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I missed Black Friday promos! Gyc/John just asked me to be patient hmmmm
A lot got published today and yesterdayI missed Black Friday promos! Gyc/John just asked me to be patient hmmmm
Qsc is good, the rest are mehI missed Black Friday promos! Gyc/John just asked me to be patient hmmmm
No fr🤣was trying to see what gyc were doing but qsc finally responded and gave me a total amount. Not sure if it'll piss Tracy off for sending me total after I cancel one other time before. Asc looks good but I need a split to make 399 free shippingWhere's all the Christmas promos?
Santa has the sulfur burps right now and is a little slow getting the promos out.
Just received total for my orderQsc is good, the rest are meh
I'm 100% certain that the real sales person looks exactly like that.View attachment 4490
The little Santa hat is perfection
A lot of the things tracy listed are old, degraded, or contaminated things he couldn't sell all year.Qsc is good, the rest are meh
He's taking the trash out. That purity test for the CJC no DAC..... yuck. Not great numbers on some of the other stuff either. I'm tempted to pick up some of the Tesa/Ipa and BPC/TB4 but I'm just not sold on acting on that temptation after looking at some of the Jano reportsA lot of the things tracy listed are old, degraded, or contaminated things he couldn't sell all year.
Very trueI have learned you can negotiate with the majority of vendors to price match. Some will even beat a price if you provide them proof. If you have a preferred supplier who has proven themselves to you, it is worth asking. I feel like they respond well to loyalty of return customers.
GYC: After a review of all the facts and careful consideration, we have decided to remove GYC from our server and add a warning to their entry on our vendor spreadsheet.Are GYC rated? - i havent seen many reviews.
But yeah I paid $380 for 2 x T30 in QSC's Black Friday sale and it hasn't arrived yet. I'm looking at that $290 for T60 from GYC at this point and tempted to hedge my bets... as I've got about 6 weeks supply left.
Whoa! Thank you for sharing for those of us not on that forumGYC: After a review of all the facts and careful consideration, we have decided to remove GYC from our server and add a warning to their entry on our vendor spreadsheet.
One of the members of this community placed an order with John at GYC, then cancelled it shortly thereafter. John confirmed the cancellation, and no payment was made. A few weeks later, the order arrived at the customer’s house. In the interest of being honest, the customer contacted John to let him know they received the cancelled order. John confirmed again that the order had been cancelled and was sent by mistake.
John then asked the customer to pay for the delivered products. The customer declined, feeling this was unfair since it was GYC’s mistake to send the order. John agreed, and asked if the customer would be willing to ship the order back to GYC, at GYC’s expense. The customer told John they were uncomfortable with the products being resold to another customer after being in their possession. John assured the customer GYC would not resell the products. The customer agreed to ship the products back to GYC at GYC’s expense.
John then sent the customer a name and address to send just one of the five products to. At this point, the customer contacted the TirzHelp mod team because they suspected they were being asked to ship the product directly to another customer, despite being assured GYC would not resell the products. While we were reviewing the situation, John sent the customer two more names and addresses to send additional portions of the order to.
We reached out to John on behalf of the customer and let him know it was not appropriate to give customer information to another customer and ask them to reship products. We told him the customer would be willing to send all of the products to one GYC address in the US. The total value of the order was ~$450.
John sent the customer one address to send all of the products to and assured them the recipient is not another customer. The products have been shipped.
While we recognize that GYC has developed a strong reputation in the community until now, we feel this situation warrants removal from the TirzHelp server and a warning for the following reasons:
⁃ Divulging customer information to another customer is a major breach of trust and privacy.
⁃ Selling products that have been in the possession of a customer to another customer is a major breach of basic quality control and safety. While the customer in this situation would never do something nefarious, GYC would have no way to verify that the products received by the end customer were not tampered with or replaced with completely different products.
⁃ Asking a customer to redistribute gray market products places undue risks on the customer.
We will always put the safety and well-being of this community first, even if it means losing one of our vendors. Sharing information and experiences is the most powerful tool we have to hold vendors accountable and protect the community against unsafe and untrustworthy business practices.
