No tirz detected in Uther T60

sheilarae74 said:
She's got a stack following and her own TG server, I think she's trying to be another STG. She thinks that everyone the glpforum forum endorses jeep even after the whole endotoxin deal. I wish I could find where she said that and screenshot it.
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I read that post, but what she basically said was that many people were applauding them for their 180 turnaround with their last announcement, rather than condemning them because of their first announcement and saying that's it, it's over.

I was one of them saying it was a good thing that they came around, but let's face it, they were forced into it and they didn't do it because of customer health concerns, or the goodness of their hearts. It's a business and they needed to preserve it. On that she has a point.
 
Chili777 said:
I read that post, but what she basically said was that many people were applauding them for their 180 turnaround with their last announcement, rather than condemning them because of their first announcement and saying that's it, it's over.

I was one of them saying it was a good thing that they came around, but let's face it, they were forced into it and they didn't do it because of customer health concerns, or the goodness of their hearts. It's a business and they needed to preserve it. On that she has a point.
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I don't know. It seems like she is under the impression that the forum itself is standing by jeep regardless and we all know zippity doesn't run things like that. Maybe I'm wrong. Something about her just irks me though.
 
Calm Logic said:
If it says anything other than overfill of T60, I will pay the OP $100 to help pay back some of the testing costs. But I believe pretty strongly it's going to be overfilled tirz.
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That would be so very weird, but it's surely possible. They are going to pay for all the testing if Krause is right, but thanks for the thought! If Krause is wrong I am still going to blast it to the high heavens because we'll know for sure that Krause and Flynnrick suck beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
indolent said:
Have you had any discussions with Flintreich after the CoA came back? Synopsis?
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No word yet, I have emailed both Flynn and Krause. I'm hoping I'll hear back Monday. If I don't hear via email I will attempt the old fashioned phone call. I am going to try to push Krause to identify the peak.
 
peppystrings80 said:
I guess we'll see, won't we? Perhaps they are the only ones who are telling the truth about Uther. The uther public tirz results are astonishingly bad. Say what you will, but a lot of people are sending their samples there. I've sent a lot. Mostly my results have matched jano tests. I've had things sent to Krause and BT and never had a reason to question the result until now. As I understand it, manufacturers/vendors can appeal a bad result, yes? And that's this whole controversy? Because they have to pay for it? So in other words, you'd be happy to let, say, a customer send in a vial of misidentified peps to make a company look bad. And the company have no recourse? And the service is free for the general public, not for vendors or resellers. I'm really really skeptical of what seems to me to be a pretty giant grey market propaganda machine against whatever the fuck you guys want to call it to make to fun. Maybe Finnrisk just uncovered a giant can of worms.
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THAT escalated quickly! Calm TF down. Many here are skeptical of that "service" because the testing has been shown to be unreliable. Search the forum for further info..
There is a theory; that since information came forward that investors are behind the service, investors who may well have invested in other peptide providers, that there is a glaring conflict of interest inherent there as well.
For instance; vials with overfill are penalized and downgraded since they dont exactly match the amount stated... Most people here would disagree with that assessment.
There are many reasons that people here who have been around for awhile, do Not trust
The FinRisky business..
 
Uther T60 batch that was released in February tested well third-party (average of three vials was 65.35 mg):

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EU-based peptide testing lab. LCMS analysis: purity, mass, impurity identification. Ship your sample from anywhere. Fast turnaround.
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Still trying to find 3P for same batch as OP (ZE60-0118), released in late January or early February.
 
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peppystrings80 said:
Freedom received the second vial today! Fingers crossed for speedy testing. Here's the response I got from the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk the other day, if anyone is interested.
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That's a reasonably reasonable reply from Finemess. Although it would be sporting of them to pay for further testing and different labs, and compensate you for providing additional vial(s).
 
HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU GUYS WERE ALL RIGHT. I cannot believe I wasted money and time on that stupid lab. I'm going to try and get my money back from the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk. Go ahead and edit their stupid name however you want.

This is definitely the end of the grey market road for me. I can't take the stress and uncertainty. Sorry for causing such a kerfuffle. It is indeed nicely overfilled tirz. Jesus h Christ

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peppystrings80 said:
HOLY FUCKING SPOT SHIT YOU GUYS WERE ALL RIGHT. I cannot believe I wasted money and time on that stupid lab. I'm going to tell and get my money back from the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk. Go ahead and edit their stupid name however you want.

