Damn, I had never heard of TRT's honeymoon phase. I have only noticed a slight improvement in sleep and tone, but no increase in libido.That first two months is awesome. I think half of it is psychological (the relief/satisfaction of finally being on it) and the other half physiological (your body still producing while TRT is poured on top). As your body's production winds down, the honeymoon period also winds down. Keeping a journal helps you remember what you felt like before starting so you don't somehow believe it's no longer working at 6 mos. Many guys expect that honeymoon high to be permanent and then, when things level out and they feel just normal, they begin to think "this is expensive" and/or "this routine is inconvenient" and they quit.
Are you taking any aromatase inhibitor?Damn, I had never heard of TRT's honeymoon phase. I have only noticed a slight improvement in sleep and tone, but no increase in libido.
I live in way upstate NY; I’ll have to check if they have any close by.When getting testing through Goodlabs, which labs are you most commonly getting? Do you do the "Men's" panel, or a la carte selections of specific tests?
No, I was subscribed to a 1 mg tablet of anastrozole by TRTnation in case I noticed any estrogen or titty pain.Are you taking any aromatase inhibitor?
Get your blood/hormones done before you even consider trt especially if you don’t know what you’re doing. Keep on losing weight as the weight is what causing the problems you’re encountering. Eat clean start training.37 years old, 6'4", CW: 310lbs, GW: 225lbs
Current meds: 2mg Tirz, 1mg Reta, 5mg Tadalafil (Cialis) daily for cardio health and gym pumps
I have never had my hormones tested. I don't have any dramatic symptoms of low test, but basically general mental health issues, no morning wood, low energy and motivation... generally mid-life attributed types of things. I have always been overweight, diagnosed Bipolar at my heaviest of 390 in 2022. I have always attributed a large portion of my mental health issues to my weight, and they have greatly improved with the weight loss so far. So, I am assuming things will only get better as I lose more fat mass.
My question: Should I wait until I get leaner before exploring hormones/test issues? As in, will my current fat content largely influence my hormones to a point where I could have decently stable levels once leaner? I worry about going on TRT and ruining my natural production before getting to a point where I could have possibly been fine on my own. Do docs take this into consideration?
My trials through dealing with Bipolar disorder have greatly shaken my confidence in the medical world, the definition of darts at a dart board, shoulder shrugs when things don't work, and poor response to regular blood testing that indicated issues but still had me stay the course, which led to acute liver failure. And this has been my experience with a variety of providers. So, I am not super trusting of white coats alone.
Appreciate any input.
Interesting. Well, everyone's different. At the end of your first 90 days, you need to review the ADAMS questionnaire https://www.nature.com/articles/ijir200935 and see how you feel. Those results can be read against your blood lab work and the Dr will adjust your protocol.Damn, I had never heard of TRT's honeymoon phase. I have only noticed a slight improvement in sleep and tone, but no increase in libido.
Are you sure they prescribed you 1mg? That is a heavy dose. For small e2 adjustments, smaller dosages of .125mg are common. Crashing e2 is worse than high e2.No, I was subscribed to a 1 mg tablet of anastrozole by TRTnation in case I noticed any estrogen or titty pain.
I am about 6 weeks into my TRT and libido is through the roof! Started building about 2 weeks ago. I had heard about this as well. My wife is loving it, I just hope it doesn't wane too much. How long have you been on it and what dose?Damn, I had never heard of TRT's honeymoon phase. I have only noticed a slight improvement in sleep and tone, but no increase in libido.
Yep, they want you to split them.Are you sure they prescribed you 1mg? That is a heavy dose. For small e2 adjustments, smaller dosages of .125mg are common. Crashing e2 is worse than high e2.
I was in the low 300s TT and my Uro started me at 70mg/wk and the first couple months was a noticeable improvement! After 90 days I moved up to 100mg/wk and held there for 5 years and just moved up to 150/wk. I have never needed to manage estrogen. Just my honest opinion, if your clinic puts your weekly dose at a level that involves a Rx for an AI "just in case you need it" then that clinic is pushing the envelope on the dose.... There is a lot to pay attention to, especially constant bloodwork and possible add-ons to minimize the effects of Estrogen. ... Total test is 417, and free is 5.7.
