hostile-pira changes in availability

[ZippityDooDah]

lol..

Honestly your price per ml was likely reasonable as long as your tolerance for past expiration is!

$958.72 per gallon if anyone is counting.

 

[penewbie]

$958.72 per gallon if anyone is counting.

Gold costs slightly under $3400 per oz. Cheap gray market Reta is $23,327.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Gold costs slightly under $3400 per oz. Cheap gray market Reta is $23,327.

It's insane the prices we pay for some things when scaled up to the weights and measures of common household goods.

Anything water-related always blows my mind.

 

[Calm Logic]

IndiaMart is way sketch than SSA or SRY, or even LSPL/AVA for that matter. Use with caution.

And IndiaMart has an average TrustPilot rating of 1.7, though one positive review for IndiaMart had a good experience with PublixCare, which has exceptional reviews as does Kawal's DMOnlineMeds.

But yes, it is much worse than I thought, after reading your experience and that of Andy. And now I see some stuff on IndiaMart like reta that I doubt anyone is selling, just a way to scam.

More throwing IndiaMart under the bus:

https://pharmacyreviewer.com/forum/threads/indiamart-is-full-of-scammers.47129/

SSA and SRY do sell a lot of pharmaceutical stuff besides peptides, and there are reliable pharmacy websites listed here, with a related discussion on Reddit.

 

[arborealtrout]

I have an NPI number. This is actually all I need? I'm in the medical field, a psychotherapist, but I do not write prescriptions and I don't have an llc as I work for a hospital system.

I just ordered a case of hostile-pira bacteriostatic water. The vendor didn’t want my NPI at all. They wanted proof of prescribing authority. They wouldn’t accept my DEA number or a state license number. They wanted uploaded images of both.

 

[PurplePeopleEater]

To add my useless thoughts to the topic, I’ve finally blown through my XCE bac, my PGB bac and looking at the illustrious Ebac-water dot com case I bought back in the day before I knew about their fakes. I was hoping there was a temporary glitch in prices that would smooth out by the time I needed more but that’s not happening. I shoved the Ebac-water in a dark corner to decide whether to use it or toss it since I bought a whole case but I guess I’m probably going to Winty it tomorrow. I haven’t heard of anyone dying or being hospitalized from it in the last year so fingers crossed. 😂

 

[nonyabizznez]

To add my useless thoughts to the topic, I’ve finally blown through my XCE bac, my PGB bac and looking at the illustrious Ebac-water dot com case I bought back in the day before I knew about their fakes. I was hoping there was a temporary glitch in prices that would smooth out by the time I needed more but that’s not happening. I shoved the Ebac-water in a dark corner to decide whether to use it or toss it since I bought a whole case but I guess I’m probably going to Winty it tomorrow. I haven’t heard of anyone dying or being hospitalized from it in the last year so fingers crossed. 😂

I bought from Ebac last summer. I think their label was white where the common hostile-pira label is currently black (where the expiration date is). This difference was part of the counterfeit speculation. Apparently (word on the street) was an acceptable (non counterfeit) hostile-pira bac water possibly sourced from Canada, a practice they may have had to discontinue. They are still around with hostile-pira looking "generic" water.

I used 3 bottles of the "Canadian" Ebac hostile-pira w/o issue.

 

[arborealtrout]

Has anyone used this method like moonpies suggested - adding 9 units of Benzyl Alcohol to hostile-pira sterile water 10ml vial like is sold at the link below? Obviously wiping down and cleaning everything with 70% Isopropyl Alcohol to keep things as clean/sterile as possible.

https://injectionshop.com/sup-ster-h2o.html

That wouldn’t result in 0.9% benzyl alcohol in water, though.

