It's okay to take this risk if you want. It's not without risk tho. Even tho you justify doing it because nothing bad has happened, doesn't mean nothing ever could. I take risks. But I don't tell others that it's perfectly safe when it's not. I mean, you had to have known you'd get some folks who'd not agree right?
Well, I know people do look at things differently but to me is all about common sense. I literally can do this for 100 years and I know it for sure nothing will happen. I'm not working out of Wuhan lab lol but in my environment, my house which I wipe with alcohol everything I come In contact with (and do it often), but the point I don't get is what difference does it make if I pin myself in one place then pull that needle and pin myself again 1/2 inch from the first place (10 seconds later) and somehow that is dangerous? Where the heck does that come from? It was inside my body, and it is going again inside my body. Plus, as I've been saying I wipe it every time it goes in and out of my body or different vials. Obviously, I'm not suggesting anything to anyone but just telling it how I do it. The thing which I believe would be dangerous is if you share the needle with somebody else no matter how near and dear they are, that is a huge no, no.
For me, It's the re-introducing that needle used in your body back into a vial that has the potential to grow stuff after you're done and it sits in the fridge till next time. And over and over again.
That’s absolutely vile, but you do you I guess?
Actually, that part was the part that I was initially worried about also, but as I continued doing it and nothing happened then my fear kind of went away. I do however agree that it is not probably advisable to do so, and perhaps not even smart to do so, but for some reason I wasn't scared enough to not do it. Most likely I'll start using only one needle per one day for however many pinning's or different peptides I'll pin for that day.
We have to consider the readers of the forum. To tell them what is safe and what is not. As for your research, you can do whatever you want🙂
Do you mind sharing what the other two you have found to have value/effect? I'm intrigued. =)
I did not get anything from the famous ones such as BPC-, TB-500, Thymosin. selank, epithalon e many others. The ones I got some effect was PT141 for sexual stimulation and works differently than Viagra or Cialis but seemed same or more effective. Then there was Melanotan-2 for tanning which does work but the tan doesn't look as good as a natural suntan. I did get some mood lift (not big) from Semax as well. But overall, I was disappointed by the peptides in general (even though I had high hopes). Glp1's are great, HGH is good also, and just started HCG couple weeks ago, not sure about it yet.
This is 100% vile, I agree. Who tf thinks that this is ok? Oh...this guy apparently. 😒 Throw out the gd needle!
Yea it’s not even worth engaging with.
Thanks for sharing this. i hadn't seen it before. I'm researching low dose Reta to give small nudge to metabolism but thinking of adding a small dose Sema in the mix for added suppression. I assume they can be mixed together since Reta already has GLP-1 co-mingled in it. Does anybody know?
Thanks for the info. Interesting. I noticed improved sleep from Ipamorellin with mod-grf so assuming it does something for me. Same observation regarding pt-141 and melanotan (some years ago so i think it may have been the og version and not the mt-2 version)
You are venturing into research territory. None of us can answer that question, because there are no clinical trials and no established data. All we can say is 'people have used it and they lost weight'- but who is to say they wouldn't have lost weight on just one?
I know a bunch of others have weighed in here… but I wanted to specifically address what’s happening when you do this, and why even alcohol wipes are not going to help much. Even when wiped with alcohol, reusing insulin needles remains unsafe from a medical standpoint. Alcohol reduces surface microbes but does not sterilize; bacteria in deeper skin layers, hair follicles, or airborne contaminants can still enter during injection. Once a needle penetrates the skin, it carries microscopic tissue and bacteria into the syringe and any vial it punctures. The sterile coating is lost after one use, and the metal tip develops microscopic burrs that trap biological material resistant to disinfection. These contaminants can seed bacterial growth in medication vials or subcutaneous tissue, leading to abscesses, cellulitis, or systemic infection. Evidence-based medical practice is unequivocal: insulin needles are single-use devices.
I'm merely saying what I'm doing and I'm not suggesting that others should do the same. Having said that there is so many other things that medical research is against of or they consider it dangerous if used/done yet practically speaking it is totally fine. Case in point using meds post expiry date. I am one of those people that self-medicates. Have over 30 most popular meds in my house and about 1/2 of them have expired and I use them often (some daily). BTW, I have never been sick in my life and have NEVER been to a doctor in my whole adult life. Last I visited a doctor was when my parents took me to one at 14, I'm 59 btw.
This I'm ZERO concerned about (as previously mentioned I'm not suggesting others follow my lead) because if NONE of this has happened for over 2 years that I've started peptides, what makes one think that all of the sudden it will happen now/today. The thing that I'm more concerned about is if the vials may be somewhat compromised/contaminated and lose some of their effectives. The way I look at it if abscesses, cellulites or infections have not happened for over 700 days that I've been doing it this way daily, something tells me that I'll be totally fine for the next 70,000 days (just calculated it to be next 191 years LOL).
