Zero Tirzepatide I was Scammed

[Tirzmonkey]

Ordered 5 kits of TR-10 from a company I found on the GlobalSources app. Haber Industrial. 300 dollars. They shipped and everything seemed professional and straight up until I got the test results today.

I know you guys don’t like the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk or Krause Labs but that is where I got the COA from. Zero Tirzepatide. Do I send another vial to a different testing company and, if so, which one. I am already out another 120 for testing.

It gets worse. I ordered two kits of TR-60 which came FEDEX and was labeled entirely differently. Meaning different labels and containers etc like it came from a different supplier. Do I test that or consider it all a loss. That was 381 dollars.

I feel stupid. Certainly won’t make that mistake again but wow.

 

[blueandazure]

Should try to find a group who used/uses this company and get a group test going with Jano. I would never buy from a company that ever had a 0 unit result. So people might be interested.

 

[Tirzmonkey]

Should try to find a group who used/uses this company and get a group test going with Jano. I would never buy from a company that ever had a 0 unit result. So people might be interested.

I did this before I found this forum. Moving from compounded to Grey and I rushed into it. It is what it is.

 

[BNLFL]

Have a link to where you bought it? I'd love to take a peak.

 

[Chili777]

I'm not sure I'd take any of it, but Krause is a bottom of the barrel lab, too. They found zero Tirz recently and a Jano test showed it was the real deal. Search Kraus here and you'll find the thread. They also refused to take down the bogus test. It's hard to know with unknown vendors as to whether you want to take that chance and see how you respond. Your call.

 

[Tirzmonkey]

I'm not sure I'd take any of it, but Krause is a bottom of the barrel lab, too. They found zero Tirz recently and a Jano test showed it was the real deal. Search Kraus here and you'll find the thread. They also refused to take down the bogus test. It's hard to know with unknown vendors as to whether you want to take that chance and see how you respond. Your call.

Any idea who to send a second vial to? I have heard Freedom Labs is good and relatively inexpensive or would you stick with Janoshik?

 

[Tirzmonkey]

I'm not sure I'd take any of it, but Krause is a bottom of the barrel lab, too. They found zero Tirz recently and a Jano test showed it was the real deal. Search Kraus here and you'll find the thread. They also refused to take down the bogus test. It's hard to know with unknown vendors as to whether you want to take that chance and see how you respond. Your call.

It also strikes me that it’s a lot for a vendor to go through to complete a scam. Why not just keep the money and ghost me? It’s bizarre.

 

[Chili777]

It also strikes me that it’s a lot for a vendor to go through to complete a scam. Why not just keep the money and ghost me? It’s bizarre.

Mistakes like mislabeled vials do happen and Reta has been swapped for Tirz by mistake at otherwise decent vendors. It doesn't make sense to send you zero peps. It has happened, but usually with large scale group buys as an exit scam when it does, not personal buyers. The issue is you have no way of knowing with a Krause COA. You got the worst of all lab draws that Finnrisk uses.

 

[cloratheshadow]

I would just test with janoshik. Like someone else said there was recently a similar finding of 0% on vials tested through Krause. It’s definitely weird to send vials at all if it’s a scam.

 

[Chili777]

Any idea who to send a second vial to? I have heard Freedom Labs is good and relatively inexpensive or would you stick with Janoshik?

Freedom, Chromate and BT Labs are all better than Krause. Jano would take a lot longer with his current workload and is more expensive, but he is considered the authority right now

 

[BNLFL]

I'm not sure I'd take any of it, but Krause is a bottom of the barrel lab, too. They found zero Tirz recently and a Jano test showed it was the real deal. Search Kraus here and you'll find the thread. They also refused to take down the bogus test. It's hard to know with unknown vendors as to whether you want to take that chance and see how you respond. Your call.

Wasn't that Uther stuff?

 

[Chili777]

Wasn't that Uther stuff?

Yes, Uther T60.

 

[Tirzmonkey]

I would just test with janoshik. Like someone else said there was recently a similar finding of 0% on vials tested through Krause. It’s definitely weird to send vials at all if it’s a scam.

Exactly, as cheap as it is wholesale it seems like it would actually be MORE trouble than sending the real thing.

 

[Tirzmonkey]

Looks like Freedom will identify the peptide whereas Krause just said it was not Tirzepatide. I will spend the money and have it retested. Apparently I am am idiot so why not just continue spending money. I am curious to know what it is now.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Ordered 5 kits of TR-10 from a company I found on the GlobalSources app. Haber Industrial. 300 dollars. They shipped and everything seemed professional and straight up until I got the test results today.

I know you guys don’t like the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk or Krause Labs but that is where I got the COA from. Zero Tirzepatide. Do I send another vial to a different testing company and, if so, which one. I am already out another 120 for testing.

It gets worse. I ordered two kits of TR-60 which came FEDEX and was labeled entirely differently. Meaning different labels and containers etc like it came from a different supplier. Do I test that or consider it all a loss. That was 381 dollars.

I feel stupid. Certainly won’t make that mistake again but wow.

Id test the t60 for sure, it may be fine. We had vendors maybe a year or so had 0% tirz or something like 1.67mg..... it was only the tirz 30... so the other strength ones were fine (im not sure it was the t30, it might have been t15, but you get the point. If the t10 was shit, the t60 may be fine even if it was same supplier. Whatd you pay? At least 160 for a t60 kit? If it was dirt cheap like 70 bucks its likely just filler.

 

[Tirzmonkey]

Id test the t60 for sure, it may be fine. We had vendors maybe a year or so had 0% tirz or something like 1.67mg..... it was only the tirz 30... so the other strength ones were fine (im not sure it was the t30, it might have been t15, but you get the point. If the t10 was shit, the t60 may be fine even if it was same supplier. Whatd you pay? At least 160 for a t60 kit? If it was dirt cheap like 70 bucks its likely just filler.

