Day 3 of Selank and blown away

My NA Selank just arrived. I think I'm going to recon to 300 mcg as a starting dose. Just wondering about any personal experiences. I know @Zydeceltico has been researching it (hopefully earlier in the day) I'm looking to see how that's been working out. NA-ACYTEL Selank

Amidate is also known as Adalank which considered experimental, but that's what I'm here for. The protocols I have found recommend a 1-2 week cycle followed by a 1 week washout, so an off/on cycle.
 
Chili777 said:
My NA Selank just arrived. I think I'm going to recon to 300 mcg as a starting dose. Just wondering about any personal experiences. I know @Zydeceltico has been researching it (hopefully earlier in the day) I'm looking to see how that's been working out. NA-ACYTEL Selank

Amidate is also known as Adalank which considered experimental, but that's what I'm here for. The protocols I have found recommend a 1-2 week cycle followed by a 1 week washout, so an off/on cycle.
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I am away on a trip and babying the Selank I have. I was supposed to have a new shipment but USPS had many issues delaying it over an week and it arrived after we left. I had to pull back to 200mcg/day and it is holding ok. I’m looking forward to getting back and resuming full doseage for the cycle.
 
Chili777 said:
My NA Selank just arrived. I think I'm going to recon to 300 mcg as a starting dose. Just wondering about any personal experiences. I know @Zydeceltico has been researching it (hopefully earlier in the day) I'm looking to see how that's been working out. NA-ACYTEL Selank

Amidate is also known as Adalank which considered experimental, but that's what I'm here for. The protocols I have found recommend a 1-2 week cycle followed by a 1 week washout, so an off/on cycle.
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So..... I have been dosing earlier in the day and - - - nothing really to report with NA Semax. I think something is happening but not sure what and don't know how to describe it and I currently don't find it useful whatever the effect is. Just different.

NA Selank...... effect is substantially stronger for me than Semax. However, still not finding a pragmatic use for the effect of which I am also at a loss to describe. Sort of an even-ing out of mental openess I guess. Sounds more interesting than I actually find it. Maybe I'm not anxious enough or ADHD enough to benefit? Possibly?

Maybe I'm already more zen than I realize? LOL

I currently don't see a great reason to continue dosing. YMMV
 
Chili777 said:
Exactly. After all the checking I've done, I'm not going to worry about it anymore. Next cycle will be with NA Semax and I'm looking forward to it. I did read that the effects last 8-10 hours, instead of 2-3, so I just hope it doesn't effect my sleep.
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Yes I'm also ordering the NA, excited to test the diffrence
 
Zydeceltico said:
guess. Sounds more interesting than I actually find it. Maybe I'm not anxious enough or ADHD enough to benefit? Possibly?

Maybe I'm already more zen than I realize? LOL

I currently don't see a great reason to continue dosing. YMMV
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That has been my take away after reading folks individual experiences. Either it is very impactful or meh. For folks who have a heightened anxiety response it mediates that response gating factor. If anxiety response wasn't a problem before then most likely won't see an impact.
 
Chili777 said:
You went with BAC? If so, you might be one of the lucky ones that don't get fried sinuses. I might put one ML in there and the rest saline to test, but my sprays have had no cloudiness or floaters when used in a month. I check them under a strong light before every use.
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I just started Selank IN earlier today. I was so used to adding BAC to everything so I inadvertently added 1ml of BAC before I realized my mistake. I added another 9ml of saline after that. A few hours later, my sinuses feel dried out from the added BAC, lesson learned! 🙄

I decided to try Selank based on research and this thread has also given me hope that it may be able to help depression, anxiety and negative thoughts brought on by recurring flashbacks as a result of childhood trauma and abuse. I guess I have something in common with @pddz9.

I did notice I felt more mellow a couple of hours after first application. I got a little sleepy and ended up taking a much needed nap (history of insomnia). I'm hoping Selank will yield positive results.
 
Zydeceltico said:
So..... I have been dosing earlier in the day and - - - nothing really to report with NA Semax. I think something is happening but not sure what and don't know how to describe it and I currently don't find it useful whatever the effect is. Just different.

NA Selank...... effect is substantially stronger for me than Semax. However, still not finding a pragmatic use for the effect of which I am also at a loss to describe. Sort of an even-ing out of mental openess I guess. Sounds more interesting than I actually find it. Maybe I'm not anxious enough or ADHD enough to benefit? Possibly?

Maybe I'm already more zen than I realize? LOL

I currently don't see a great reason to continue dosing. YMMV
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Interesting. Everyone is different, but I'm wondering if the 20-day cycle I did with Epitalon helped prime me for the effects of Semax and Selank, or if my old brain was so BDNF-deprived that I'm just soaking it up like a sponge? I've read that Epitalon is like tuning up the engine and Semax is giving it the gas.