Honestly it has absolutely NOTHING to do with money, and you are right the syringes are dirt cheap, plus I'm relatively ok as far as money goes, but I'm cooked this way LOL. If something does not make sense to me, I just go against it and that applies for everything and anything not just meds and syringes. I literally wouldn't give a damn if 1/2 of the world died by reusing the syringes I would still do it lol. It simply one of those things that I couldn't care how many papers or studies were done and concluded one way or the other, I would still NOT consider it to be dangerous to use the same pin more than once into my own body.
This is very interesting now that you put it this way. As an example, I would NOT allow or suggest this to my amazing and beautiful daughter even if the cost of syringes was 50-fold so I guess you do have a point LOL. By same talking I am not and would NOT suggest that anyone reading my posts to do it. I'm simply stating what I'm doing and if anyone does the same and it's working for them that is fine. To me bottom line is whatever you do and works you should keep doing it and not change a thing.
My personal preference would be to NOT mix them together (meaning put them in the same vial or syringe) but I would have no problem pinning them in different days, i.e. couple days apart. As matter of fact, I do Tirze on weekends and run a small boost of Reta mid-week. To be fair, I can't really tell if its more effective this way as opposed to doing Tirze alone. Just experimenting since I have plenty of both in stock LOl.
Right. Who's to say? Just like, "I took the vaccine and I still got ( enter ailment )". Then some people would respond, " Yes, but you would have had worse symptoms if you hadn't got the vaccine". BS
Dude, using expired meds is NOT the same thing as these other practices you've described. Not even in the same galaxy in terms of risk profile.
Exact same. I use the BAC until it’s empty but I would never even CONSIDER reusing an insulin needle.
What Fisherman is going is vile and dangerous. If this forum is really concerned about harm reduction, they should not allow his narrative of reusing needles to perpetuate throughout this place.
Interesting. you guys have managed to actually convince me to only use one needle per day. As per not using same needle to pin myself more than once in the same sitting/day, I'm sorry can't bring myself to accept that, and I'll continue doing it my way. And that has Absolutely nothing to do with the cost and absolutely everything to do with what I consider it to be totally stupid the thinking that a needle that I just pinned myself with right now, will somehow be dangerous to me if I use it again (on myself) after 30 seconds(after I have wiped it with alcohol few more times already). I hope you guys don't take it as me arguing for the sake of arguing, just simply stating that I'm one of those people that will not just do something because other say so, or even science says so. I will NOT change my mind come hell or high water. Just the way I am! Not telling you or anyone to follow my practice nor am I claiming that my way is the best practice. Simply put I'm 100% convinced that my method is 100% risk free for me. Others should absolutely do what makes them comfortable doing and follow professional advice. I'm a financial executive and have Zero medical credentials other than before I take e medication or adapt a certain method i do a lot of research (i place more credence on personal experiences from many "not just one person" that just say science)
The ad hominem here is a bit uncalled for, as I have mentioned more than ten times now that people should not follow my advice. I'm simply telling it how I do it. BTW, I do feel that buying gray from internet, from sources that are 1000's of miles away, and produced in facilities that might have never been inspected (by a reputable government agency) is way more dangerous/risky than using a disinfected needle more than once on myself. Even so I/we seem to be willing to take that risk. to each their own!
This isn't a case of "feels" or comfort. You're quite literally playing Russian Roulette (can we still call it that in 2025?) but the bullets are dangers you can't see and are most certainly just as deadly... only it's far more painful and expensive before you die.
Well, have ZERO experience not only with heroin/drug addiction but any addictions at all. I am very strong willed and have absolutely no problem telling/making myself quit something that I know is dangerous. I used to smoke in very early years and stopped it cold turkey over 30 years ago when I researched and was convinced that smoking was very dangerous for health.
The way I think of it is what may seem like proof to someone may mean nothing to someone else. We are all different and react/behave differently to certain actions and/or even medications. Case in point, many of you/people think that running a marathon is such a great triumph/achievement and for me I swear in Jesus Christ that even if you literally offered me $1Million I would NOT do it, not because I think it is dangerous (thou it is to some degree) but it is so stupid and feeds into the sheep/herd mentality that I can't bring myself to accept/do it. To make the matters worse I consider all those that participate/run a marathon (the ones that are not professional runners or not doing it to professionally compete) as being very stupid people. Same goes for people that do bungy jumping for example. Again, this goes on to show that we are all different, and act/react differently. Hopefully this will ease some of you guys' concerns, or at very least makes you understand/accept my point of view which is to say we are all different and act/react differently. Nothing wrong with that.
