Whiynot20026
GLP-1 Apprentice
Thinking about trying Tesamorelin down the road. Any dosing ideas and is it really only stable in a vial after mixing after a week. Non refrigerated.
Bill
Bill
Any Tesamorelin users in here.
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Airborne Daddy
GLP-1 Specialist
@Calm Logic... personally id refrigerate and kill that vial in a weekish.
CNCCurrency
GLP-1 Specialist
I did it for about five months before switching to hgh. It is supposed to do really well at room temps. Clinical dosing is 2mg before bed.
Whiynot20026
GLP-1 Apprentice
CNCCurrency
GLP-1 Specialist
Yes everyday, its fda approved for continuous use. I only switched because hgh costs much less
Airborne Daddy
GLP-1 Specialist
Except for the tests that showed bacteria growing exponentially after day 5/6 for reconstituted tesa at room temp right?
CNCCurrency
GLP-1 Specialist
Storing egrifta
- Store the Medication Box and Injection Box at room temperature at 68°F to 77°F (20°C to 25°C).
- Keep the EGRIFTA WRTM vials out of the light.
- Do not freeze or refrigerate EGRIFTA WRTM after it has been mixed with the Bacteriostatic Water for Injection.
Kirbyzx6
GLP-1 Apprentice
Key is 2 mg before bed without any food for 3 hrs. Stuff gets costly to run.
bonelifts
GLP-1 Apprentice
Tesa is great, both wife and I have had it as part of our protocol for as long as I can remember 6+months. Great sleep, even though visceral fat (helps suck in midsection), and also great vascularity. We both run 2mg nightly. And yes it is costly 😞
coach chickpea
GLP-1 Apprentice
Ive heard/read that it isnt stable very long but i usually only dose .5mg daily so my 10mg vials reconstituted with 2ml bac, last about 3 weeks and I havent noticed any concerns with mine. I also refrigerate it...I have not had any turn to gel
coach chickpea
GLP-1 Apprentice
If u use the typical 1mg daily dose, it should be done in 10days. Also if you are using a Glp, keep in mind this slows gastric emptying so being fasted after supper takes considerably longer. I prefer morning fasted, pin just b4 I train to amplify the pulse
PepGladiator
GLP-1 Apprentice
Tesa in the refrigerator has been hit and miss for me. Sometimes it gels (wasted two vials) and sometimes not - with the same type of BAC water. Moved to keeping it outside, in a dark cool place, and that has been the only good solution so far. So my opinion is for keeping it outside of the refrigerator once reconstituted.
myboysherman
GLP-1 Apprentice
I have only purchased one kit. I didn’t like the water weight so I stopped after five days and I did that twice. I froze reconstituted vial #2. I am on vial three and it’s been in the fridge for just over a week. All of the vials remained clear with refrigeration.
Dosing at night gave me crazy dreams/nightmares which I kinda liked but I was awake at 3:30 every night. I switched to morning fasted and it is amazing. Energy boost, mental clarity, hopefully better gains in my pathetic weight session.
I have a pen coming and I plan to stuff two or three weeks worth in it and toss it in the fridge. But I might thaw the frozen one first just to test it.
Anyway, I prefer 1.5mg + 375mcg ipamorelin in the morning with refrigeration.
Dosing at night gave me crazy dreams/nightmares which I kinda liked but I was awake at 3:30 every night. I switched to morning fasted and it is amazing. Energy boost, mental clarity, hopefully better gains in my pathetic weight session.
I have a pen coming and I plan to stuff two or three weeks worth in it and toss it in the fridge. But I might thaw the frozen one first just to test it.
Anyway, I prefer 1.5mg + 375mcg ipamorelin in the morning with refrigeration.
Whiynot20026
GLP-1 Apprentice
Thank you everyone. I’m excited and horrified all at once.
Bill
Bill
coach chickpea
GLP-1 Apprentice
I noticed i retain so much fluid with this vial that I did with the first few not sure why. But my fingers were so puffy.My nasal passages were completely congested. I stopped it two days ago.My fingers are back to normal.But nasal passages seem to be always the last thing to resolve for me anyways
myboysherman
GLP-1 Apprentice
Yeah, that sound terrible. My sides were much milder, but 1.5mg (with ipa as well) was my max injection. I did 1mg evening and morning on my first go and I had some minor pain in my knuckles, but otherwise nothing like that.
I’m late middle age so I’m probably pretty GH deficient at this point. Maybe I just have room for the added burst.
Whiynot20026
GLP-1 Apprentice
I decided to shit can the TSM. I’ve got max Tes levels so I’m sure my HGH is through the roof. Thank you for the feedback. By the way. Fasting daily cranks Tes and HGH plus lowers cholesterol and BP. Been doing it for years.
Bill
Bill
DragonOfTheSea
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I’m about to start my Tesa + Ipa cycle, and have been planning to pin first thing in the morning To ensure fasted state..
