Filtering Less Potent?

[UghItsStupidNIHateIT]

I just filtered Tirzepatide for the first time, and I swear it feels like I filtered all of the medication out. Has anyone else had this issue?

 

[Hotlongs]

Why did you filter the tirz instead of the the BAC water? It won't remove endotoxins....

 

[Chili777]

No, it shouldn't be. Peptide molecules are all smaller than .22u which is the filter pore size. Any bacteria are larger.

 

[Hotlongs]

No, it shouldn't be. Peptide molecules are all smaller than .22u which is the filter pore size. Any bacteria are larger.

Endotoxic bacterial fragments are usually smaller than .22mu though, noo?

 

[woundcarping]

Why did you filter the tirz instead of the the BAC water? It won't remove endotoxins....

Because the vial from the vendor could contain bacteria that the filter will remove, making it "sterile" from that perspective.

 

[UghItsStupidNIHateIT]

Why did you filter the tirz instead of the the BAC water? It won't remove endotoxins....

I filtered reconstituted tirz. Is that not right?

 

[woundcarping]

Endotoxic bacteria are usually smaller than .22mu though, noo?

Endotoxins are the vestigial remains of gram negative dead bacteria, not active bacteria.

 

[woundcarping]

I filtered reconstituted tirz. Is that not right?

It's absolutely correct.

 

[Chili777]

Endotoxic bacteria are usually smaller than .22mu though, noo?

Correct. Filtering does nothing for Endos, but it does remove bacteria, spores and any other nasties in the vial.

 

[UghItsStupidNIHateIT]

Because the vial from the vendor could contain bacteria that the filter will remove, making it "sterile" from that perspective.

Why would I filter straight BAC water?

 

[Hotlongs]

Why would I filter straight BAC water?

Same reasoning, there could be bacteria. Did you filter the solution back into the same vial it arrived in?

Because the vial from the vendor could contain bacteria that the filter will remove, making it "sterile" from that perspective.

I guess if they did not filter it back into the same vial without sterilizing it... But the endotoxic bacterial fragment would remain either way.

 

[UghItsStupidNIHateIT]

Same reasoning, there could be bacteria. Did you filter the solution back into the same vial it arrived in?

I use Hospira BAC water and filter into a new sterile vial. I can’t understand the reasoning behind filtering the BAC water but not the reconstituted peptide?

 

[Hotlongs]

I use Hospira BAC water and filter into a new sterile vial. I can’t understand the reasoning behind filtering the BAC water but not the reconstituted peptide?

Not everyone uses hospira bac. I don't trust the bac from vendors as much as I trust the peptide, which I also do not trust 100%. I am not advising you to do anything fwiw, I was asking from curiosity.

 

[UghItsStupidNIHateIT]

Same reasoning, there could be bacteria. Did you filter the solution back into the same vial it arrived in?


I guess if they did not filter it back into the same vial without sterilizing it... But the endotoxic bacterial fragment would remain either way.

So let me just make sure I’m understanding what you’re saying. You filter the bac water only, then reconstitute the peptide in the vendor container. And you do no further filtering from there. Is that right?

 

[woundcarping]

Why would I filter straight BAC water?

You absolutely wouldn't... it would be pointless. Reconstitute the peptide, filter the solution into a new vial. Done.

I guess if they did not filter it back into the same vial without sterilizing it... But the endotoxic bacterial fragment would remain either way.

You use a new, sterile vial. It's not practical to sterilize and reuse a vial.

Not everyone uses hospira bac. I don't trust the bac from vendors as much as I trust the peptide, which I also do not trust 100%. I am not advising you to do anything fwiw, I was asking from curiosity.

The BAC gets filtered while it carries the peptide in solution. There is no point in filtering the BAC before it reconstitutes the peptide.

 

[Hotlongs]

You absolutely wouldn't... it would be pointless. Reconstitute the peptide, filter the solution into a new vial. Done.




You use a new, sterile vial. It's not practical to sterilize and reuse a vial.




The BAC gets filtered while it carries the peptide in solution. There is no point in filtering the BAC before it reconstitutes the peptide.