I am in my 4th week right now, 120mg/week test cyp. I was tested, and my total test was 285 ng/dL, and free was 9.4 ng/dL. So, I decided to move forward. I agree that a large portion of my issues are from the weight I am carrying. I am now 90 lbs down from my heaviest, and there are big improvements for sure, but I am seeking more mental improvements. The physical benefits are a nice bonus.Get your blood/hormones done before you even consider trt especially if you don’t know what you’re doing. Keep on losing weight as the weight is what causing the problems you’re encountering. Eat clean start training.
Whilst it is true that test gives you a great feeling especially confidence take it from me (yes a stranger on the internet) I messed up a post cycle therapy and have screwed my fertility. It’s reversible but gonna take a while.
...I started at 120mg/weekly SQ, split 3x. My 8 week labs were great, aside from DHT being low. I bumped my dose to 180mg/week. My labs Monday showed my hematocrit is up to 51.1, I didn’t do a hormone panel, that’ll be next month....
...I haven’t done anything to control estrogen although I have AI on hand. Unless I find symptoms, I’m not particularly worried about my E2. The only current symptom I’m have, in the last couple weeks, is my Oura ring being tighter when I sleep. Same thing happened when I started, gained 3lb overnight, classic signs of water retention. It resolved in early March, as expected. I’ll have a hormone panel done next month at 8 weeks at this dose and see how I’m doing.
...Also the symptoms to watch for regarding E2 is helpful to know, and watching for water weight swings. Appreciate all that!
| Marker | 03-16-2026 | 05-18-2026 | Change |
|---|---|---|---|
| Weight | 247lb | 227lb | -20 |
| Total Testosterone | 680.8 ng/dL | 774 ng/dL | +93.2 |
| Free Testosterone | 23.4 pg/mL | 24.4 pg/mL | +1.0 |
| Estradiol Sensitive | 26.2 pg/mL | 21.0 pg/mL | -5.2 |
| SHBG | 18.6 nmol/L | 24.3 nmol/L | +5.7 |
| DHT | 20ng/dL | Pending | — |
| Hematocrit | 48.3% | 56.4% | +8.1 |
Hema is very high... Donating will get it down maybe 5 points but it will creep back up.Still waiting on my DHT results from last Monday's labs, but going from 120mg/week to 180mg/week raised my hematocrit to the point of donating blood Tuesday. I'll go tomorrow to see what my levels are after donation.
I started supplemental creatine at the end of April... I'm expecting I've got an extra 3-6lb of lean mass from that, but haven't confirmed that with a DEXA yet.
Marker 03-16-2026 05-18-2026 Change Weight 247lb 227lb -20 Total Testosterone 680.8 ng/dL 774 ng/dL +93.2 Free Testosterone 23.4 pg/mL 24.4 pg/mL +1.0 Estradiol Sensitive 26.2 pg/mL 21.0 pg/mL -5.2 SHBG 18.6 nmol/L 24.3 nmol/L +5.7 DHT 20ng/dL Pending — Hematocrit 48.3% 56.4% +8.1
Hema is very high... Donating will get it down maybe 5 points but it will creep back up.
Did you take the lab after pinning? If you did that could be a peak.
You need pound water like your life dependent on it.
How frequent are you pinning?
| Date | HCT |
|---|---|
| 12-30-2025 | 49.4 |
| 03-16-2026 | 48.3 |
| 04-07-2026 | 53.3 |
| 04-20-2026 | 51.1 |
| 05-18-2026 | 56.4 |
Yeah, I’m suppose to split them. But I haven’t felt any titty pain or seen any overgrowth of back hair yet to take itYep, they want you to split them.
I don't think estrogen commonly causes back hair...Yeah, I’m suppose to split them. But I haven’t felt any titty pain or seen any overgrowth of back hair yet to take it
Yeah, that’s what the prescribing nurse told me lol. I didn't think that was a thing myself.I don't think estrogen commonly causes back hair...
Yeah, that’s what the prescribing nurse told me lol. I didn't think that was a thing myself.

