Your Dr’s opinions?

[Socram1578]

Out of curiosity, for those that regularly have dr’s visits and checkups, do you discuss your pep intake with them? Or do your keep that info to yourself? If you do discuss what have been some of their responses? Just debating whether to discuss with Dr. Thanks for your input. 👍🏻

 

[Flash-BCR]

Out of curiosity, for those that regularly have dr’s visits and checkups, do you discuss your pep intake with them? Or do your keep that info to yourself? If you do discuss what have been some of their responses? Just debating whether to discuss with Dr. Thanks for your input. 👍🏻

I got my first 2 months of Tirz from my primary care Doc.. 😎 They had compounded syringes with B12 and sent me home with 4 after same day visit...they were pricey, but it gave me an easy on ramp to try them out and see if it was going to work for me...

 

[Socram1578]

I got my first 2 months of Tirz from my primary care Doc.. 😎 They had compounded syringes with B12 and sent me home with 4 after same day visit...they were pricey, but it gave me an easy on ramp to try them out and see if it was going to work for me...

Nice, were you taking any other peps at the time that you talked to him about?

 

[endlrls]

Out of curiosity, for those that regularly have dr’s visits and checkups, do you discuss your pep intake with them? Or do your keep that info to yourself? If you do discuss what have been some of their responses? Just debating whether to discuss with Dr. Thanks for your input. 👍🏻

I have not... he doesn't even know that I'm on Tirzepatide. We switched insurance at work and my prior APNP did write me a script for the Pen version so if I ever do "bring it to light" I have that as my defense. My labs in May came back UBER good... like the best they have ever looked so as long a I'm getting my blood-work done I'm not too worried about it.

The other peps I haven't mentioned either... (SS31, MOTS-C, BPC/TB).. but my current doctor is actually very knowledgeable of the newer medical literature so I think I can trust him when the time is right. I may be wrong but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it 😅 😅

 

[Socram1578]

I have not... he doesn't even know that I'm on Tirzepatide. We switched insurance at work and my prior APNP did write me a script for the Pen version so if I ever do "bring it to light" I have that as my defense. My labs in May came back UBER good... like the best they have ever looked so as long a I'm getting my blood-work done I'm not too worried about it.

The other peps I haven't mentioned either... (SS31, MOTS-C, BPC/TB).. but my current doctor is actually very knowledgeable of the newer medical literature so I think I can trust him when the time is right. I may be wrong but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it 😅 😅

I kinda think that’s gonna be the general opinion, not discussing with your dr. I also wonder if discussing and he or she putting it into your file could affect insurance in the future.

 

[endlrls]

I couldn't agree more... Yeah, there is stuff that I do and I don't want a record off.. I'm sure many people are like that...

The insurance thing is wild as well. My job just switched insurance and the old insurance use to charge us a yearly fee if we didn't jump through hoops to get a bio-metric screening done.. literally would charge us $800 more a year... Usually a company would compensate/congratulate one for doing it.

I'm glad that we switched to a new provider

 

[spanky2026]

I had a bad enough experience recently with my doc that I'm firing him. Told him about Tirz and he simply refused to even discuss it. At all. Didn't want to know about how much I'd lost, any side effects, diet or exercise, when I bought it up he just changed the subject. Repeatedly. I'm guessing he's concerned about liability since I told him I was getting it compounded (at the time, I've since gone grey), but still ....you're my primary care doc and you don't want to talk about this transformation of your patient, right in front of your eyes??

I've read enough to know his response was...abnormal at best. Lots of reports of very supportive, open docs. I'll start looking for one of those.

 

[Flash-BCR]

Nice, were you taking any other peps at the time that you talked to him about?

Nope...the tirz was my gateway pep drug 😎 At present, I am only doing tirz, BPC and KPV plus a Selank spray...But, I have queued up all the usual pep suspects in the inventory...But I have always been open in talking with doctors.

 

[FunkyOtter]

Nope. I also didn't tell them when I was doing health spa stuff. As long as my bloodwork comes back fine, which I do a few times a year on my own as well, I personally don't see a need to.

 

[endlrls]

Nope. I also didn't tell them when I was doing health spa stuff. As long as my bloodwork comes back fine, which I do a few times a year on my own as well, I personally don't see a need to.