I made the 300 mcg Adalank (N-Acetyl Selank Amadate) spray yesterday and tried is and I can feel a distinct difference from Semax. It's more subtle but no less pleasant to me than Semax. I'll keep both in my tool kit.
 
I had zero affect from subq shots of either. I might try the nasal spray next time since that is the only route that seems to have a higher rate of success.
 
Zydeceltico said:
So..... I have been dosing earlier in the day and - - - nothing really to report with NA Semax. I think something is happening but not sure what and don't know how to describe it and I currently don't find it useful whatever the effect is. Just different.

NA Selank...... effect is substantially stronger for me than Semax. However, still not finding a pragmatic use for the effect of which I am also at a loss to describe. Sort of an even-ing out of mental openess I guess. Sounds more interesting than I actually find it. Maybe I'm not anxious enough or ADHD enough to benefit? Possibly?

Maybe I'm already more zen than I realize? LOL

I currently don't see a great reason to continue dosing. YMMV
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I also had a feeling I couldn't quite describe, and didn't really like, when I tried taking Semax and Selank regularly.

However, Semax is known to wake you up and help your mind feel clearer when you didn't get enough sleep, without feeling like a stimulant. It makes me feel like a human instead of a zombie, when I take it for that.
 
It's definitely different, but I kind of like that. I can feel the mood lift from the Adalank and I'll take that anytime. But after all these Russian peps, I have a hankering for some Borscht and cabbage rolls so may be that will be it for a while. 😆 Oh yeah, cerebrolysin is on the way. Dasvidaniya!
 
CMA Pooky said:
I just started Selank IN earlier today. I was so used to adding BAC to everything so I inadvertently added 1ml of BAC before I realized my mistake. I added another 9ml of saline after that. A few hours later, my sinuses feel dried out from the added BAC, lesson learned! 🙄

I decided to try Selank based on research and this thread has also given me hope that it may be able to help depression, anxiety and negative thoughts brought on by recurring flashbacks as a result of childhood trauma and abuse. I guess I have something in common with @pddz9.

I did notice I felt more mellow a couple of hours after first application. I got a little sleepy and ended up taking a much needed nap (history of insomnia). I'm hoping Selank will yield positive results.
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I just recieved my NA Selank Spray i'm testing it tomorrow and will report what it did for me
 
i did two pumps but didn't feel anything maybe i will try four
 
pddz9 said:
uhm thats a good question, i have a 10ml bottle and injected 10mg NA-Selank into it, what i read is that one pump should be 100mcg
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I tried with regular Selank, same dosage 2 pumps in each nostril. The first time, I felt mellow a couple of hours later. The next day I tried again and it did nothing. 🤷‍♂️
 
Im getting my Semax and Selank tomorrow so will try and find out. Have suffered with Anxiety and have ADHD type behaviours. Hoping it can level me out, will post back results
 
pddz9 said:
uhm thats a good question, i have a 10ml bottle and injected 10mg NA-Selank into it, what i read is that one pump should be 100mcg
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In my mix, each spray is 150 mcg. 300 mcg total and I took 4 sprays in a day. There was no doubt about it's effect in my mind. It's a lot more mellow than my 500 mcg per spray Semax. I just got my NA Semax Amidate. Looking forward to making that one in a few weeks.

The Russian studies appear to have used older test subjects and that may have something to do with the response.

Edit: fixed spray dosage
 
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Well had to abort the ski trip to the great white north a day early due to storms. Airline canceled our flight for today so scrambled to find an alternative a day earlier. Came home to find find the shipment that SHOULD have come before the trip finally made it. I wasn’t sure Selank would have such an impact and only bought one bottle. That left me rationing by the end of the trip.

So overall it’s clear Selank has a major effect, at least for me. I had been at 900-1200mcg per day and had to drop down to 100mcg per day and had the last dose Friday. The anxiety noise had started creeping in midweek. Reconsituted as soon as the car was empty and within an hour felt like everything was back to the “new normal” I had found.

In parallel the shipment also had the Semax I as looking to add. I have had two doses so far of 200mcg each last night and this morning. As of right now I’m not seeing any impact from Semax at all. It may just be the residual mental load of the aborted trip. Flight canceled at 6:30ish and was on hold with Amex till 7:30 trying to get an alternative flight. Packed up four people and cleaned the condo. In bed by 9, up at 4am for 90 min drive in -22 weather to make the airport in time. Hoping once things normalize I’ll see something from it….. but as of now nadda.
 
jw717us said:
Well had to abort the ski trip to the great white north a day early due to storms. Airline canceled our flight for today so scrambled to find an alternative a day earlier. Came home to find find the shipment that SHOULD have come before the trip finally made it. I wasn’t sure Selank would have such an impact and only bought one bottle. That left me rationing by the end of the trip.