As always, please continue to be kind, we are all in this together.
⁃ TirzHelp Mod Team
I've ordered with themAre GYC rated? - i havent seen many reviews.
But yeah I paid $380 for 2 x T30 in QSC's Black Friday sale and it hasn't arrived yet. I'm looking at that $290 for T60 from GYC at this point and tempted to hedge my bets... as I've got about 6 weeks supply left.
My only issue with that scenario is possibly giving one customer's address to another.GYC: After a review of all the facts and careful consideration, we have decided to remove GYC from our server and add a warning to their entry on our vendor spreadsheet.
One of the members of this community placed an order with John at GYC, then cancelled it shortly thereafter. John confirmed the cancellation, and no payment was made. A few weeks later, the order arrived at the customer’s house. In the interest of being honest, the customer contacted John to let him know they received the cancelled order. John confirmed again that the order had been cancelled and was sent by mistake.
John then asked the customer to pay for the delivered products. The customer declined, feeling this was unfair since it was GYC’s mistake to send the order. John agreed, and asked if the customer would be willing to ship the order back to GYC, at GYC’s expense. The customer told John they were uncomfortable with the products being resold to another customer after being in their possession. John assured the customer GYC would not resell the products. The customer agreed to ship the products back to GYC at GYC’s expense.
John then sent the customer a name and address to send just one of the five products to. At this point, the customer contacted the TirzHelp mod team because they suspected they were being asked to ship the product directly to another customer, despite being assured GYC would not resell the products. While we were reviewing the situation, John sent the customer two more names and addresses to send additional portions of the order to.
We reached out to John on behalf of the customer and let him know it was not appropriate to give customer information to another customer and ask them to reship products. We told him the customer would be willing to send all of the products to one GYC address in the US. The total value of the order was ~$450.
John sent the customer one address to send all of the products to and assured them the recipient is not another customer. The products have been shipped.
While we recognize that GYC has developed a strong reputation in the community until now, we feel this situation warrants removal from the TirzHelp server and a warning for the following reasons:
⁃ Divulging customer information to another customer is a major breach of trust and privacy.
⁃ Selling products that have been in the possession of a customer to another customer is a major breach of basic quality control and safety. While the customer in this situation would never do something nefarious, GYC would have no way to verify that the products received by the end customer were not tampered with or replaced with completely different products.
⁃ Asking a customer to redistribute gray market products places undue risks on the customer.
We will always put the safety and well-being of this community first, even if it means losing one of our vendors. Sharing information and experiences is the most powerful tool we have to hold vendors accountable and protect the community against unsafe and untrustworthy business practices.
As always, please continue to be kind, we are all in this together.
⁃ TirzHelp Mod Team
Agreed. Otherwise, I think it was handled quite well? I guess we also don't know for sure that they were being asked to re-distribute the order to other customers, it's just speculation.My only issue with that scenario is possibly giving one customer's address to another.
Just a theory, so keep that in mind, but I've long suspected QSC uses blends to hide low bad/low purity raws since purity can't be measured in a Jano test for a blend.He's taking the trash out. That purity test for the CJC no DAC..... yuck. Not great numbers on some of the other stuff either. I'm tempted to pick up some of the Tesa/Ipa and BPC/TB4 but I'm just not sold on acting on that temptation after looking at some of the Jano reports
Can you explain this more? What is a blend and why can't it be tested?Just a theory, so keep that in mind, but I've long suspected QSC uses blends to hide low bad/low purity raws since purity can't be measured in a Jano test for a blend.
Ok I never thought about this one.I have learned you can negotiate with the majority of vendors to price match. Some will even beat a price if you provide them proof. If you have a preferred supplier who has proven themselves to you, it is worth asking. I feel like they respond well to loyalty of return customers.
Frl I'm gonna order from them anyway, I don't really mind as long as I get a good product tbh. They usually offer good CS, better than most vendors and the third party tests look good with some overfill.