That's the way I'm looking at it.. if my blood work came back and it was NOT GOOD I would be like: "Hey Doc, lets have a talk.. and by talk I mean an open discussion between us about my "Lab Rat" and his use...." 😅 😅 🐀🐀

 

[endlrls]

I had a bad enough experience recently with my doc that I'm firing him. Told him about Tirz and he simply refused to even discuss it. At all. Didn't want to know about how much I'd lost, any side effects, diet or exercise, when I bought it up he just changed the subject. Repeatedly. I'm guessing he's concerned about liability since I told him I was getting it compounded (at the time, I've since gone grey), but still ....you're my primary care doc and you don't want to talk about this transformation of your patient, right in front of your eyes??

I've read enough to know his response was...abnormal at best. Lots of reports of very supportive, open docs. I'll start looking for one of those.

It's so wild... either it's "Hey, great for you!" or "WHAT?? moving on to another subject..." (Doctor checks his Malpractice insurance coverage) haha

 

[Grogu]

I couldn't agree more... Yeah, there is stuff that I do and I don't want a record off.. I'm sure many people are like that...

I 100% agree. I really don’t want the use of CN peptides in my medical history. I think that the risk is low right now, but not sure if that data could be later used against me, like in life insurance decisions, insurance eligibility, etc.

But as @endlrls mentions, a practical issue arises because your healthcare providers “should” really know about the use of peptides. My “solution” thus far has been to include tirzepatide use in my medical history. So, when I go to various doctors (and I have a few) I tell them that I’m on tirzepatide as it could affect things like anethesia, other Rx contra-indications, etc.

For my pcp, she knows, but thinks I’m getting my meds from my nutritionist 😂. Just to “cover” my tracks, I have a telemedicine company send a Lilly Direct Rx in every month that I never fill. Or almost never fill. I was curious about the new KwikPen so I got one of those.

 

[endlrls]

I 100% agree. I really don’t want the use of CN peptides in my medical history. I think that the risk is low right now, but not sure if that data could be later used against me, like in life insurance decisions, insurance eligibility, etc.

But as @endlrls mentions, a practical issue arises because your healthcare providers “should” really know about the use of peptides. My “solution” thus far has been to include tirzepatide use in my medical history. So, when I go to various doctors (and I have a few) I tell them that I’m on tirzepatide as it could affect things like anethesia, other Rx contra-indications, etc.

For my pcp, she knows, but thinks I’m getting my meds from my nutritionist 😂. Just to “cover” my tracks, I have a telemedicine company send a Lilly Direct Rx in every month that I never fill. Or almost never fill. I was curious about the new KwikPen so I got one of those.

Yeah, I should have kept that script from my past doctor but I simply was like "welp, I'm switched GP's now.. oh well..." Eventually I will tell my current GP.. I swear! (maybe not)

 

[ThunderBird]

I have a report printed out of everything I do bloodwork and all stacks, dosing, drug interactions, blood pressure, general trends, like everything a doctor would want to see. And my primary care is a big chiller like the biggest chiller, at the end of my appointment he asks what “Special sports supplements” I’m currently taking and I give him my report he looks it over and will tell to look at a few things but typically it’s a thumbs up. But he is definitely a special case, before he was a doctor he was a bodybuilder and physical therapist so he gets it. Nothing gets entered into my medical records 😃.

 

[Socram1578]

I couldn't agree more... Yeah, there is stuff that I do and I don't want a record off.. I'm sure many people are like that...

The insurance thing is wild as well. My job just switched insurance and the old insurance use to charge us a yearly fee if we didn't jump through hoops to get a bio-metric screening done.. literally would charge us $800 more a year... Usually a company would compensate/congratulate one for doing it.

I'm glad that we switched to a new provider

That’s how I’m feeling. I did ask him his thoughts on Reta and went off about trial drugs and side effects. Left it at that. I figure if my bloodwork is 💯 then why even bring it up.

 

[mybodyisasewer]

My doctor takes medicaid and medicare money, which means he works for the government so I treat him the same way I would treat a police officer.

My doctor takes money from my insurance company, not me, so he works for the insurance company. He will chart/report my misdeeds and it could jeopardize my coverage down the road, so I also treat him the same way I would treat a snitch.

What does this look like in practice? I go for my annual physical. I bring my private blood labs that I got that year so he can upload them, but only when there is nothing incriminating on it. (My 9.5 ng/mL GH blood test never made it to his chart, for example.) I've had the same doc for several years now and he no longer asks me why I do this. I do not report my marijuana use, I don't tell him about my hobbies. These guys are now trained to ask patients if they have firearms at home. (WTF is that?? Of course I have no firearm at home, I brought it with me 🙄)

I only speak to him when asked a question, and I only tell the truth if I think it will suit me. Otherwise I tell him what he wants to hear. Rarely, I have had medical conditions which actually required a doctor, for example an infection that required antibiotics, I also broke my foot years ago and went for xrays. In these instances, the smartest move is to seek help for things which actually require help.