If you dump nine liters of benzyl alcohol into a thousand liters of water, you’ll end up with 1,009 liters of total volume in which that 9 liters is mixed. That’s a concentration of 9/1009 ‎ = 0.00892 = 0.892%. (Sometimes moving zeroes and decimal points around makes this easier to conceptualize. Use minims or hogsheads if you prefer.) 0.9% would be 9 liters in a total final volume of 1,000 liters, so if all you have is 9 liters of benzyl alcohol, you’d need to add it to 991 liters of water.

The correct method in this instance would be to withdraw and waste 0.09 mL (or 9 units, if Units are your preferred units) of the sterile water before replacing it with an equal amount of benzyl alcohol.

This is quick, easy, accurate, and avoids having to solve for X/(100+X)=0.9% on the fly.

 

[penewbie]

That wouldn’t result in 0.9% benzyl alcohol in water, though.

If you dump nine liters of benzyl alcohol into a thousand liters of water, you’ll end up with 1,009 liters of total volume in which that 9 liters is mixed. That’s a concentration of 9/1009 ‎ = 0.00892 = 0.892%. (Sometimes moving zeroes and decimal points around makes this easier to conceptualize. Use minims or hogsheads if you prefer.) 0.9% would be 9 liters in a total final volume of 1,000 liters, so if all you have is 9 liters of benzyl alcohol, you’d need to add it to 991 liters of water.

The correct method in this instance would be to withdraw and waste 0.09 mL (or 9 units, if Units are your preferred units) of the sterile water before replacing it with an equal amount of benzyl alcohol.

This is quick, easy, accurate, and avoids having to solve for X/(100+X)=0.9% on the fly.

While what you're saying is true, the difference is far too small to make any real difference.

 

[Calm Logic]

But I would err on having more benzyl alcohol, not less.

 

[zpped]

I bought from Ebac last summer. I think their label was white where the common hostile-pira label is currently black (where the expiration date is). This difference was part of the counterfeit speculation. Apparently (word on the street) was an acceptable (non counterfeit) hostile-pira bac water possibly sourced from Canada, a practice they may have had to discontinue. They are still around with hostile-pira looking "generic" water.

I used 3 bottles of the "Canadian" Ebac hostile-pira w/o issue.

Ebac has absolutely 100% been selling counterfeit hostile-pira. Some have been better forgeries than others.

 

[pavlovs]

I just ordered a case of hostile-pira bacteriostatic water. The vendor didn’t want my NPI at all. They wanted proof of prescribing authority. They wouldn’t accept my DEA number or a state license number. They wanted uploaded images of both.

Thanks for letting me know. I was too chicken to try it and ended up just ordering from amsco. I think it was 235.00, but I won't have to think about it again for a year and a half.

 

[zpped]

Thanks for letting me know. I was too chicken to try it and ended up just ordering from amsco. I think it was 235.00, but I won't have to think about it again for a year and a half.

A case should last you a lot longer than that.

 

[pavlovs]

A case should last you a lot longer than that.

It has an expiration of July 2026, I'm maybe being overly cautious, but I don't want to use more than a few months past that date. I also throw the bottles away 30 days after opening.

 

[zpped]

It has an expiration of July 2026, I'm maybe being overly cautious, but I don't want to use more than a few months past that date. I also throw the bottles away 30 days after opening.

If you're going to throw away perfectly good bottles of hostile-pira, feel free to send them to me.

 

[chmuse]

If you're going to throw away perfectly good bottles of hostile-pira, feel free to send them to me.

Samesies.

Or if it hits expiration date, sell before tossing. Plenty of us would jump on it. I'm not sure I'd jump on already punctured bac, but just 'it's August and expired in january' sign me up

 

[esdsafepoet]

I got the same expire recently, and I'm not sure why, because the email I got from them about a month earlier (which offered it for a much lower price, had I jumped) said their current batch had an Oct 2026 expire. So it seemed odd to pay a much higher price a month later and get an older batch.

 

[rkl123]

It has an expiration of July 2026, I'm maybe being overly cautious, but I don't want to use more than a few months past that date. I also throw the bottles away 30 days after opening.

