Bac water

[Creasey77]

I know everyone says hospira bac water is the gold standard but its near impossible to find in the uk so what do people think of this one.
Its ph is 5.7 same as hospira.

10ml Bacteriostatic Mixing Water

10ml Bacteriostatic Water: Sterile, non-pyrogenic solution formulated for use in research laboratories. Contains 0.9% (9mg/mL) benzyl alcohol as a bacteriostatic preservative to help maintain integrity during repeated withdrawals in ongoing research studies.Key FeaturesPrecise Volume: Ea

www.uk-peptides.com

 

[CranberryRocker]

I know everyone says hospira bac water is the gold standard but its near impossible to find in the uk so what do people think of this one.
Its ph is 5.7 same as hospira.

10ml Bacteriostatic Mixing Water

10ml Bacteriostatic Water: Sterile, non-pyrogenic solution formulated for use in research laboratories. Contains 0.9% (9mg/mL) benzyl alcohol as a bacteriostatic preservative to help maintain integrity during repeated withdrawals in ongoing research studies.Key FeaturesPrecise Volume: Ea

www.uk-peptides.com

VGpep are apparently getting supply available from their online shop from tomorrow (according to a FB ad). They are a Uk seller.

 

[Beardboost]

I use New Wave Bac Water, tested with COA's, nice price too! Link

 

[cheesecake]

Or just use sterile injection water from the pharmacy + benzyl alcohol?

 

[gusterbuster]

Im gonna say send it for any peptides that dont have gelling concerns.

Lots of fear mongering, but for every one hospira user their is probably half dozen who use bathtub water, I mean vendor BAC and we dont have news stories of hospitalizations etc.

Also can get BAC from India Mart pretty cheap. Hospira owns the BAC market in the US but several pharma grade in the rest of the world. Genetek is generally well regarded.

 

[Mainah]

I use New Wave Bac Water, tested with COA's, nice price too! Link

That ph though...

 

[BNLFL]

That ph though...

What was it?

 

[Creasey77]

What was it?

8.89

 

[BNLFL]

8.89

Yep, high.

 

[DrPEPr]

Get Hospira or make your own.
Can't believe this is still a thing.

 

[Yokerr]

Vgpep have stock in right now...

its gone now ;/

 

[deluge]

If the shortage of Hospira continues into next year, I think I'd personally be ok with using sterile water for injection instead. We all may be over-thinking this.

I'll do what I can to order Hospira a few months in advance, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

I'd definitely avoid anything on Amazon or vendor, though.

 

[EAM9112]

If the shortage of Hospira continues into next year, I think I'd personally be ok with using sterile water for injection instead. We all may be over-thinking this.

I'll do what I can to order Hospira a few months in advance, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

I'd definitely avoid anything on Amazon or vendor, though.

I am thinking about this too. I listened to an interview with Peter Magic and he said sterile water is fine to use and thats what most people in the EU use because BAC water is hard to come by.

 

[Ascojoerg]

I think I'd personally be ok with using sterile water for injection instead. We all may be over-thinking this.

I am thinking about this too.

I have been using SWI as I couldnt be bothered with sourcing Hospira in Germany. Recently bought BA +99,95% USP and now make my own. Of course not recommending anyone to do that, simply speaking from my own experience. So far no ISR or cloudy recons.

 

[Creasey77]

I have been using SWI as I couldnt be bothered with sourcing Hospira in Germany. Recently bought BA +99,95% USP and now make my own. Of course not recommending anyone to do that, simply speaking from my own experience. So far no ISR or cloudy recons.

Ooooh how would I make my own, I like the sound of that

 

[Ascojoerg]

Ooooh how would I make my own, I like the sound of that

I would first suggest to check if you could find Benzyl alcohol +99,95% FCC, USP grade in the UK. Without it I wouldn't have even bothered.

 

[Creasey77]

I would first suggest to check if you could find Benzyl alcohol +99,95% FCC, USP grade in the UK. Without it I wouldn't have even bothered.

