Do you notice any differences between peptides from different suppliers?

[Omxxl]

Do you notice the differences between peptides from different suppliers, and even between same dosages?

I've noticed that RT20 is more effective for me than the RT30 I had, even using the same dose and for more weeks. That is, I was taking 2.5 mg with one vial of RT30 for 3 weeks, and now with RT20 I'm noticing a stronger effect.

The mg/ml ratio is correct, and it's from the same supplier. But before, I was given Retatrutide from another supplier, and it also had a different effect on me.

I supposedly have the analyses for all of them, and they're okay, and this makes me doubt their reliability or bioavailability.

What do you think?

 

[Turbo-Farmer]

There’s more factors at play. Everything being equal the effects should have been the same for the same dosages.

When you are dealing with the grey never underestimate the effects of improper shipping and handling. Especially with Reta which has been shown to be the most delicate of the Glp family.

 

[Calm Logic]

Even with 3P testing, there can be intra-batch variability.

TFA salts are a potential issue with reta.

and of course, biologically, we are not the same even 5 minutes from now.

 

[deleted.user.16]

Honestly the effects I get from Reta from one week to another (even on the same vial) are so drastically different that it would be impossible to tell the difference between vendors based on feeling alone.

 

[BNLFL]

I have one brand from a guy I buy from that seems to have a little more kick I guess you could say.

 

[ThatNextGril]

and of course, biologically, we are not the same even 5 minutes from now.

Truth. We're not even the same 5 minutes from now existentially.

 

[sheilarae74]

Honestly the effects I get from Reta from one week to another (even on the same vial) are so drastically different that it would be impossible to tell the difference between vendors based on feeling alone.

Same. I just reconstituted a R20 vial from my new supply but it seems like my side effects are almost non-existent this week. But I am still losing weight and food noise is still controlled. Then again, I have been at 4mg for 4 weeks now. Maybe I am just getting used to this dose.

 

[BNLFL]

Same. I just reconstituted a R20 vial from my new supply but it seems like my side effects are almost non-existent this week. But I am still losing weight and food noise is still controlled. Then again, I have been at 4mg for 4 weeks now. Maybe I am just getting used to this dose.

My wife says the same, but still losing. It's when the weight stall happens that makes you wonder about tirating up. We just did pin 5 on 6mg Friday and still losing. I hope we do, or it's 8mg.

 

[desinr-gal]

If you look at multi batch tests of vials from Jano, you will notice that there can be a sizeable difference in quantity of peptide in each vial, of the SAME batch..So your pins are very likely not the same amount of Reta each time. That is just the reality.

 

[Gt3294a]

Even with 3P testing, there can be intra-batch variability.

TFA salts are a potential issue with reta.

and of course, biologically, we are not the same even 5 minutes from now.

I am making an over under bet with myself when I read Calm posts at 2. Will I not understand over or under 2 words!

 

[CNCCurrency]

Do you notice the differences between peptides from different suppliers, and even between same dosages?

I've noticed that RT20 is more effective for me than the RT30 I had, even using the same dose and for more weeks. That is, I was taking 2.5 mg with one vial of RT30 for 3 weeks, and now with RT20 I'm noticing a stronger effect.

The mg/ml ratio is correct, and it's from the same supplier. But before, I was given Retatrutide from another supplier, and it also had a different effect on me.

I supposedly have the analyses for all of them, and they're okay, and this makes me doubt their reliability or bioavailability.

What do you think?

I haven't noticed any differences

 

[Youarewhen]

Truth. We're not even the same 5 minutes from now existentially.

 

[Omxxl]

It's good to know that most people experience this too, haha.

 

[BNLFL]

If you look at multi batch tests of vials from Jano, you will notice that there can be a sizeable difference in quantity of peptide in each vial, of the SAME batch..So your pins are very likely not the same amount of Reta each time. That is just the reality.

This is why I like to know the actual fill mg for reconstituting. I had a R24 kit a while back that were really 22mg. I also have a R50 kit that's 56.5mg.

 

[dr_love]

I have one brand from a guy I buy from that seems to have a little more kick I guess you could say.

I have heard of people giving a 30mg vial stating its 20mg to make the product feel superior.

 

[Calm Logic]

I have heard of people giving a 30mg vial stating its 20mg to make the product feel superior.

Yes, the local single vial sellers are known for playing that game. I didn't know it was that extreme, but it makes sense since they may not have a COA anyway. But if you have an overfilled 30 mg, that even makes it crazier.

 

[Devilseye]

I have heard of people giving a 30mg vial stating its 20mg to make the product feel superior.

Yeah and different vendors overfill to different extents to make their product feel superior. Its so cheap for them thats its worth it.

 

[dogmom]

Yes but people will say it is a placebo feeling and there is no difference.

 

[Fordhayes]

My wife says the same, but still losing. It's when the weight stall happens that makes you wonder about tirating up. We just did pin 5 on 6mg Friday and still losing. I hope we do, or it's 8mg.

I know 2mg is the standard titration but IMO once you get to 6mg it’s time to only go up 1mg at a time. Side effects become more prevalent after 6mg.

 

[lessthanhalf]

If I had to guess, I would say it would be very difficult to tell small differences in doses apart most of the time, unless like me you had some side effects that were extremely dose dependent like skin sensitivity that is not a problem at 15mg of tirz and 5 mg of reta but is noticeably worse with 1 extra mg of either a week. I probably could not tell if the dose was 1mg less though.