Doctors are a tool, not a teammate. They get used for awful things all the time (APA peeps working gitmo, circumcision, you get the idea). I wish it wasn't this way, but I play to win, and this is the system I was presented with.

Remember, under the law, there is only ONE person who is required to keep your secrets, and that's your lawyer. Never lie to your lawyer, they are your only friend. Attorney - client privilege is so strong that it makes doctor - patient confidentiality look like toilet paper.

And one last thing I would like to add: if you are unsure about your health, it might be best to rely on your doctor anyway, just know the risks. The only reason I'm like this is because I am confident in my ability to manage my own health. If that calculus ever changes I will probably be more forthcoming with them.

 

[reta-stacker]

I had a bad enough experience recently with my doc that I'm firing him. Told him about Tirz and he simply refused to even discuss it. At all. Didn't want to know about how much I'd lost, any side effects, diet or exercise, when I bought it up he just changed the subject. Repeatedly. I'm guessing he's concerned about liability since I told him I was getting it compounded (at the time, I've since gone grey), but still ....you're my primary care doc and you don't want to talk about this transformation of your patient, right in front of your eyes??

I've read enough to know his response was...abnormal at best. Lots of reports of very supportive, open docs. I'll start looking for one of those.

What a bizarre response from your doc. Maybe he viewed a more in-depth discussion as risky to him from a liability perspective, or perhaps he wanted to do more research before weighing in on the subject...? Regardless, it seems cavalier of him not to want to learn about your experiences.

 

[professorpeppy]

UK here so NHS, so no insurance issue.

I just call it mounjaro. they dont ask further than that. doctors care here isnt very good because its not paid for directly, they just want you out the door as soon as possible, so i dont discuss. not through lack of trying, they just do. not. care.

i have mentioned reta as i have tachycardia - same again they dont care at all lol

 

[reta-stacker]

It's interesting listening to these comments as a Canadian. I have a family doctor (many Canadians do not, most of us have a group of docs associated with a clinic) recently assigned to me by our provincial healthcare system. My first appointment with her is coming up, and I requested the appointment mostly because of my recent uptake of peptides. I want her to review my current health condition in light of peptide usage and to adjust my current suite of meds as required. I fully expect her to tsk-tsk my use of peptides, as she probably should as a responsible healthcare provider, but then accept the fact and adjust treatment accordingly. As a Canadian, I know there is no risk of the possibility of later being denied care or coverage under the provincial healthcare system.

 

[chest rockwell]

as a type 2 diabetic, I will probably not volunteer my use of grey triz unless he specifically asked what I have been doing. When I was diagnosed, he prescribed me Ozempic when I asked if I would be a good fit. after a few months he would never up my dosage after I told him that I couldn't even tell I was taking it. During that time, my employer switched insurance that would not cover without jumping through tons of hoops.
I told my doctor I would pay whatever, but Just up my dosage and he refused. even said I didn't need it and should try to loose weight the hard way. ( this coming from a dr who himself is type 2 and weighs a minimum of 350lbs).
I switched to Telehealth who I got triz from. It worked wonders but they recently cut me off when they found out I was on insulin ( they must be able to see what I have been prescribed).
I had already started stocking up on grey when it looked like big pharmacy and FDA was starting to make it more difficult to obtain GLP1s without draining your bank account.

Have a physical scheduled for next week, so we will see what happens.

 

[tubby]

I switched to Telehealth who I got triz from. It worked wonders but they recently cut me off when they found out I was on insulin ( they must be able to see what I have been prescribed).

That's some next level liability reduction there. Could understand them being hesitant to prescribe that combo, but if you're already taking both and haven't killed yourself it's kind of wild that they'd remove it.

Although not surprised that they'd remove the tirz rather than the insulin. After all, big picture: Insulin (as a type 2) makes you gain weight and makes your health worse (e.g. more revenue), while tirz makes you lose weight and makes your health better (e.g. less revenue).