My question though, which I haven’t seen referenced at all is how long after dosing should I continue to be fasted before drinking my morning protein shake? Is it the same 2+hrs that is recommended before pinning PM? Or will I get the complete effect sooner than that and I can get my daily nutrition routine going?
Also planning on starting at 500mcg Tesa/250mcg Ipa and move to 1mg/.5mg- I also don’t see a lot of people referencing how much Ipa they take, only Tesa dosing most commonly between 1mg-2mg.. is this 2:1 ratio good or ?
I appreciate input, this is a newer peptide space for me.
My question though, which I haven’t seen referenced at all is how long after dosing should I continue to be fasted before drinking my morning protein shake? Is it the same 2+hrs that is recommended before pinning PM? Or will I get the complete effect sooner than that and I can get my daily nutrition routine going?
Also planning on starting at 500mcg Tesa/250mcg Ipa and move to 1mg/.5mg- I also don’t see a lot of people referencing how much Ipa they take, only Tesa dosing most commonly between 1mg-2mg.. is this 2:1 ratio good or ?
I appreciate input, this is a newer peptide space for me.
Whiynot20026
GLP-1 Apprentice
I’m no expert. But I eat between 12-8 daily. I would take these before you go to bed. Like three hours after your last meal. And don’t eat for atleast 12-14 hours during the fast. I do 16 hours and 8 of those hours is in a no food no insulin fast. All non digestive hormones are working hard for me during those 8 fasted hours.
Bill
chewonmysac
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I use Tirz. Delayed gastric emptying. So I took 2mg in the AM, fasted for 50 days. Just completed 2 weeks ago. My blood work rivaled HGH, and I lost 2 inches off my waist. Joints were sore, and carpal tunnel crept up in the last few weeks. Reconstituted and left the dark cabinet. Used the whole kit the exact same way.
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Whiynot20026
GLP-1 Apprentice
Wholly crap. I’ve been on Tirz for 6 weeks and my carpal tunnel is almost totally gone. I had it nightly before. The inflammation is so deceased now.
Bill
chewonmysac
GLP-1 Enthusiast
It is a know side effect for Tesamorelin. Even Tirz could not stop it.
Whiynot20026
GLP-1 Apprentice
Just because it's approved for daily use doesn't mean one has to use it daily. If your goal is to become Arnold, this isn't going to get you there. If your goal is to offset some muscle loss associated with GLP use (which is a complex and interesting topic to unpack all on its own), some amount of a *morelin could likely at least partially offset that.
Seems most who "get into" secretagogues like this move on to GH itself, but I suspect that's a selection bias kind of thing since most people are looking into in hopes of getting bigger (vs maintaining what they have). I think if I started experiencing water retention-style side effects (e.g. carpal tunnel or painful joints) I might question if my dosing and/or frequency is right from the POV that there could potentially be a different approach that balances the benefits of *morelins against the sides.
Are you proposing that's something unique to tesa VS peptides in general? I agree that refrigeration is generally preferred and most opposition to it is typically people who lack a chemistry background, know freezing can be harmful and reach the bizarre conclusion that if freezing is bad then maybe refrigerating is kind of bad. 🤣
I mean obviously there could be solubility/viscosity concerns (e.g. crystals coming out of solution and/or gelling), but that's more a function of the peptider not being aware that they could likely avoid that problem by simply reconstituting with a greater volume of water.
LongevitybroTX
GLP-1 Apprentice
egrifta does not = chinese tesa. It's formulation was specific to the way they formulated it. Tesa is a bit more touchy than other peptides (which is why you really need to stick to Hospira BAC water). But it's not magicalyl going to be contaminated and useless after a week. I wouldn't go past a month probably, but even a TSM20 kit is only going to last around 2-weeks and that's pretty commonly available.
Reconstitute with Hospira, chuck it in the fridge, and pin on!
Reconstitute with Hospira, chuck it in the fridge, and pin on!
LongevitybroTX
GLP-1 Apprentice
The serum half life is about 30 minutes (yes, the effect on the pituitary lasts much longer). This is just anecdotal but I wait around an hour, but that's just because I pin when I get up and I don't eat for at least an hour or so afterwards.
Vbjeff13
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Does the visceral / waist fat stay off after stoping if you stay active? I’m considering this but wouldn’t want to be in it long term.
Could you update us as you stay off it with what happens?
CNCCurrency
GLP-1 Specialist
Someone recently posted on the forum about fat cells having memory. So?
chewonmysac
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Cannot really answer that question. In the FDA trials the fat did return but that was expected because the AIDS medince that was causing the visceral fat build up and after Egrifta stopped the AIDS treatment continued. I plan on running few cycles a year.
Madkate
GLP-1 Apprentice
Been pinning 2mg Tesa and 150 mcg ipa 5days on and 2 off and results have been great so far
