting seized. They also post this:

Using Pseudonyms (Fake Names): Think Twice!​

While you're free to use any name for your orders, we advise caution:

1. Delivery Issues: The postal service reserves the right to reject delivery in the event that a false name is utilized, with the tracking status indicating "Unrecognized recipient".
2. No Refunds: No refunds or returns in the event of any issues arising from the use of a false name.

Always consider the consequences and choose wisely when providing information.

 

[AndyPanda]

If you do get a PO Box, I would use your real name and info:

18 U.S. Code § 1342 - Fictitious name or address

www.law.cornell.edu

So if you want to be paranoid, that's how the feds get you: for lying (which is ironic since the police can lie to you during questioning). One of my favorite cold case files on TV --- they knew the guy (a medical doctor) committed murder but could only get him convicted for a fake government ID.

By the way, do your Indian pharmacies require a signature on delivery? I used Reliable Rx, and they do.

I have a box at a UPS store. USPS has no say over it. If someone is really worried they can just add a business name to it. Name it after an eBay or Etsy account.