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What are they talking about regarding CC companies "targeting that brand name during underwriting and routine audits"? Do CC companies care that customers are buying grey market products?
Of course. Replace the word grey with weed or cbd or any of the other substances that are of dubious legality. Grey is just a polite word that allows people to lie to themselves about what they’re doing
 
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What are they talking about regarding CC companies "targeting that brand name during underwriting and routine audits"? Do CC companies care that customers are buying grey market products?
they do, because the government is looking over THEIR shoulder. I remember not too many years ago you couldn't buy crypto on the bigger exchanges with certain credit cards.
 
Of course. Replace the word grey with weed or cbd or any of the other substances that are of dubious legality. Grey is just a polite word that allows people to lie to themselves about what they’re doing
Never had any issues buying weed products with CC or the CC company. I do know banks were hesitant to loan money for cannabis growing/selling operations ..... until they saw the money it was generating.
 
Never had any issues buying weed products with CC or the CC company. I do know banks were hesitant to loan money for cannabis growing/selling operations ..... until they saw the money it was generating.
I have yet to see a dispensary that accepts card payments directly. The closest I've seen is they have ATM's inside to get cash to pay.
 
Crypto is well going to be mandatory soon. It's not too much of a lift IMO. I know we're veering off a bit but I use Edge wallet - you can buy USDC on your chosen network or BTC right from the wallet with a few different processor options. You'll need KYC but you keep Google out of your business.

I think the vendors are growing weary of the enhanced scrutiny and the honorable ones are sick of the chargebacks and bullshit they have to deal with when accepting credit cards. No chargebacks on crypto!
 
Crypto is well going to be mandatory soon. It's not too much of a lift IMO. I know we're veering off a bit but I use Edge wallet - you can buy USDC on your chosen network or BTC right from the wallet with a few different processor options. You'll need KYC but you keep Google out of your business.

I think the vendors are growing weary of the enhanced scrutiny and the honorable ones are sick of the chargebacks and bullshit they have to deal with when accepting credit cards. No chargebacks on crypto!
Can you buy crypto on Edge with any credit cards or only debit? If credit cards can be used and they don't hit you with cash advance fees, that would be news to me and would be very useful.
 
Can you buy crypto on Edge with any credit cards or only debit? If credit cards can be used and they don't hit you with cash advance fees, that would be news to me and would be very useful.
It's not the platform that determines if a crypto transaction with a credit card is treated as a cash advance, it's the card issuer.
 
Can you buy crypto on Edge with any credit cards or only debit? If credit cards can be used and they don't hit you with cash advance fees, that would be news to me and would be very useful.
No idea. Banxa, Moonpay and Simplex allow you to use a credit card. They said higher likelihood of success with debit card though. It would be up to the card issuer whether or not it was a cash advance.
 
There was no hold before you were able to transfer?
I bought $10 BTC on CashApp just to see what was up. It let me buy it with no issue. As soon as I wanted to transfer it out (just to my Edge wallet), I needed to do full KYC including ID scan and selfie.

Then the fees -- $2 to send $10 BTC with a 24-hour transit time. $3 for 3 hours.

I thought the whole thing was fucked so I just sold the BTC back and dropped it.
 
I bought $10 BTC on CashApp just to see what was up. It let me buy it with no issue. As soon as I wanted to transfer it out (just to my Edge wallet), I needed to do full KYC including ID scan and selfie.

Then the fees -- $2 to send $10 BTC with a 24-hour transit time. $3 for 3 hours.

I thought the whole thing was fucked so I just sold the BTC back and dropped it.
Figures, XO Pay through Exodus wallet only wanted my SS# which is still invasive, they charge 4% though.
 
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Figures, XO Pay through Exodus wallet only wanted my SS# which is still invasive, they charge 4% though.
From what I've been able to obsess about and work on the last few weeks, there's virtually no way to get around KYC without involving significant levels of fraud. You need to misrepresent yourself as not being American and establish a mailing address in a very crypto-friendly area, like Georgia (country) or the Cayman Islands. And there's still KYC involved with that.

I've accepted that people exponentially smarter and much scummier then me have tried their best to get around KYC, and that's why the KYC exists.
 
They do in California — our local cannabis shop takes ATM. Pretty common now.
ATMs seem to be the norm. Any place accepting credit/debit directly is likely doing it under a front company with an unrelated MCC code or through some kind of cloaking setup, both of which are in violation of Visa/MasterCard/AmEx's policies and will likely have problems eventually.

100% legitimate cannabis shops operating with the full approval, licensing and oversight of state and local governments cannot legitimately accept credit/debit cards regardless of how above-board they're operating until federal laws change. The situation is a bit different for peptide shops, but once the card networks sniff out peptides they put the hammer down. The various ISO's, etc. out there that are still onboarding peptide shops are fewer every day.
 
As far as crypto payments goes, Paypal Crypto PYUSD works well and is pretty straight forward if you already have a Paypal account. I know a particular vendor that lets you pay this way as I just did that this week.
My biggest issue with this is that Google really does not need to harvest more data about us.

And, what is to stop Google from deciding that they don't want us buying peptides and shut PYUSD down for that purpose?
 
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And who owns PayPal?
Apparently not google!!!

It is an independent, publicly traded company owned by institutional investors and shareholders, not a single entity.
  • Independent Status: Following its 2015 spinoff from eBay, PayPal operates as a standalone, publicly traded company.
  • Top Shareholders: As of 2025, major institutional holders include The Vanguard Group (approx. 9%), State Street Global Advisors (4.7%), and BlackRock (4.6%).
 

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