You are saying you trust the vendor supplied BAC water vials as 100% sterile but not the peptide vials? There are reasons why people would filter the BAC water such as getting pharmacy-compounded peptides and not trusting the BAC for instance.

I have diluted meds for granular dosing this way.

 

[UghItsStupidNIHateIT]

Bro you are saying you trust the vendor supplied BAC water vials as 100% sterile but not the peptide vials? There are reasons why people would filter the BAC water such as getting compounded peptides and not trusting the BAC for instance.

My dude I think you might be missing the forest for the trees.

 

[Hotlongs]

So let me just make sure I’m understanding what you’re saying. You filter the bac water only, then reconstitute the peptide in the vendor container. And you do no further filtering from there. Is that right?

No, I did not say any of that???

 

[Hotlongs]

My dude I think you might be missing the forest for the trees.

I think you are misinterpreting my posts...

 

[Mood]

Bro you are saying you trust the vendor supplied BAC water vials as 100% sterile but not the peptide vials? There are reasons why people would filter the BAC water such as getting compounded peptides and not trusting the BAC for instance.

If you recon first and then filter into a new sterile vial, doesn't matter whether peptide and/or the bac isn't sterile because the new solution will be sterile in the new vial.

 

[UghItsStupidNIHateIT]

I think you are misinterpreting my posts...

Ok. That’s possible. Walk me through your filtering process.

 

[Grogu]

I just filtered Tirzepatide for the first time, and I swear it feels like I filtered all of the medication out. Has anyone else had this issue?

Are you sure you’re pinning the correct dose? Did you double check your maths?

Did you push the reconstituted contents through the filter very quickly?

 

[bay_area_schizo]

You are saying you trust the vendor supplied BAC water vials as 100% sterile but not the peptide vials? There are reasons why people would filter the BAC water such as getting pharmacy-compounded peptides and not trusting the BAC for instance.

I have diluted meds for granular dosing this way. Chillll.

ain't nobody with any experience on this sub filtering BAC water by itself bro. you're on an island with this methodology 😂

 

[CNCCurrency]

Why did you filter the tirz instead of the the BAC water? It won't remove endotoxins....

Say what?

 

[woundcarping]

You are saying you trust the vendor supplied BAC water vials as 100% sterile but not the peptide vials? There are reasons why people would filter the BAC water such as getting pharmacy-compounded peptides and not trusting the BAC for instance.

I have diluted meds for granular dosing this way. Chillll.

No, I'm saying you don't know what you're talking about. You're also not articulating your posts in a way that clearly conveys that lack of knowledge, making the original poster question things that they were doing correctly.


I also don't use vendor supplied BAC, but that's irrelevant. If I was using tap water, I'd still filter it with the peptide in solution, into a new vial.

 

[Hotlongs]

ain't nobody with any experience on this sub filtering BAC water by itself bro. you're on an island with this methodology 😂

Do you understand what I posted? I get pharmacy compounded glps that are premixed and filter chinese bought BAC into the solution to get more granular dosing because I do not trust chinese BAC.

Is that hard to understand?

I asked OP because I was curious to know more about his process. What is the damage?

 

[Hotlongs]

If you recon first and then filter into a new sterile vial, doesn't matter whether peptide and/or the bac isn't sterile because the new solution will be sterile in the new vial.

Yes I understand that which is why I asked OP if he put it into a sterile new vial or the original.

 

[CNCCurrency]

Do you understand what I posted? I get pharmacy compounded glps that are premixed and filter chinese bought BAC into the solution to get more granular dosing because I do not trust chinese BAC.

Is that hard to understand?

I asked OP because I was curious to know more about his process. What is your damage?

Not in your brain, everyone else on this planet wouldn't.

 

[Hotlongs]

Not in your brain, everyone else on this planet wouldn't.

Cool, I didn't ask you man. I don't understand why you people have such a bee in your bonnet over taking an extra precaution when handling Chinese bac and adding it to an existing solution.

What makes you think bacteria cannot be introduced to a random vial of BAC from a Chinese vendor? Their excellent quality control?

 

[CNCCurrency]

No, I did not say any of that???