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[So_krispy69]

Still learning and trying to get a grasp on this . I see batches being tested and coming back higher then stated on the label for instance reta 30 actually being 34 so id assume u would take that into consideration when doing recon and add 3.4ml of bac to keep your dosages simple . My question is what if testing hasnt been done yet are people waiting to use the reta or still using it as just 30 and not worried about overages . Id imagine if i started my rat on .5mg and recon thinking it was 30 and actually 34 that would throw my dosage off. The more i try to learn and pull the trigger on a buy more questions pop up and stop me

 

[randompersonrandom]

Still learning and trying to get a grasp on this . I see batches being tested and coming back higher then stated on the label for instance reta 30 actually being 34 so id assume u would take that into consideration when doing recon and add 3.4ml of bac to keep your dosages simple . My question is what if testing hasnt been done yet are people waiting to use the reta or still using it as just 30 and not worried about overages . Id imagine if i started my rat on .5mg and recon thinking it was 30 and actually 34 that would throw my dosage off. The more i try to learn and pull the trigger on a buy more questions pop up and stop me

Lots of people wait for third party test results. I do, unless it's from a vendor that I have reasonable trust in (a reseller who buys from China, is transparent about the purchase and testing process, and posts the results before putting things up for sale, and btw trusting that process with any vendor is NOT a recommendation.) It's not the overage that we wait for, it's the purity and the "what's actually in the vial," but the overfill/underfill will be part of that. For most people, the overfill won't significantly alter the dose, because a 10% higher dose isn't a big deal in most peps, but it's still sensible to recon accordingly so you have consistency of dose.

 

[So_krispy69]

So id be better off waiting til the test results are posted before buying reta i never bought from this supplier but seems to have good
Reviews

 

[Mr.Tired]

It's not the overage that we wait for, it's the purity and the "what's actually in the vial," but the overfill/underfill will be part of that. For most people, the overfill won't significantly alter the dose, because a 10% higher dose isn't a big deal in most peps, but it's still sensible to recon accordingly so you have consistency of dose.

I'll second the above. Overages aren't generally enough to be a dosing concern for most people (although definitely for some). Purity and 'what's in the vial' are the main concerns.

If I'm buying something like reta and the batch from that specific vendor hasn't been tested, I'll look around at tests from other vendors who are selling the same cap color+dose.

All the vendors are probably getting their supplies from a couple labs who put out large batches of the same peptide and dose with the same cap colors. So if I'm buying R30 purple cap from a vendor and no one has tested their batch, I'll find a few other places that have tested R30 purple cap and see how those turned out. It's usually pretty consistent.
If my purchse is from an otherwise reputable vendor that's had a bunch of other batches test well, I will probably trust that the untested stuff is fine.

There is obviously a fair amount of risk and uncertainty with this, so like with everything else in the grey market everyone needs to evaluate their own risk tolerance.

 

[Chili777]

Still learning and trying to get a grasp on this . I see batches being tested and coming back higher then stated on the label for instance reta 30 actually being 34 so id assume u would take that into consideration when doing recon and add 3.4ml of bac to keep your dosages simple . My question is what if testing hasnt been done yet are people waiting to use the reta or still using it as just 30 and not worried about overages . Id imagine if i started my rat on .5mg and recon thinking it was 30 and actually 34 that would throw my dosage off. The more i try to learn and pull the trigger on a buy more questions pop up and stop me

That's what happened to me on my very first buy. The peptide I bought was R48. The peptide I got was R58. The COA hadn't been released yet and I was like a kid in a candy store, so I went ahead and took the first dose, based on the trials I had been following. Had I understood then that the overfill was significantly higher, and not knowing what my initial response would be, I should have waited. Had I been an over-responder, like some people are, I could have been puking or had some other adverse reaction. Turns out the Reta is almost custom made for me, but I didn't know that then. Live and learn.

 

[So_krispy69]

Yea thats what im trying to figure out . The reta 30 i was enquiring about , the seller said the testing isnt done yet so i wasnt sure if i should wait or find another source or buy it and use it anyway

 

[Chili777]

Yea thats what im trying to figure out . The reta 30 i was enquiring about , the seller said the testing isnt done yet so i wasnt sure if i should wait or find another source or buy it and use it anyway

That's the question. What do regular customers say about the quality and consistency of the products and do you trust them? I know some vendors are trusted to the point that most don't even test. I know others who test everything they buy. Having said that, there are vendors out there that have current COAs that match the batch on sale. It all depends on your comfort level and it's a very individual decision.

 

[So_krispy69]

Yea being new to this i dont have much trust in anything yet i thought i found a good vendor but then he said testing isnt done yet and now im back to square one

 

[Vash]

I reconstitute based on the tested mass. Some dealers are off by huge margins. I’ve seen tests come back 30+% over the indicated mass. Under filled is less of an issue. But does happen.

 

[So_krispy69]

sounds like im going to wait for the test results he said they were two weeks out or find another vender

 

[anhydrous]

I support reconning based on the mass from the COA.

 

[So_krispy69]

Seems like safest way to get a accurate dose

 

[Sasquatch]

Let's say you received a kit. You kinda know what you got, but you kinda don't.
(this is where you draw your own "safety line.")
I'd recon one vial according to the plan. (you do have a plan?)
Then give the rats a little bit to see if they die or not.
Gotta start small anyway. A week at a time. See what happens.
Don't get all crazy. Be cool. 😎

 

[byefatlicia]

For me, I won't buy if they don't provide a COA. That's the least they can do. Especially when these are the glps they are running specials on. Just shows that they are either unprofessional or just cheap.

 

[BNLFL]

It's not the overage that we wait for, it's the purity and the "what's actually in the vial," but the overfill/underfill will be part of that. For most people, the overfill won't significantly alter the dose, because a 10% higher dose isn't a big deal in most peps, but it's still sensible to recon accordingly so you have consistency of dose.

This is my kind of my train of thought if it's not huge. My last batch was just a touch light (1mg) on the fill. I adjusted the BAC.

 

[So_krispy69]

For me, I won't buy if they don't provide a COA. That's the least they can do. Especially when these are the glps they are running specials on. Just shows that they are either unprofessional or just cheap.

Does the coa stat the amount of product or is that only verified in the 3rd party testing ?

 

[byefatlicia]

Does the coa stat the amount of product or is that only verified in the 3rd party testing ?

It shows the purity and quantity tested by Janoshik. 3rd party testing is another layer of security for us🙂