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I’m new to this stuff and it’s a bit overwhelming, is there a beginners guide or something?
 
You're not giving us a lot to work with :-)

If you're trying to understand how GLP1s work then a quick google of GLP1s Beginners Guide will get you the basics.

As you're from the UK I going to make the assumption you've heard about Wegovy and Mounjaro and might already know there's pens you can buy from online pharmacists there. Aside from being a place for general chitchat conversation on GLP1s, on this forum there are a lot of 'vendors' from China who are basically selling more or less the same drugs (Semaglutide and Tirzepatide respectively) as the pharmacies in the UK. The difference being of course that they are much much cheaper.

In my opinion (and I'm sure many agree) is that a newbie should start on Tirzepatide (Mounjaro) because it tends to have the least side effects, is very effective and is currently being used by millions of people globally. A starter dose is 2.5mg per week, but please Google dosages yourself (of any drug).

If this is your first time taking any GLP1 drug I'd highly recommend you use a legit local source in the UK first. You can buy a months supply of the starter dose legit for like £120 - there's plenty of info on this sub reddit on best / cheapest legit sources in the UK. https://www.reddit.com/r/mounjarouk/

For the grey market... you can find the vendor section here https://glp1forum.com/forums/vendors/ - you can search for trusted vendors around the forum, spend some time doing this as some are more newbie friendly than others (take Paypal, better customer service, but charge more).

It's worth noting that the Chinese vendors will quote something like 'Tirzepatide 30mg' this means that they will send you 10 (yes 10) 30mg doses of the drug in powder form in vials.

One 30mg vial of Tirzepatide is equivalent to one 7.5mg Mounjaro Pen from a UK chemist, because the Mounjaro pen contains 4 doses (and 4 x 7.5mg = 30mg)

Basically a seller advertising 'Tirzepatide 30mg' is giving you the equivalent of 10 x 7.5mg Mounjaro pens.

Because the drug arrives in powdered format you'll need to 'reconstitute' it into a liquid by adding bacteriostatic water into the vial. You'll also need needle syringes to do this and to inject yourself. You'll need to buy this bac water and needles separately, I got my supplies from Amazon... but there might be cheaper places (Insulin needles are very common). Again search on this forum for 'reconstitution' or Google reconstituting peptides, it's not a difficult process.

Postage from China can take 2 weeks to a month (hence maybe you want to test the water first with a legit UK Pharmacy). The vendors post frequent testing results to prove their drugs are pure and of course individuals on this forum frequently test the drugs they receive and post their own personal results. I think it's fair to say most people on here find the whole process safe and relatively risk free, but everyone reacts differently to different drugs and of course there is always a little bit of risk when buying from a completely unknown entity in a different country.

Hopefully this is enough to go on to start - if not ask more specific questions :p
 
You're not giving us a lot to work with :-)

If you're trying to understand how GLP1s work then a quick google of GLP1s Beginners Guide will get you the basics.

As you're from the UK I going to make the assumption you've heard about Wegovy and Mounjaro and might already know there's pens you can buy from online pharmacists there. Aside from being a place for general chitchat conversation on GLP1s, on this forum there are a lot of 'vendors' from China who are basically selling more or less the same drugs (Semaglutide and Tirzepatide respectively) as the pharmacies in the UK. The difference being of course that they are much much cheaper.

In my opinion (and I'm sure many agree) is that a newbie should start on Tirzepatide (Mounjaro) because it tends to have the least side effects, is very effective and is currently being used by millions of people globally. A starter dose is 2.5mg per week, but please Google dosages yourself (of any drug).

If this is your first time taking any GLP1 drug I'd highly recommend you use a legit local source in the UK first. You can buy a months supply of the starter dose legit for like £120 - there's plenty of info on this sub reddit on best / cheapest legit sources in the UK. https://www.reddit.com/r/mounjarouk/

For the grey market... you can find the vendor section here https://glp1forum.com/forums/vendors/ - you can search for trusted vendors around the forum, spend some time doing this as some are more newbie friendly than others (take Paypal, better customer service, but charge more).

It's worth noting that the Chinese vendors will quote something like 'Tirzepatide 30mg' this means that they will send you 10 (yes 10) 30mg doses of the drug in powder form in vials.

One 30mg vial of Tirzepatide is equivalent to one 7.5mg Mounjaro Pen from a UK chemist, because the Mounjaro pen contains 4 doses (and 4 x 7.5mg = 30mg)

Basically a seller advertising 'Tirzepatide 30mg' is giving you the equivalent of 10 x 7.5mg Mounjaro pens.