I would pay shipping for all of these you're uncomfortable with (so long as they're not open). Same to anyone else in this thread.

 

[AndyPanda]

It has an expiration of July 2026, I'm maybe being overly cautious, but I don't want to use more than a few months past that date. I also throw the bottles away 30 days after opening.

Expired hostile-pira is better than brand new, home brewed BAC from most of the single vial vendors or tap water people buy from Amazon.

 

[pavlovs]

Expired hostile-pira is better than brand new, home brewed BAC from most of the single vial vendors or tap water people buy from Amazon.
I would pay shipping for all of these you're uncomfortable with (so long as they're not open). Same to anyone else in this thread.

If you're going to throw away perfectly good bottles of hostile-pira, feel free to send them to me.

I would pay shipping for all of these you're uncomfortable with (so long as they're not open). Same to anyone else in this thread.

Samesies.

Or if it hits expiration date, sell before tossing. Plenty of us would jump on it. I'm not sure if jump on already punctured bac, but just 'it's August and expired in january' sign me up

All right, sounds good, I'll refer back to this thread next year and offer any unused to zppd first, then others in order of posts. I wouldn't sell any leftovers, but I'd sure offer them for free🙂 Hopefully by next year we won't have to worry about this anymore.

Andy, I totally understand it is probably safe well beyond the BUD, and I also know that generally any infections caused by bacteria usually small and can easily be treated, but I have diabetes. Even a small infection can turn into something that leads to sepsis. I try to be super safe with this new hobby and probably do a lot of unnecessary things that don't have to be done. I'm cool with being a chicken.

 

[Morbius]

That wouldn’t result in 0.9% benzyl alcohol in water, though.

 

[nonyabizznez]

Ebac has absolutely 100% been selling counterfeit hostile-pira. Some have been better forgeries than others.

I'm not disputing that 🤷🏻‍♂️ I said "They are still around with hostile-pira looking "generic" water"

Quick glance at their website has bottles shaped like hostile-pira labeled "Reconstitution Solution" brand is "generic." If they're full of piss that's on the buyer duped by pictures and cheesy YouTube sales pitches.

(Possibly me when I first started out last year 🤣)

 

[AndyPanda]

All right, sounds good, I'll refer back to this thread next year and offer any unused to zppd first, then others in order of posts. I wouldn't sell any leftovers, but I'd sure offer them for free🙂 Hopefully by next year we won't have to worry about this anymore.

Andy, I totally understand it is probably safe well beyond the BUD, and I also know that generally any infections caused by bacteria usually small and can easily be treated, but I have diabetes. Even a small infection can turn into something that leads to sepsis. I try to be super safe with this new hobby and probably do a lot of unnecessary things that don't have to be done. I'm cool with being a chicken.

You can never be too safe! Being good stewards to our health is probably one of our most important duties.

 

[wwwAngels]

That wouldn’t result in 0.9% benzyl alcohol in water, though.

If you dump nine liters of benzyl alcohol into a thousand liters of water, you’ll end up with 1,009 liters of total volume in which that 9 liters is mixed. That’s a concentration of 9/1009 ‎ = 0.00892 = 0.892%. (Sometimes moving zeroes and decimal points around makes this easier to conceptualize. Use minims or hogsheads if you prefer.) 0.9% would be 9 liters in a total final volume of 1,000 liters, so if all you have is 9 liters of benzyl alcohol, you’d need to add it to 991 liters of water.

The correct method in this instance would be to withdraw and waste 0.09 mL (or 9 units, if Units are your preferred units) of the sterile water before replacing it with an equal amount of benzyl alcohol.

This is quick, easy, accurate, and avoids having to solve for X/(100+X)=0.9% on the fly.

That's some mad math skills. You lost me at "if" lol.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

hostile-pira probably needs to be nicknamed scamwater.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

hostile-pira probably needs to be nicknamed scamwater.

That's prescription scamwater to you. Prescription water. The whole world has become upside-down and backwards.

 

[esdsafepoet]