 

[Ascojoerg]

Not the same, that is not tested according to USP standard and not for pharmaceutical use.

 

[Creasey77]

Not the same, that is not tested according to USP standard and not for pharmaceutical use.

How about this

 

[Fostradamus]

Ooooh how would I make my own, I like the sound of that

Benzyl Alcohol 99.9% Pure - solvent, preservative and stabilizer buy UK online https://share.google/Vg0DBfp63aFIesXpo

 

[deluge]

Hey, anyone needs alcohol, hit me up.

Just don't take the first bit out of the pipe, that's Acetone. Unless you need nail polish remover, too; then I've got you covered, fam!

 

[EAM9112]

I have been using SWI as I couldnt be bothered with sourcing Hospira in Germany. Recently bought BA +99,95% USP and now make my own. Of course not recommending anyone to do that, simply speaking from my own experience. So far no ISR or cloudy recons.

I appreciate you sharing!

 

[Ascojoerg]

How about this

Does seem to have the right labels in the description but for some reason it is "only" 99,9% pure as opposed to what I have normally seen for pharma grade at 99,95%.

Benzyl Alcohol 99.9% Pure - solvent, preservative and stabilizer buy UK online https://share.google/Vg0DBfp63aFIesXpo

That whole website screams red flag to me, the description just seems like copy paste from ChatGPT.

 

[Fostradamus]

Does seem to have the right labels in the description but for some reason it is "only" 99,9% pure as opposed to what I have normally seen for pharma grade at 99,95%.

That whole website screams red flag to me, the description just seems like copy paste from ChatGPT.

I've bought from them and it's what I've used to make my own bac without any issues.

 

[Creasey77]

Hey, anyone needs alcohol, hit me up.

Just don't take the first bit out of the pipe, that's Acetone. Unless you need nail polish remover, too; then I've got you covered, fam!View attachment 24282

This used to be mine.

 

[Bluecost10]

Im gonna say send it for any peptides that dont have gelling concerns.

Lots of fear mongering, but for every one hospira user their is probably half dozen who use bathtub water, I mean vendor BAC and we dont have news stories of hospitalizations etc.

Also can get BAC from India Mart pretty cheap. Hospira owns the BAC market in the US but several pharma grade in the rest of the world. Genetek is generally well regarded.

What do you think should you generally get Genetek BAC tested for safety, or can you trust it? Asking because in the EU it’s a bit difficult to get Hospira.

 

[gusterbuster]

What do you think should you generally get Genetek BAC tested for safety, or can you trust it? Asking because in the EU it’s a bit difficult to get Hospira.

Almost half of the generic drugs in US come from India. So its not like this is some underground lab BAC water.

We all have our own risk tolerance. I personally feel safe with genetek bac water. Shit I used vendor bac water for first few months with no issues until hospira cult scared me lol.

I just ordered the more accurate ph strips so I can atleast report back on its pH in a few days.

 

[Bluecost10]

Almost half of the generic drugs in US come from India. So its not like this is some underground lab BAC water.

We all have our own risk tolerance. I personally feel safe with genetek bac water. Shit I used vendor bac water for first few months with no issues until hospira cult scared me lol.

I just ordered the more accurate ph strips so I can atleast report back on its pH in a few days.

Yeah exactly, at the beginning I didn’t think much about the BAC water also having to serve its purpose, but now I know better

 

[rpadevman]

Ooooh how would I make my own, I like the sound of that

I’m curious as well, but from the little I’ve read about it, you can’t create the most sterile conditions at home.

 

[Fostradamus]

I’m curious as well, but from the little I’ve read about it, you can’t create the most sterile conditions at home.

So, from my understanding, sterility isn't really an issue. You take the 99.9% benzyl alcohol and inject it into the sealed vial of WFI (this is assuming you have the WFI with the self sealing injection port). Bacteria can't survive in 99.9% BA so you're not introducing any 'badness' (this is a technical term) into the WFI.

As I said, this is my understanding of it. If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will be along any minute to correct me.