For effects on appetite and hunger I would guess expectation and placebo effects are more likely overall to be causing the differences noticed. There are difference in actual doses due to dosing inaccuracy by vendors but they are almost never off by more than 10%, whereas the difference between 20mg and 30mg reta is more like 50%. And even on GLP drugs hunger varies over time depending on how much work or exercise or stress you had that week, and on whether you ate more or less than average in the last few days or week as well, and probably just random day to day and week to week variation on top of any definable explanation. So unless you are guaging the effect of the drug based on a dose dependent side effect, going by "feels" on the appetite suppressing effect is not likely to be all that precise.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

I have heard of people giving a 30mg vial stating its 20mg to make the product feel superior.

That's just dangerous.

 

[bonelifts]

I wouldn’t say I have seen different results from the peptide itself. But we consistently go to two specific suppliers as up to now have been consistent with order / service/ quality.

 

[funkytwisternumber9]

Do you notice the differences between peptides from different suppliers, and even between same dosages?

I've noticed that RT20 is more effective for me than the RT30 I had, even using the same dose and for more weeks. That is, I was taking 2.5 mg with one vial of RT30 for 3 weeks, and now with RT20 I'm noticing a stronger effect.

The mg/ml ratio is correct, and it's from the same supplier. But before, I was given Retatrutide from another supplier, and it also had a different effect on me.

I supposedly have the analyses for all of them, and they're okay, and this makes me doubt their reliability or bioavailability.

What do you think?

I messed up and just ordered from the first supplier i saw and i got RT10. The issue is that im 2 weeks in and i decided to start at 4 mg / week and i am feeling nothing! 😭 Im sad im 140 bucks out. . Also its kinda confusing because i was doing tirz for a couple months and i loved it. I love not having to worry abt food. But im not sure if reta feels different. Anyways all will be learned along the way ig

 

[FartfulCodger]

I messed up and just ordered from the first supplier i saw and i got RT10. The issue is that im 2 weeks in and i decided to start at 4 mg / week and i am feeling nothing! 😭 Im sad im 140 bucks out. . Also its kinda confusing because i was doing tirz for a couple months and i loved it. I love not having to worry abt food. But im not sure if reta feels different. Anyways all will be learned along the way ig

That was my problem when I tried to switch to Reta. I had been spoiled by Tirz's appetite suppression. Limiting my caloric intake was easy with Tirz, and it had become the cornerstone of my weight loss strategy. Reta is actually designed to skimp on appetite suppression while optimizing metabolism. Unfortunately, whatever appetite suppression it does offer seems to work even less effectively in people who have already "tainted" themselves with an earlier GLP-1 course. I do believe that if you hang in there for a while, the Reta benefits will kick in and you'll see the scale dropping. Some of the benefits of Reta don't really appear until you've worked your way up to a higher dose. For me the allodynia (skin sensitivity) that Reta caused made me turn back to Tirz.

 

[funkytwisternumber9]

That was my problem when I tried to switch to Reta. I had been spoiled by Tirz's appetite suppression. Limiting my caloric intake was easy with Tirz, and it had become the cornerstone of my weight loss strategy. Reta is actually designed to skimp on appetite suppression while optimizing metabolism. Unfortunately, whatever appetite suppression it does offer seems to work even less effectively in people who have already "tainted" themselves with an earlier GLP-1 course. I do believe that if you hang in there for a while, the Reta benefits will kick in and you'll see the scale dropping. Some of the benefits of Reta don't really appear until you've worked your way up to a higher dose. For me the allodynia (skin sensitivity) that Reta caused made me turn back to Tirz.

That was my problem when I tried to switch to Reta. I had been spoiled by Tirz's appetite suppression. Limiting my caloric intake was easy with Tirz, and it had become the cornerstone of my weight loss strategy. Reta is actually designed to skimp on appetite suppression while optimizing metabolism. Unfortunately, whatever appetite suppression it does offer seems to work even less effectively in people who have already "tainted" themselves with an earlier GLP-1 course. I do believe that if you hang in there for a while, the Reta benefits will kick in and you'll see the scale dropping. Some of the benefits of Reta don't really appear until you've worked your way up to a higher dose. For me the allodynia (skin sensitivity) that Reta caused made me turn back to Tirz.

Thanks for the feedback! I am a proud tirz tainted whore lmao. I genuinely miss not being interested in food. Potentially thinking about stacking tirz and reta. But i will find a reliable trustworthy supplier first. Another thing that makes me think that the batch i got isnt good is due to all of the side affects people complain about even at low doses. And i tried to start at what i thought was a pretty high dose and im not feeling any side affects at all. Over all tho im still excited and optimistic about the community and the journey.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

Thanks for the feedback! I am a proud tirz tainted whore lmao. I genuinely miss not being interested in food. Potentially thinking about stacking tirz and reta. But i will find a reliable trustworthy supplier first. Another thing that makes me think that the batch i got isnt good is due to all of the side affects people complain about even at low doses. And i tried to start at what i thought was a pretty high dose and im not feeling any side affects at all. Over all tho im still excited and optimistic about the community and the journey.

Everyone is different. You're also not starting from ground zero.

 

[shawtykatie]

from your perspective is it better to have a short break between two different retas from different shops?

 

[BNLFL]

from your perspective is it better to have a short break between two different retas from different shops?

No break. Just the normal 1 week between shots if you do one a week. One did seem to kick a touch harder. I have a bunch from that supplier from a certain place I had never heard of.

 

[Dos-Dox]

Do you notice the differences between peptides from different suppliers, and even between same dosages?

The only difference I think I notice is with different reta suppliers in regards to side effects. I notice more skin tingling with some suppliers than others. I’ve never noticed a difference between different BPC batches or KPV or TB4, etc.