It was 380 for 2 kits. I guess if they can get someone twice like they did me it might be worth it to send fake product but as I said as cheap as it is it wholesale it almost seems to be more trouble than it’s worth

 

[Airborne Daddy]

It was 380 for 2 kits. I guess if they can get someone twice like they did me it might be worth it to send fake product but as I said as cheap as it is it wholesale it almost seems to be more trouble than it’s worth

Like others said selling fake is only gonna save them a buck or two a kit. That price is going rate and not absurdly low so if i didnt test it id pin it two weeks and see if you get suppression. Personally id pin 15mg but ive been on a yearish and usually pin 15mg unless i run reta with it than a lower dose. If youve never done it dont start high, started my wife with 3mg for a month and now shes at 6mg down 25lbs in 10weeks. Starting dose is 2.5 but i like increments of 3....

 

[Tirzmonkey]

Like others said selling fake is only gonna save them a buck or two a kit. That price is going rate and not absurdly low so if i didnt test it id pin it two weeks and see if you get suppression. Personally id pin 15mg but ive been on a yearish and usually pin 15mg unless i run reta with it than a lower dose. If youve never done it dont start high, started my wife with 3mg for a month and now shes at 6mg down 25lbs in 10weeks. Starting dose is 2.5 but i like increments of 3....

I will do that I have been on 10mg since March after switching over from the max dose of Wegovy. Thank you for responding I mean none of this is the end of the world but yeah it sucks

 

[endlrls]

Ordered 5 kits of TR-10 from a company I found on the GlobalSources app. Haber Industrial. 300 dollars. They shipped and everything seemed professional and straight up until I got the test results today.

I know you guys don’t like the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk or Krause Labs but that is where I got the COA from. Zero Tirzepatide. Do I send another vial to a different testing company and, if so, which one. I am already out another 120 for testing.

It gets worse. I ordered two kits of TR-60 which came FEDEX and was labeled entirely differently. Meaning different labels and containers etc like it came from a different supplier. Do I test that or consider it all a loss. That was 381 dollars.

I feel stupid. Certainly won’t make that mistake again but wow.

That sucks mate, like you said lesson learned. Welcome to the club here... you are in good hands here. Very knowledgeable people on this board.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I will do that I have been on 10mg since March after switching over from the max dose of Wegovy. Thank you for responding I mean none of this is the end of the world but yeah it sucks

Well thats good and you know what to expect at that dose. But id give it at least 2 weeks cuz i still do a pin and i literally get little to no suppression and im starving, the next pin im disgusted by my favorite foods for 4 days. Weird.

 

[Tirzmonkey]

Well thats good and you know what to expect at that dose. But id give it at least 2 weeks cuz i still do a pin and i literally get little to no suppression and im starving, the next pin im disgusted by my favorite foods for 4 days. Weird.

I am nearly certain that this vendor is acting as a middle man. The first shipment definitely came from a different supplier than the second. If the TR-60s are good that is the majority of my stockpile. Worth a shot.

I also sent a message to the vendor we will see what kind of response I get if any.

 

[Chili777]

I am nearly certain that this vendor is acting as a middle man. The first shipment definitely came from a different supplier than the second. If the TR-60s are good that is the majority of my stockpile. Worth a shot.

I also sent a message to the vendor we will see what kind of response I get if any.

That would make them a drop shipper. They sell whatever they get, wherever they can get it from. What really sucks is that there have been a lot of zero peps reported recently, and many have been Tirz. But with Krause as the testing lab, to me it's a coin flip.

 

[BlueDog55]

Please update after you re-test.

 

[byefatlicia]

Ordered 5 kits of TR-10 from a company I found on the GlobalSources app. Haber Industrial. 300 dollars. They shipped and everything seemed professional and straight up until I got the test results today.

I know you guys don’t like the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk or Krause Labs but that is where I got the COA from. Zero Tirzepatide. Do I send another vial to a different testing company and, if so, which one. I am already out another 120 for testing.

It gets worse. I ordered two kits of TR-60 which came FEDEX and was labeled entirely differently. Meaning different labels and containers etc like it came from a different supplier. Do I test that or consider it all a loss. That was 381 dollars.

I feel stupid. Certainly won’t make that mistake again but wow.

Wow, this is a tough call. Spend $300 more for a maybe? or count it as a loss and spend $300 on a vendor with a better track record... If it were me, I'd shit can em and not throw any more money at it.

 

[Tirzmonkey]

Not sure if this would be considered good news or not but the vendor admitted there may have been a mislabeling and has agreed to reship. The exact quote:

“Dear friend, I'm so sorry for this situation. After checking, our product is fine. The product you received may be due to a batch issue or an incorrect label. I will now resend you the product. Is that alright?”

Sort of like admitting you were wrong without admitting you were wrong. They are definitely a drop shipper and I think they got stuck in the middle of shipping a mislabeled product.

As I have said. Lesson learned. Let’s see how this ends.

 

[Powerslide]

It sounds like you have taken some from different sources so you should have an idea of what it feels like. Pin it, if no sides, pin it again and after two weeks you should know if its legit or not without spending additional on testing

 

[Tirzmonkey]

It sounds like you have taken some from different sources so you should have an idea of what it feels like. Pin it, if no sides, pin it again and after two weeks you should know if its legit or not without spending additional on testing

I am going to reconstitute a 60mg vial from the same vendor (although probably NOT the same manufacturer) on my shot day this week. Yes I know what it is supposed to feel like and I did use one of the vials in question (just one) a few weeks ago and I remember being hungry lol. No side effects though but I have no idea what I pinned.