Stubborn Belly Fat

[miameow]

Virtually every cancer researcher would think HGH and the other GH peptides are a horrible idea for long-term recreational use:

When Friends Ask: "Why Don't You Drink Milk?" - Dr. McDougall

Read the latest on serious health-related issues and what you can do about them. Hear success stories from people who were helped by the McDougall Program.

www.drmcdougall.com

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1100/tsw.2010.8

Same with urologists regarding HGH and prostate growth, especially if on TRT as well. Same with cardiologists regarding LVH, stroke risk, etc:

Keeping the Genie in the Bottle: Growth Hormone and Cardiovascular Disease


Similarly:

Oh sweet summer child… I stopped reading the moment I saw "Dr. McDougall," the infamous chiropractor that pretends to be a real doctor on YouTube.

Poison is always in the dose. I could find research on how harmful drinking too much water is, even on PubMed.

None of your citations are credible, I’m afraid, and I think you’re mistaking the folks on this forum for the ones on Meso. I highly doubt any of us are blasting 10iu of GH for recreational use. I’m taking 1iu per day, which is really helping me sleep peacefully.

I think you also forgot to look into how harmful low levels of testosterone can be for both men and women, including increased all-cause mortality, bone loss, etc.

And you’re missing the essence of what I said. You told people to stop taking Reta, Tirz, and Cagri, and that is out of line. We will choose our own poison, and you, unfortunately, have no say in it.

I just posted about nootropics that help with mental clarity. It might be helpful for you, so I’ll link it here, my friend.

My Limitless Stack - Nootropics

I have to admit, I’m only mildly interested in GLP-1s, and I know this forum is primarily dedicated to them. To be fair, I was on Reta for six months and also briefly tried Cagri, but my main area of interest is performance enhancement, particularly nootropics. These are the compounds I’m...

glp1forum.com

 

[Crowreap]

I never said I was lean Doctor Crowreap. I asked a question on how to deal with it. You're pretty good at reading mine and know what I think. Now.

Alright, fair enough. My mistake, I just assumed since you said you lost 50 lbs, I assumed you were... somewhat lean, like something like a skinny fat physique that a lot of people seem to have, and then they're always asking questions, like, how do I lose the love handles? so to answer your question. Just get leaner while putting on muscle. That's all there is to it! 💪💪

 

[Thee Oohwee]

Some tesa protocols can also motivate intermittent fasting. In any case, tesa is one way to focus on body recomp, as is HCG for some men.

Some other options:

1) Move to Canada, apply for citizenship, and ask for "medical assistance in dying" (MAID). At some point, tell them you changed your mind. Between moving to another country and the near-death experience, you should lose a few pounds.

2) In theory, PT-141 can help with weight loss (one way or another, like with helping energy level -- not just libido). Some people say the same thing about SS-31 (energy boost and stopped the stall).

3) Elora or cagri (more practical than #1 or #2).

4) Just wait it out with reta.

 

[Mood]

Couple things, I'm older. Probably older than a bunch of you. Been retired for a couple of years and just don't do everything I used to, but I'm not a sit and watch TV all day guy.

A few people mentioned hgh or secretagogues but not sure anyone asked whether you've had a hormone panel run to see your Test, Estrogen, Thyroid, IGF-1, etc. levels? If not, never a bad idea to see where you are. If you were holding onto extra fat (and may still be), you could have lower than optimal hormone levels. Always good to get a baseline to determine if you want to look into optimization. If you have low test or high E, that could be making it harder to lose that extra fat. Same if your thyroid isn't functioning as it should.

You could be perfectly fine on everything, but it never hurts to look into the numbers and make sure.

 

[laansasa]

Facing the same problem. Targeting visceral fat will accomplish very little, especially when it comes to love handles. Your love handles are not being pushed outward by the fat under your ribs.

I've concluded that the best way to lose this subcutaneous belly fat and love handle fat is to just become really lean and build muscle so I don't end up looking scrawny. Being very lean has other health benefits. But there's a lot of work ahead in this approach.

I confess also that I find myself intrigued by products like Lemon Bottle and deoxycholic acid. I was initially creeped out by the notion of chemically killing fat cells, but I'm starting to rationalize it more and more and thinking it may be an option at some point.

Then there's this other thing called cryolipolisis, or "Cool Sculpting" which I find fascinating. Kills fat cells by freezing them at 40 degrees F while keeping water-based cells unharmed (since they freeze at 32F).

Not sure if there are options beyond this.

I would personally say DO NOT do Coolsculpting. I did it years ago and it was the worse thing ever. Zero belly fat loss, random insane sharp pains like being stabbed by a knife for a month - so bad I had to sit down. The worst part, other than losing $1,500, was that my skin got really stretched, making it look a LOT worse than before. I ended up getting liposuction and that did the trick. More expensive, but at least it works.

 

[Calm Logic]

Oh sweet summer child… I stopped reading the moment I saw "Dr. McDougall," the infamous chiropractor that pretends to be a real doctor on YouTube.

John McDougall, MD was a board-certified internist with lots of citations. Known as the "potato doctor," he became a medical doctor and researcher after having a stroke at the age of 18.

He thought the number one reason people turn to supplements (and GLPs) is because they are making themselves sick with GI-inflaming, cardiovascular-aging foods, which also have a high caloric density compared to starches:

Why We Don’t Focus on Protein - Dr. McDougall

Read the latest on serious health-related issues and what you can do about them. Hear success stories from people who were helped by the McDougall Program.

www.drmcdougall.com

We’re not sick from lack of protein. We’re sick from excess fat, oils, animal products and processed foods...What actually builds muscle is doing the work – consistent resistance training and adequate overall calorie intake to support your activity.

 

[FartfulCodger]

I would personally say DO NOT do Coolsculpting. I did it years ago and it was the worse thing ever. Zero belly fat loss, random insane sharp pains like being stabbed by a knife for a month - so bad I had to sit down. The worst part, other than losing $1,500, was that my skin got really stretched, making it look a LOT worse than before. I ended up getting liposuction and that did the trick. More expensive, but at least it works.

Thank you! I really appreciate hearing from someone with first-hand experience.