 

[rkbleddyn]

My Dr. and his partner, just two of them at the practice are very open to peptides and both use them themselves. I talk to my Dr. often about peptides. He knows I use them, he uses them. Of course he cannot prescribe or recommend any of them (well he prescribes my Tirz), but they are very open to peptides. They broke away from the monopolized hospital system many years ago and opened their own practice as a functional medicine concierge type service. The only useful doctor I have ever had. We work as a team and he listens to me. None of that 'doctor's orders' just do this because that's what I have written down here as it is what the hospital system and pharm companies want and every other 'doctor' does'. They do not take insurance, but office visits are included, some blood draws they do in the office, and I get a good discount on testing. They also make house calls if necessary and deliver meds.

Only thing I can say is that if you have one of those big hospital controlled doctors who tell you that HRT or TRT will give you cancer... And you need to be on a statin right now, and don't touch peptides, any vitamins, or supplements because not FDA approved... And they never even discuss nutrition and lifestyle... RUN the F away as fast as you can.

 

[Stace_wow]

Out of curiosity, for those that regularly have dr’s visits and checkups, do you discuss your pep intake with them? Or do your keep that info to yourself? If you do discuss what have been some of their responses? Just debating whether to discuss with Dr. Thanks for your input. 👍🏻

Yeaaaahhhhhhh my sister is my "doctor" She's an NP, and as a fat, I am not particularly at peace with the medical system where I live. I find that doctors do not listen to me about my own body that I live in 24/7 and that pisses me off.

 

[FartfulCodger]

I think most doctors are very much in favor of FDA-approved GLP-1 meds. My stepfather, a doctor, was the one who recommended it to me. But I'm never going to tell him about all the other peptides that I started a few months later. Even if a doctor tacitly approves of a peptide, he/she has to give the "official" answer, which is "never take anything unless it's FDA approved, and make sure you get it from a legit pharmacy."

 

[Collo4sho]

I have 2 pcp, one through v.a. who I don't trust at all. My civilian pcp is a pretty cool dude, has recently lost weight and put on muscle. I may ask him for some advanced blood work and ask his stance on certain peptides. I'd like to know more about how the stuff is affecting me (or not) and to possibly plan for future expanded use of peptides, or trt.

 

[AllCourtTENNIS]

I struggled for almost 2 years to get perimenopause hormone replacement FROM MY GYNECOLOGIST. Jesus f-ing Christ there is not the slightest chance I'm asking a doctor what they think about peptides.

 

[Neurogroot]

One of my regular golf pals is a doctor, pretty high up in the area. Months ago, I naively asked his opinion on these things. He told me that a licensed, board certified physician will only approve of (on the record) the GLPs that have cleared all FDA trials, most other peptides that are FDA cleared and have DEA guidance documented (he deals with sermorelin at times). A doctor should never advise "Yeah, hit that Cerebrolysin. Let's get you started on FOX-DRI." Could be liability, could be they don't believe in peptide therapy, whatever.

OFF record, if you are responsible, taking the generally safe ones and truly feel better, while keeping up monitoring and preventative care... wellness is very important.

That's how I approach it with doctors now.

 

[rkbleddyn]

I struggled for almost 2 years to get perimenopause hormone replacement FROM MY GYNECOLOGIST. Jesus f-ing Christ there is not the slightest chance I'm asking a doctor what they think about peptides.

Let me guess, your Gyn told you that hormones cause cancer? I fired the last 'doctor' who told me that, on the spot and walked out. No more mainstream glorified pharm company reps parading around as 'doctors' for me.

 

[AllCourtTENNIS]

Let me guess, your Gyn told you that hormones cause cancer? I fired the last 'doctor' who told me that, on the spot and walked out. No more mainstream glorified pharm company reps parading around as 'doctors' for me.

Omg it felt so crazy to me, like I had to convince a dentist to fill a cavity.

 

[rkbleddyn]

Omg it felt so crazy to me, like I had to convince a dentist to fill a cavity.

My wife is a foreign national who has been a US citizen since 2 years after we were married in 2010.

Her Dr. in her country of origin had put her on testosterone because hers was basically non-existent. She told me this and wanted to see a Gyn.

I told her 'don't waste your time, we have to go to a clinic that does HRT'. She wouldn't listen to me because she just could not believe what I was telling her based on her own experience.

So we went to a Gyn at one of the major hospitals in our area and when she brought up the testosterone, it was like she asked for heroin. 'We don't give people hormones, they cause cancer!'. LOL. My wife was shocked by this. Then we went to a clinic and they put her on HRT pellets, no questions asked. Now we have a GP who will do that.