if your drinking enough water and doing enough cardio then the next thing to change is to switch to subq injections from IM. Subq will have slower up take than IM and produce more steady levels.Well, got my partial 6-week blood results back, and the blood is indeed thickening:
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It's possible that it's an elevated level from dehydration. I have such a hard time with it on these GLP1s. This is on 120mg test cyp split shots, 4x 30mg per week. Yet to see what the hormone side looks like, but wanted to see what success folks have had lowering hematocrit without donating. I really don't want to get into that rebound cycle.
EDIT: Hematocrit was 46.6 previously, for context.
I’m doing 4 sub q per week already. I tested yesterday (Friday) before my injection, last injection was Wednesday morning. I definitely need to up my water and I can always use more cardio. I guess those are my next goals.if your drinking enough water and doing enough cardio then the next thing to change is to switch to subq injections from IM. Subq will have slower up take than IM and produce more steady levels.
How long was your last injection from the blood test day?
Typically injections are Mon,Wed,Friday and test days are Monday. This way you give 2 days for levels to stable out, not to capture peaks levels, before doing blood work.
What did your total test/free come back as on 120mg?I’m doing 4 sub q per week already. I tested yesterday (Friday) before my injection, last injection was Wednesday morning. I definitely need to up my water and I can always use more cardio. I guess those are my next goals.
Still awaiting those results. I am anxious to see where I'm at as I am nervous to increase dosage with these results on the blood thickness. Again, there are still levers I can pull to correct, but we shall see.What did your total test/free come back as on 120mg?
One thing thing is to check your blood pressure. If you have good read outs then hema levels become less worrisome.Still awaiting those results. I am anxious to see where I'm at as I am nervous to increase dosage with these results on the blood thickness. Again, there are still levers I can pull to correct, but we shall see.
The overall advice I keep hearing is not to donate if possible.
I really want to focus on good hydration and fitness the next six weeks and recheck CBC and see where it lands.
Good post and to be honest being over weighr has allot to play in erectile dysfunction and way more then I think studies are telling us.37 years old, 6'4", CW: 310lbs, GW: 225lbs
Current meds: 2mg Tirz, 1mg Reta, 5mg Tadalafil (Cialis) daily for cardio health and gym pumps
I have never had my hormones tested. I don't have any dramatic symptoms of low test, but basically general mental health issues, no morning wood, low energy and motivation... generally mid-life attributed types of things. I have always been overweight, diagnosed Bipolar at my heaviest of 390 in 2022. I have always attributed a large portion of my mental health issues to my weight, and they have greatly improved with the weight loss so far. So, I am assuming things will only get better as I lose more fat mass.
My question: Should I wait until I get leaner before exploring hormones/test issues? As in, will my current fat content largely influence my hormones to a point where I could have decently stable levels once leaner? I worry about going on TRT and ruining my natural production before getting to a point where I could have possibly been fine on my own. Do docs take this into consideration?
My trials through dealing with Bipolar disorder have greatly shaken my confidence in the medical world, the definition of darts at a dart board, shoulder shrugs when things don't work, and poor response to regular blood testing that indicated issues but still had me stay the course, which led to acute liver failure. And this has been my experience with a variety of providers. So, I am not super trusting of white coats alone.
Appreciate any input.
Grapefruit extract is all good but using blood pressure meds it doesn't go well together.I've been on trt for 14 years and have tried a variety of things re hct and hemo. My previous endo had me on 70mg/week because my hct was slightly elevated (52) on 100mg/week. The dose was too low so I was getting negatives without all the positives. I decided to swap to trt nation and self-manage. I've been doing trt over a decade, I'm not a stranger. Currently running 70mg x 2 per week. Making sure to stay hydrated. Also taking grapefruit seed extract morning and night. Last labs came back at 51.2 hct, 16.7 hemo. That was also fasted, so likely less hydrated than normal. So double the trt dose and decrease in hct, and feeling good.
I'll donate blood next week just to help keep it on the lower side too, but probably not necessary.
I also bought an at-home hemo meter and check it every few days. Often times we know ourselves best and need to do what we know is best.
In terms of AI, trt nation usually includes it in case so you don't have to wait on a separate script if you do end up needing it. They also wrote my script for 200mg/wk but said to start lower and I can always bump up if needed. If not, the bottle will just last longer.