Can you filter a peptide that has a grow?

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I was thinking about this, after experiencing my Tirze starting to have a growth (bought it reconstituted already from a local seller).

I was thinking if filters remove everything except endotoxins, would running a pep that has a grow through the filter would remove all spores and everything else, so that you could keep using the solution?

Or when having a growth in the solution inherently means that there are now endotoxins floating in the vial?

Not trying to save a couple bucks just trying to understand, limitations of the filtering process.
 
Surely you jest?

Filtering won't save this vial. By the time you can see growth, endotoxins are already dissolved in the solution. A 0.22µm filter doesn't touch them. They're nanometer-scale molecules, not particles. You'd be injecting a sterile-looking solution that still contains pyrogens capable of causing fever, rigors, or worse. The organisms were shedding endotoxins the whole time they were growing in there.

Discard it. The math doesn't change based on cost or convenience.
 
Not only should you worry about endotoxins and metabolites now in the solution, but the critters were eating something to grow to a visible size. They've been consuming the peptides in the vial. Not only is there potentially poison now in the vial, at least some of the good stuff is gone.
 
I was thinking about this, after experiencing my Tirze starting to have a growth (bought it reconstituted already from a local seller).

I was thinking if filters remove everything except endotoxins, would running a pep that has a grow through the filter would remove all spores and everything else, so that you could keep using the solution?

Or when having a growth in the solution inherently means that there are now endotoxins floating in the vial?

Not trying to save a couple bucks just trying to understand, limitations of the filtering process.
You don't know what that is, so you don't want to take a chance. Maybe contact them & let them know as well & see if they will do anything for you
 
Toss out without further contemplation.

This also says a lot about buying from a "local seller" (= profit-seeking uncaring moron) vs doing the time-consuming learning on how to procure, reconstitute, store and use peptides and their required supplies.
 
Ok, so let me get this straight, I was using the vial before I saw any grow. Someone mentioned that they were most likely endotoxins before anything became visible to the naked eye. And reading about endotoxins that means, I was lucky not to get some reaction before when I started to used this vial? Or not necessarily the reaction was going to be bad just because there was growth?
 
Ok, so let me get this straight, I was using the vial before I saw any grow. Someone mentioned that they were most likely endotoxins before anything became visible to the naked eye. And reading about endotoxins that means, I was lucky not to get some reaction before when I started to used this vial? Or not necessarily the reaction was going to be bad just because there was growth?
No real way of knowing. You could've pinned when it was sterile and show how became contaminated after, or you could have gotten lucky.

Either way, you wouldn't eat food with something growing on it, you definitely should not ever inject anything with something growing in it. That's a recipe for disaster.

Toss it, argue with whomever sold it to you, or take the L and learn from the lesson. This is a serious thing you're doing, taking control of your health and your protocol, don't take it lightly.

Its better to be overly cautious (although, it seems to me, it would be more common sense than caution) than to get sick as hell... Or worse.

If you can, put a picture up of the growth, I'm eager to see what the hell is possibly growing in your vial lol.
 
To me it looks like mold. I already discarded the vial and I wasn't planning on trying to salvage it.

I was trying to understand if something like this gets filtered,and becomes viable again or not.
And also understand if I was pinning something that was contaminated from the get go. I had this vial for about 4 and half weeks before it started growing. It was T80
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To me it looks like mold. I already discarded the vial and I wasn't planning on trying to salvage it.

I was trying to understand if something like this gets filtered,and becomes viable again or not.
And also understand if I was pinning something that was contaminated from the get go. I had this vial for about 4 and half weeks before it started growing. It was T80
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This actually looks like peptide precipitation. Tirz is a large and fragile chain of amino acids, if your fridge got too cold and froze it after it was reconstituted (or the pen got left out and got too hot, either/or) the peptide denatured and the chain broke and fell out of the bac water. When this happens the peptide is all but inert and useless, and the aminos in the peptide will clump together in that fibrous clump. That's my best guess and what I'm looking at, but it could also be fungus or bacteria or something else.

Either way, it's gone man..
 
Please do not use it, it might not be bacteria or fungal growth, but even a small chance it might be is way too large a risk. Injecting anything directly bypasses your normal immune system defences, so even small numbers of bugs or toxins are not a good idea once under the skin.

It might be peptide fibrils , but there is no way to be sure and even if it is there is no way to know what dose you would be getting if you used it if some has clumped together. How big is a 80mg clump of tirz?? I have no idea but 80mg is not a lot.

Either way chuck it and get some from a reputable popular seller.
 
I agree that it looks like mold, which could be filtered out. There is no guarantee that filtering would remove mold derived chemicals, mycotoxins, enzymes, metabolic byproducts, and cellular debris. The answer is to toss it.
 

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