At 300$ for 30mg reta it's a banger in my book
A blend is 2 peptides in the same vial. CJC/Ipa is a common blend. But purity can't be measured in a blend, only mass. The why has to do with how the purity is measured, I wouldn't do the explanation justice because I'm not a chemist.Can you explain this more? What is a blend and why can't it be tested?
My only issue with that scenario is possibly giving one customer's address to another.
Agreed. Otherwise, I think it was handled quite well? I guess we also don't know for sure that they were being asked to re-distribute the order to other customers, it's just speculation.
Given this is the first time I've ever heard a complaint about GYC, it does seem a bit extreme to remove them from a vendor list, as opposed to issuing a warning.
pffft, i'd have no issue with you having my address! you can come over and we'll dance to taylor swift! 😂I feel like this was handled terribly and the community lucked out that the initial buyer was a decent person.
If you need help imagining how bad this all is, just replace the initial buyer with me in this story. Do you want me having your address? I barely want me having my own address. GYC 100% should of just said, "our mistake, happy holidays and enjoy your free peptides." Instead, they turned a buyer into a supplier.
Also, beyond that, would you feel safe if you unknowingly got some vials of peps that made a detour at my house first?
Am I overreacting here?
Blends can be tested, just not for purity. You only get the mass of each compound.Can you explain this more? What is a blend and why can't it be tested?
I said that was the part that bothered me. But I also buy and trade from other people often. I know other people aren't comfortable with that. Its definitely not ideal and they should be warned not to do something like that again. I don't think I'm goin to write them off over this incident.I feel like this was handled terribly and the community lucked out that the initial buyer was a decent person.
If you need help imagining how bad this all is, just replace the initial buyer with me in this story. Do you want me having your address? I barely want me having my own address. GYC 100% should of just said, "our mistake, happy holidays and enjoy your free peptides." Instead, they turned a buyer into a supplier.
Also, beyond that, would you feel safe if you unknowingly got some vials of peps that made a detour at my house first?
Am I overreacting here?
I'm concerned with the legal implications of having one customer send this another.My only issue with that scenario is possibly giving one customer's address to another.
sure, but they can't really make them do it. it was a fuck up and they should be warned, I just don't think it was egregious unless they do it again.I'm concerned with the legal implications of having one customer send this another.
It is outrageous behavior because it compromises the anonymity of buyers and exposes the consumer shipping the item to legal consequences. If Tirzhelp talks to GYC and is convinced that they'll behave differently in the future, perhaps reinstating GYC at some point in the future would be warranted.Agreed. Otherwise, I think it was handled quite well? I guess we also don't know for sure that they were being asked to re-distribute the order to other customers, it's just speculation.
Given this is the first time I've ever heard a complaint about GYC, it does seem a bit extreme to remove them from a vendor list, as opposed to issuing a warning.
it only exposes the consumer shipping the item if the consumer chooses to ship it to the other consumers - which they can (and did) say no to. i don't know if i'd go so far as to say it's outrageous. it seems like an isolated incident - one that i don't want to see repeated, but not one that gravely concerns me.It is outrageous behavior because it compromises the anonymity of buyers and exposes the consumer shipping the item to legal consequences. If Tirzhelp talks to GYC and is convinced that they'll behave differently in the future, perhaps reinstating GYC at some point in the future would be warranted.
That is fair, I may not care a lot because I'm Canadian and would spot that sort of thing right away, but I can see how it could've gone worse.I feel like this was handled terribly and the community lucked out that the initial buyer was a decent person.
If you need help imagining how bad this all is, just replace the initial buyer with me in this story. Do you want me having your address? I barely want me having my own address. GYC 100% should of just said, "our mistake, happy holidays and enjoy your free peptides." Instead, they turned a buyer into a supplier.
Also, beyond that, would you feel safe if you unknowingly got some vials of peps that made a detour at my house first?
Am I overreacting here?
"why is my order coming from some random post office in red deer?"That is fair, I may not care a lot because I'm Canadian and would spot that sort of thing right away, but I can see how it could've gone worse.
Right lol"why is my order coming from some random post office in red deer?"