This is definitely the end of the grey market road for me. I can't take the stress and uncertainty. Sorry for causing such a kerfuffle. It is indeed nicely overfilled tirz. Jesus h Christ
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the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk 🤣
 
peppystrings80 said:
HOLY FUCKING SPOT SHIT YOU GUYS WERE ALL RIGHT. I cannot believe I wasted money and time on that stupid lab. I'm going to tell and get my money back from the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk. Go ahead and edit their stupid name however you want.

This is definitely the end of the grey market road for me. I can't take the stress and uncertainty. Sorry for causing such a kerfuffle. It is indeed nicely overfilled tirz. Jesus h Christ
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That's absolutely insane!

Maybe update your original post, so anyone new who comes along knows not to trust Finnrisk or Krause.
 
peppystrings80 said:
Good morning! Yesterday I received some alarming test results. Full disclosure, I completely trusted the COA I was given from the reseller, so I sent this vial to the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk because I wanted to test endotoxins and wasn't primarily concerned with mass and purity. The vial was sent to Krause, which I am aware is a questionable lab. Uther will not accept these results, so I am sending a vial to Freedom Diagnostics this morning. It's entirely possible that Krause is wrong, and I will update as soon as I have those results. But this is a huge safety issue, as Uther is an incredibly popular vendor, even with recent issues. The Krause test results showed ZERO tirzepatide. I reached out to them to see if they could identify the peak, but I haven't heard back yet. I will post updates here as I get them. The batch of tirz is ZE60-0118. I own two kits, so it seemed worth testing for endotoxins. Glad I did.
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Maybe a mod can edit my title to something appropriately cheeky? KRAUSE WAS WRONG EVERYONE! 100 percent believe they ran the wrong vial. Have already emailed to demand refund and that they take the test results down from the website. Do people want me to keep updating further, if they do a refund or anything? Or would you vastly prefer that I completely disappear and you never have to read about the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk again?
 
peppystrings80 said:
Maybe a mod can edit my title to something appropriately cheeky? KRAUSE WAS WRONG EVERYONE! 100 percent believe they ran the wrong vial. Have already emailed to demand refund and that they take the test results down from the website. Do people want me to keep updating further, if they do a refund or anything? Or would you vastly prefer that I completely disappear and you never have to read about the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk again?
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Hell no, keep going. I think we all appreciate you for doing this. I know I do and this was a great lesson.
 
@ZippityDooDah I don't know how the automatic name change works. If a newcomer tries to search for the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk's actual name, will these posts come up? Seems important to be able to easily find threads like this, with evidence of why they should not be trusted.
 
ZippityDooDah said:
Yes.
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Haha, it's always when someone gives me a simple response, like "yes", that I realize I could have easily figured out the answer myself. In this case, I could have used the search function to see how the search function works.
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WOW.

Any legitimate company would close over something this bad.

Does anyone have a Readers Digest version on why KickRocks is now known as the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk? What exactly went down? Love to hear the back story on that.
 
Chili777 said:
Hell no, keep going. I think we all appreciate you for doing this. I know I do and this was a great lesson.
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Exactly this! It's great that @peppystrings80 provided another clear example where Krause is messed up and great that they also paid for another test on their own. Confirms that something is up with Krause. I knew it when my C10 vial came back showing volume of 3mg and when I pinned I felt it. Those two can't mutually exist.

@peppystrings80 definitely keep us posted. You were upset and lashed out a little, but you thought someone was screwing you. In this case, it turned out to be Krause, like everyone was trying to convince you. It's okay, your tenacity is refreshing. Stay on their ass (Krause's that is). I was too cheap to pay for independent testing on my C10 vial, so hat's off to you.
 
Even if it feels like a waste of time and money , it still provides invaluable information about who to trust with testing, which is definitely worth something, and is independent confirmation that at least that batch of tirz from uther was good. Every test that is done independently helps to keep the vendors honest, they really do not want to get caught out ripping people off, and with no one testing there would be far less pressure on them to not gradually slip into increasing dodgyness.
 
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