Do people tend to stall around 210 after starting at 250-300 lbs with GLP-1s?

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I was on Wegovy for some time and went from 270 to around 215. Then I stalled. Then I stopped taking it. Then I started again and went down from 240 to around 217 until my insurance stopped covering it. I've been taking reta the last month or two and was drinking a half pint of vodka every day. I still went down to around 211. Then I recently quit drinking and I'm down to around 207. But every time the 205-215 area seems to be where I stall out. Then I see other posts where loss graphs are commented and the slope of the graph gets closer to 0 at their most recent point which seems to be around the same place. Is that a common bottom out point? I'm a 6 foot tall 30 year old male and my GW is 185 or even lower. I have a good amount of muscle especially recently but still have persistent subcutaneous fat on my legs and stomach above my hips. I'm about to move to grey market reta so that I can increase my maintenance dosage, but I'm wondering if I'll even see the results that I want or if I'm metabolically limited somehow. Just curious about other people's experience. I'd love to be able to say that I lost more than I'd anticipated like I see some people saying they had (often while stacking, but I'm not there yet).
 
quicksilver80 said:
I wish. Stuck in the high 260s. Ramping up cardio to try to out train the stall. See how that goes.
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When I was at that point my endocrinologist who prescribed me Wegovy recommended a 1200 calorie a day diet. I know that's ridiculously low but it worked. I used myfitnesspal and it was useful
 
No information about how many calories you're eating or how much you're exercising. Are you tracking all of that? And the alcohol comments are worrying, makes it sound like you don't really have this shit dialed in.

Calculate your TDEE. Eat 1000 calories below your TDEE. If you stall after 4-8 weeks, eat closer to maintainence for a week, and then drop into a defecit again. Sometimes you'll see delayed progress where you might retain your weight for a week and drop it the next.

It sounds like you'll benefit from a higher dose, but it also sounds like you need to lock in. And there's also the question of what you're eating, are you getting a varied diet with lots of fiber? Taking your supplements? Avoiding carbs before bed?
 
birdwhacker said:
No information about how many calories you're eating or how much you're exercising. Are you tracking all of that? And the alcohol comments are worrying, makes it sound like you don't really have this shit dialed in.

Calculate your TDEE. Eat 1000 calories below your TDEE. If you stall after 4-8 weeks, eat closer to maintainence for a week, and then drop into a defecit again. Sometimes you'll see delayed progress where you might retain your weight for a week and drop it the next.

It sounds like you'll benefit from a higher dose, but it also sounds like you need to lock in. And there's also the question of what you're eating, are you getting a varied diet with lots of fiber? Taking your supplements? Avoiding carbs before bed?
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I was drinking heavily but I am sober now. I take fiber but I mainly focus on protein. My TDEE is like 3000 which I don't really go by. I work out regularly. Mostly lifting recently but I run about a mile each time I lift, multiple days a week. I try to stay around 1200 calories but usually go above that. I'm considering going above that on purpose in order to up my protein.

I mostly mentioned the alcohol because I believe that the effect of drinking daily undoes the effect of reta, possibly entirely.
 
Linoleumfloor said:
I was drinking heavily but I am sober now. I take fiber but I mainly focus on protein. My TDEE is like 3000 which I don't really go by. I work out regularly. Mostly lifting recently but I run about a mile each time I lift, multiple days a week. I try to stay around 1200 calories but usually go above that. I'm considering going above that on purpose in order to up my protein.

I mostly mentioned the alcohol because I believe that the effect of drinking daily undoes the effect of reta, possibly entirely.
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Congratulations. I'm recently sober as well, or something like it.

It sounds like you need a refeed. Try a week of eating as close to maintainence as you can, then drop it back down to 1200.
 
I couldn't eat 3000 calories a day if I tried lol. But I can up it. Thank you for the congratulations. I stopped doing heavier drugs a few years ago but it's left me feeling kind of isolated because I lost touch with so many of the right people through doing them. So I guess I kind of fell into cross addiction. I'm just doing what I can to work in the right direction now. Not drinking isn't so bad though I didn't really like daily drinking anyway. Congratulations to you as well.
 
Congratulations on giving up alcohol. That's fantastic.

It's possible that your body "likes" the low 200s and is fighting to retain that fat mass. I started my tirz journey at 335 (I'm 6'4") and there are a couple of points where my body seemed to resist giving up weight. First in the 260s and then again in the low 240s. Both of these are weights that I have spent a good amount of time in my life. I pushed through both of these with more protein, and stacking other medications. I'm at 217 now, with the goal of 205, and I'm sure my body is going to very much resist these last 12 pounds. I'm ready for the fight.

But what is probably more likely is that the prior use of a glp-1 is affecting your subsequent restarting. The good news is (at least anectdotally) that people with prior use of a glp-1 respond at higher doses of the subsequent glp-1 medication. So titrating up might help you break through that weight loss plateau. Also more protein would probably help. It also appears that people on reta lose weight longer than on sema or tirz, so you probably have more time.
 