Because the drug arrives in powdered format you'll need to 'reconstitute' it into a liquid by adding bacteriostatic water into the vial. You'll also need needle syringes to do this and to inject yourself. You'll need to buy this bac water and needles separately, I got my supplies from Amazon... but there might be cheaper places (Insulin needles are very common). Again search on this forum for 'reconstitution' or Google reconstituting peptides, it's not a difficult process.

Postage from China can take 2 weeks to a month (hence maybe you want to test the water first with a legit UK Pharmacy). The vendors post frequent testing results to prove their drugs are pure and of course individuals on this forum frequently test the drugs they receive and post their own personal results. I think it's fair to say most people on here find the whole process safe and relatively risk free, but everyone reacts differently to different drugs and of course there is always a little bit of risk when buying from a completely unknown entity in a different country.

Hopefully this is enough to go on to start - if not ask more specific questions :p

Apologies for not being for being more specific. Thank you for this information it’s very helpful.

I don’t think I can get any GLP1 through legit means in the UK because my BMI is overweight rather than obese. Or is it easy to just lie?
 
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Apologies for not being for being more specific. Thank you for this information it’s very helpful.

I don’t think I can any GLP1 through legit means in the UK because my BMI is overweight rather than obese. Or is it easy to just lie?

No worries :)

It is easy to lie, but some of them will ask you to take pictures of yourself on your phone to prove you are obese so if you even close to 30.0 BMI you might get away with exaggerating a bit. I originally got supplies from webmedpharmacy.co.uk who didn't ask me for a photo, just to fill in the questionnaire - I was legit just over 30 BMI though. I tried to get from a cheaper place and they asked for photos and rejected me for not looking fat enough... (which was maybe fair as I work out quite a bit so have muscle weight)

Of course you could go straight to black market, but one of the reasons I'm saying go legit first is you'll know what the real thing feels like to compare to how you feel on the Chinese stuff which might be reassuring if you start to feel any sort of side effects (for me it was exactly the same between legit and Chinese, no side effects).
 
No worries :)

It is easy to lie, but some of them will ask you to take pictures of yourself on your phone to prove you are obese so if you even close to 30.0 BMI you might get away with exaggerating a bit. I originally got supplies from webmedpharmacy.co.uk who didn't ask me for a photo, just to fill in the questionnaire - I was legit just over 30 BMI though. I tried to get from a cheaper place and they asked for photos and rejected me for not looking fat enough... (which was maybe fair as I work out quite a bit so have muscle weight)

Of course you could go straight to black market, but one of the reasons I'm saying go legit first is you'll know what the real thing feels like to compare to how you feel on the Chinese stuff which might be reassuring if you start to feel any sort of side effects (for me it was exactly the same between legit and Chinese, no side effects).

I see, thank you. Are there differences in the storage requirements between black market v legit? Thanks again.
 
Both you need to store in the fridge in liquid form, the official guidance for the legit stuff is it's fine outside of the fridge for up to 30 days. They post it from online pharmacies with an ice pack. The Chinese stuff comes in powder which is fine to store at room temperature for months (but can be put in the freezer for longer term), but once reconstituted with bac water you need to store in the fridge (and not freezer!), same as legit stuff.
 
So could I get away without using a fridge if I just reconstitute a small amount at a time? I live with others and would rather keep my use private. Of course I could buy a mini fridge but if I don’t need one I’d rather save the money. Thanks😊😊
 
So could I get away without using a fridge if I just reconstitute a small amount at a time? I live with others and would rather keep my use private. Of course I could buy a mini fridge but if I don’t need one I’d rather save the money. Thanks😊😊
You need a fridge. When you are starting out, your doses will be small, which means there will be several in one vial. You need to refrigerate the vial of liquid after it has been first punctured if you plan on using the same vial for weeks. As you get to a higher dose, say 10mg, you could just buy vials in that size and reconstitute a fresh one every week. However, it will cost more to buy lower dose vials. It saves to buy in bulk, as usual.
 
So could I get away without using a fridge if I just reconstitute a small amount at a time? I live with others and would rather keep my use private. Of course I could buy a mini fridge but if I don’t need one I’d rather save the money. Thanks😊😊
Look for a 'personal fridge' they're usually meant to only hold a few cans of soda. They go as low as $30 that I've seen. 'Skincare fridge' would also work.
 
So could I get away without using a fridge if I just reconstitute a small amount at a time? I live with others and would rather keep my use private. Of course I could buy a mini fridge but if I don’t need one I’d rather save the money. Thanks😊😊
I’d buy the fridge. I see them cheap on facebook marketplace. If you have a local community face book “free” page, you could do an “in search of”(ISO)post. They aren’t that expensive either way, but try to get one free. You don’t need the bigger size dorm type “mini fridge”. These ones are for cans and usually say pepsi or something on the door. I’ll attach an image. cheap but effective and gives you peace of mind . I’ll attach a picture. Hope this helps!🙂
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