So overall it’s clear Selank has a major effect, at least for me. I had been at 900-1200mcg per day and had to drop down to 100mcg per day and had the last dose Friday. The anxiety noise had started creeping in midweek. Reconsituted as soon as the car was empty and within an hour felt like everything was back to the “new normal” I had found.

In parallel the shipment also had the Semax I as looking to add. I have had two doses so far of 200mcg each last night and this morning. As of right now I’m not seeing any impact from Semax at all. It may just be the residual mental load of the aborted trip. Flight canceled at 6:30ish and was on hold with Amex till 7:30 trying to get an alternative flight. Packed up four people and cleaned the condo. In bed by 9, up at 4am for 90 min drive in -22 weather to make the airport in time. Hoping once things normalize I’ll see something from it….. but as of now nadda.
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General question to all on this thread. I’ve been clearing my sinuses and nose with an allergy spray when needed. I don’t think a spray is effective without airflow. What do you think? I’m 3 days in on AM Semax and PM Selank. Subtle effects so far. If anything a bit of fatigue from Semax.
 
Twowheelr2 said:
General question to all on this thread. I’ve been clearing my sinuses and nose with an allergy spray when needed. I don’t think a spray is effective without airflow. What do you think? I’m 3 days in on AM Semax and PM Selank. Subtle effects so far. If anything a bit of fatigue from Semax.
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Definitely want to blow your nose. Due to allergies and snoring I got used to using an electric neti to keep it all cleared out and I've just stuck with that before bed.
 
I think you're right. No airflow and it won't be effective. I use saline spray daily and Astepro nasal spray if I'm clogged. Astepro is Azelastine which is way better than Afrin (et al) because it has no rebound effect. I used to get it as a prescription. You can use it daily with no issues. A recent study also showed it protects against Corona viri for up to 3 hours.

The correct technique also helps. I learned this from my ENT because I used to get yearly sinus infections. Tip your head slightly forward, insert the spray top at a slight angle away from your nasal mid line. I point the tip towards the outside of my eye, comfortably. No torque is necessary and sometimes your opposite hand works better. This reduces any dripping which is, of course, wasted peptide and maximizes the surface area.
 
Twowheelr2 said:
General question to all on this thread. I’ve been clearing my sinuses and nose with an allergy spray when needed. I don’t think a spray is effective without airflow. What do you think? I’m 3 days in on AM Semax and PM Selank. Subtle effects so far. If anything a bit of fatigue from Semax.
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You need good air flow, and clear surface area, without debris on the nasal membranes, to absorb the spray. So make sure to clean out all those bogies! 🤧
 
UPDATE

So i took 2 more sprays per nostril, it definitely did something but its hard to explain haha, i met a friend today we were going to eat something and as we drive to the restaurant i was sitting in the Car chilling and my mind was relaxing, i don't know how to explain really weird feeling but not in a bad way, this was 5 hours ago, now i feel normal again i would say
 
pddz9 said:
UPDATE

So i took 2 more sprays per nostril, it definitely did something but its hard to explain haha, i met a friend today we were going to eat something and as we drive to the restaurant i was sitting in the Car chilling and my mind was relaxing, i don't know how to explain really weird feeling but not in a bad way, this was 5 hours ago, now i feel normal again i would say
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You mean feeling like this? Feeling funny
😀
 
pddz9 said:
UPDATE

So i took 2 more sprays per nostril, it definitely did something but its hard to explain haha, i met a friend today we were going to eat something and as we drive to the restaurant i was sitting in the Car chilling and my mind was relaxing, i don't know how to explain really weird feeling but not in a bad way, this was 5 hours ago, now i feel normal again i would say
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That's what I get. It's subtle, but it's definitely there. I like it.
 
I'm tr,ing different things right now, i started with methylene blue 3 weeks ago but stopped taking it because my right eye started twitching, and it still does i don't know if its the mb i'm taking magnesium for the last three days and its getting better could be an magnesium defficiency, i'm going to take my selank for this week, but i'm going to take it in the morning i will keep you updated
 
So started today around 0.4mg each for semax and selank. Hard to describe the feeling as it is subtle. But within a hour I felt pretty calm and less of the mind racing i normally get. Quite calming but could be placebo. Will test over the next couple of weeks.
 
So now that I'm fully recovered from vacation we are back to reserach.

Selank 3 x 400mcg per day and full effect back in place.
Semax 2 x 200mcg per day and so far no noticeable impact at all.

I have the NA versions on the way for the next round.
 
jw717us said:
So now that I'm fully recovered from vacation we are back to reserach.

Selank 3 x 400mcg per day and full effect back in place.
Semax 2 x 200mcg per day and so far no noticeable impact at all.

I have the NA versions on the way for the next round.
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What time are scheduling them? Semax in the morning and Selank in the afternoon? I didn't use them together and felt both, everyone is different.
 
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