6'2" @330SW, down to 270. @20mg tirz. I know fucking well why I stalled, now. It's all about caloric deficit. Lifting and excersize is about health. Separate from weight loss. In fact, it confuses the situation. I put it together weeks ago. The 'everyone is different' thing confuses the situation too. Whatever your taking adds to the confusion, too. It all here on the forum, believe it or don't.
 
Cant wait to get stuck at 210 🤣 Currently 6'2" @ 265lb. Week 3 Reta @ 1mg/wk. Titrated up from .75mg/wk. the first 2 wks. Scale is barely moving but my determination is steadfast! Good Luck!
 
Linoleumfloor said:
My TDEE is like 3000 which I don't really go by. I work out regularly. Mostly lifting recently but I run about a mile each time I lift, multiple days a week. I try to stay around 1200 calories but usually go above that. I'm considering going above that on purpose in order to up my protein.
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1200 is way too low. Totally not sustainable. Your body is currently thinking one thought: famine.
That means cortisol is probably through the roof and you're in a catabolic state.

If 3000 is your true TDEE then go 2500 an keep that up for a couple (4-5) of months.
Lose the weight, refeed, measure your new TDEE/maintenance and go on from there.

Rinse and repeat until you reach your goal.
 
I started about 277# and have had trouble moving the scale below around 192#. I’ve been hovering here for about 3 weeks. For me it’s not the end of the world, probably where I should end up anyway. Would like to get to 176 to celebrate a 100# loss, but I think that will be too low for my frame at 6’2” and been heavy my whole life. Still working to get recomposed and increase muscle while dropping fat.

I think the body needs to reset occasionally, mine has had a couple so far that last a few weeks.
 
Yes. Sorry, I just love data, but here's like the last month, where I spend 3+ weeks at approximately 212. I kept eating the same 1200 odd calories. That was this month, but as of this am, 201. Just keep on keeping on, don't overthink or change a bunch of things, keep your calories where they need to be and it will come off.
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Grogu said:
I started my tirz journey at 335 (I'm 6'4") and there are a couple of points where my body seemed to resist giving up weight. First in the 260s and then again in the low 240s. Both of these are weights that I have spent a good amount of time in my life. I pushed through both of these with more protein, and stacking other medications. I'm at 217 now, with the goal of 205, and I'm sure my body is going to very much resist these last 12 pounds. I'm ready for the fight.
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As a fellow 6'4" guy, are you sure your goal isn't 204.9? 😉😉

(I mean sure the BMI classifications are a little arbitrary, but still)
 
I'm also a 6 foot tall male, a bit older than you but I have yo-yo'd from 260ish down to 210 a couple of times. Right now I am on tirz for the first time and well on my way back down the scale. I am curious whether I will plateau at that same vicinity again or keep going, but my guess is that 210-220 is probably a happy weight for my body and desired lifestyle. Like you, I am active but don't really want to count every calorie or live like a monk. I have also added a lot more muscle since that last time I weighed 220, so body comp will look a lot different.

What makes 185 your goal weight? Are you very muscular / thickly built? Personally, to get below 200 I would either need to have incredibly low body fat or drop a fair bit of existing muscle, and I don't really want to do either of those things. I guess I would just suggest thinking deliberately through all your goals and priorities and figuring out what's most important to you. Personally I can say that if I could go back to age 30 and just stay below 210 for the next decade, I would count that as a great outcome.

I'm sure you could get to 185 if you want to, but it might require some changes to approach in terms of eating & lifestyle, both to get there and to maintain it.
 
ladyj779 said:
Yes. Sorry, I just love data, but here's like the last month, where I spend 3+ weeks at approximately 212. I kept eating the same 1200 odd calories. That was this month, but as of this am, 201. Just keep on keeping on, don't overthink or change a bunch of things, keep your calories where they need to be and it will come off.
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Just curious what your abbreviations stand for, wr and NM? I am very visual and I like the way this looks.
 
Brand (compound co.), or cap color (grey), so I know what the heck I'm taking and when 😂 then some are doses in mg, like the compounds, some in units because I definitely do things weirdly. Or badly.

Like I'm currently trying to use up two different compound tirz vials with different concentrations because reasons...if I don't keep track, and visually, I'll end up...having a bad day 😂
 
Grogu said:
😂 Yes, 204.9…. I would like to know what it feels like to be a “normal “ BMI.
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So at my absolute peak I was over 400 lbs (back then it was hard to find scales that went higher than that back then and frankly, I stopped being interested in knowing what I was at).

I managed to get down to 189 lbs. That was a fucking trip.

This was around 20+ years ago.

But as any of us know who have been in the yo-yo game for a while, inevitably I started gaining that back. Got up into the 380's and then started bouncing around again.

Right now I'm on 15mg of tirzepatide and am down from 365 on January 1st to a bit under 315 now... my general goal is also 204.9 but actually 199 just because it's hilarious being under 200 lbs to me.

Those of us suffering from obesity generally have metabolisms and bodies that are one big non-stop "fuck off with your weight loss nonsense". Which sucks, but it's whatever. Really tough having your body play so hard against you. I'm glad these drugs are finally leveling the playing field there.

The article that always hit home for me was the one where they studied people from "The Biggest Loser" (10 years old but still really interesting)

Gifted link, no paywall:
 
Spork said:
Right now I'm on 15mg of tirzepatide and am down from 365 on January 1st to a bit under 315 now... my general goal is also 204.9 but actually 199 just because it's hilarious being under 200 lbs to me.

Those of us suffering from obesity generally have metabolisms and bodies that are one big non-stop "fuck off with your weight loss nonsense". Which sucks, but it's whatever. Really tough having your body play so hard against you. I'm glad these drugs are finally leveling the playing field there.
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Congratulations on your success! That’s freaking awesome weight loss in 5 months!

Yeah, I’ve thought about breaking the 200 lb barrier, but I’ve been at this for 17 months and I’m growing weary. Not that maintenance is going to be any easier, but if I could just get the to 204.9, I think I would be in a good place.

Yes, these medications finally level the playing field!
 
Grogu said:
Congratulations on your success! That’s freaking awesome weight loss in 5 months!

Yeah, I’ve thought about breaking the 200 lb barrier, but I’ve been at this for 17 months and I’m growing weary. Not that maintenance is going to be any easier, but if I could just get the to 204.9, I think I would be in a good place.

Yes, these medications finally level the playing field!
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Yeah, I mean have you thought of going hardcore "iron will" and eating at a severe deficit for a few weeks just to get you over the hump?

Obviously have to weigh (no pun intended) all the shit that goes along with that, and the psychological strain, but maybe if you set a finite goal it's something you could just white knuckle through?

Just thinking of all the things I've done in the past to lose weight. They work, sure, but then you just gain it back. Like I drank just protein shakes (4 per day) and was only taking in 720 calories a day - this is without any sort of GLP-1 help. It's not sustainable, but if you're getting nutrients from that and burning fat I figure there shouldn't be any hugely seriously long-term consequences or anything from that. I did that for 100 days and lost 90 lbs. (gained it all back - whee!)

MUCH harder to do now that you're so much closer to goal, but I could see myself doing something a little radical like that towards the end of this with the hopes that if you're on these meds for the rest of your life, it's actually reasonable to maintain the loss and not rebound.

I think anyone who has been struggling with their weight over many years, or their whole lives, ends up getting a little messed up in the head, so I know stuff I've done could appear absolutely bananas to someone who hasn't lived through it, so I know I might sound nuts, but I am just trying myself to plan ahead for any significant plateaus. I just want to be at a weight I want to be at and then finally maintain it and not do the stupid rebounding that has plagued me my entire life.
 
Im running low dose bi weekly reta....been stalling/slowing and expect a bigger stall in the next week or two. partly was operator error cuz i ate good this weekend and drank beers 2 weeks ago, but i think when that initial fat iceberg is shed youll start slowing down on the weight loss. I was literally losing 1/pound a day the first 2 weeks and feeling great too! Still gotta be disciplined though to let the drugs do what they do imo
 
If you are at a stall and countng calories consistently for a few weeks that is your TDEE for your actual activity level/exercise/etc. The error on TDEE calculators are more than typical calorie deficits. They are garbage. Another issue is that people have consistently shown an inability to count actual calories - meaning their eye is a poor judge. Actually measure/weigh and accurately track everything.


Then reassess. People far over estimate the worry about "starvation" mode for the body. People on glps are commonly in 1000-1500 calorie deficit losing 2-3lb per week, straight line weight loss. Adaptation happens but it is actually in the margins beyond related to the adaptation of a smaller body needing less calories.
 
staffn1 said:
If you are at a stall and countng calories consistently for a few weeks that is your TDEE for your actual activity level/exercise/etc. The error on TDEE calculators are more than typical calorie deficits. They are garbage. Another issue is that people have consistently shown an inability to count actual calories - meaning their eye is a poor judge. Actually measure/weigh and accurately track everything.


Then reassess. People far over estimate the worry about "starvation" mode for the body. People on glps are commonly in 1000-1500 calorie deficit losing 2-3lb per week, straight line weight loss. Adaptation happens but it is actually in the margins beyond related to the adaptation of a smaller body needing less calories.
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Bingo

Literally 💯 this post
 
ladyj779 said:
Yes. Sorry, I just love data, but here's like the last month, where I spend 3+ weeks at approximately 212. I kept eating the same 1200 odd calories. That was this month, but as of this am, 201. Just keep on keeping on, don't overthink or change a bunch of things, keep your calories where they need to be and it will come off.
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I’m very data driven like you are. I keep all my data in a dedicated spreadsheet that would probably make you think I’m autistic or ocd or something.

Daily logs of supplements/enhzncers/peptides, rhr, blood pressure, bfa scale measurements, daily calorie intake, weekly body tape measurements around all muscle groups…

Then I have additional sheets that smooth daily calorie and scale data over a rolling 5 day window and show me weekly momentum averages using the smoothed measurements so that I can correlate average weekly calorie intake to average weekly weight/fat/muscle gain.

tbh I’ve been able to recomp effortlessly with data like this, got down to 10-11%bf and have gained 15lbs in muscle since without any fat or glp1
 
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