Is there any advantage to joining vendor discords and telegrams?

chmuse said:
For some reason I thought for the longest time the tirzhelp guy and Zippy were the same person. I think because I found this place from furiously googling everything in the deleted croc posts because I refused to join discord. (Look at me now, I have a pep only discord! Baby steps....)
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Well send me an invite!
 
zpped said:
Peppys and glp1f coexist for different reasons. Peppys isn't a secret but they have a rule about not posting invites in public forums. So we follow it. Peppys is also the path to get to a few more important locations.

qualigator is just one small group's temper tantrum. Honestly don't know what their current rule is on talking about it because it's changed a few times. It's a fine place but it's not like there is a bunch of knowledge there that isn't already everywhere else.

tirzhelp is actively promoted here and we encourage people to check it out. It's still brand new and has great guides for very basic information. But anything beyond that it's literally the blind leading the blind. And SM has a hair about mentioning glp1f there for his own personal grudge.

pepchat is for vendor cults to talk directly to their worshippers.

None of these places are very secret or hard to find. There are actually secret places though.
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Well damn! Coming from Reddit, I perceived this forum, Peppys, and Meso as the “secret” places. Glad to know there is time and space to venture further. 🙏
 
Sunflower said:
Well damn! Coming from Reddit, I perceived this forum, Peppys, and Meso as the “secret” places. Glad to know there is time and space to venture further. 🙏
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You can find all of those places on Google. It's not much of a secret.
 
geoguy78 said:
It's literally impossible to use unless you are on your phone constantly. I open telegram and look at i and there's like 700 messages since I last looked. There gets to be a point on telegram and discord where it gets too big, and that specific telegram is just too big and too filled with crap.
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And it’s basically just the Mods talking to each other and the same handful of other people.
 
zpped said:
You can find all of those places on Google. It's not much of a secret.
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It is to the poor souls on MindPump YouTube videos. I tried to be helpful and covert by replying to a comment suggesting they multi-browser search things like peptides, forums, and GLP, and was promptly deleted or shadow banned.
 
Sunflower said:
Well damn! Coming from Reddit, I perceived this forum, Peppys, and Meso as the “secret” places. Glad to know there is time and space to venture further. 🙏
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Here I view qa as my 'secret' spot because you need an account to see anything. Oh, you found out my secrets, boss man? Well YOU WERE THERE TOO.

Like if someone finds an account on only fans. If you're going to accuse someone of being there, you have to admit you were looking.
 
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zpped said:
Or make a few posts and read some stuff.... But guess that is too high of a bar for some people.
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Right? I got Peppy’s full access but I can’t get full access here. I’ll be a newbie forever here. I just want full access to documents 😭
 
Needsalife said:
Right? I got Peppy’s full access but I can’t get full access here. I’ll be a newbie forever here. I just want full access to documents 😭
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Sorry to break it to you but glp1f Shangri-La doesn’t exist… there is no such thing as full access here. You don’t even have to log in to see all the content.
 
JohnnyGobbs said:
Peppys full access you gotta take a polygraph, background check and submit fingerprints. It’s brutal.
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That was a few months back, I did all of the same and then they opened everything up to basically public like a week later lmfao
 
zpped said:
lol. No. That's not why.
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Yes, that is why some of y'all say that. The most recent dispute was over whether or not Coco banned someone for griping about not having immediate access. Controlling access to content and tone policing are very common grievances.
 
YoYoFat said:
There's stuff here that people don't have full access to? This forum?
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Yes. I won’t name names, but there’s a wonderful spread sheet that a member created—all the vendors, opinions, etc. It used to be accessible to all but when so many people joined he closed access to only people who are a certain level. It’s not on the normal places here, it’s attached to his profile. His work, he gets to gatekeep it. But I was here when everyone could view it and it was very helpful. Now I can’t see it. 😩
 
Needsalife said:
Yes. I won’t name names, but there’s a wonderful spread sheet that a member created—all the vendors, opinions, etc. It used to be accessible to all but when so many people joined he closed access to only people who are a certain level. It’s not on the normal places here, it’s attached to his profile. His work, he gets to gatekeep it. But I was here when everyone could view it and it was very helpful. Now I can’t see it. 😩
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You're talking about "the spreadsheet" and its not here. The person who made it (from other people's opinions) took it down and started another forum.
 
Needsalife said:
Yes. I won’t name names, but there’s a wonderful spread sheet that a member created—all the vendors, opinions, etc. It used to be accessible to all but when so many people joined he closed access to only people who are a certain level. It’s not on the normal places here, it’s attached to his profile. His work, he gets to gatekeep it. But I was here when everyone could view it and it was very helpful. Now I can’t see it. 😩
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That's now the alligator forum.
 
Needsalife said:
Yes. I won’t name names, but there’s a wonderful spread sheet that a member created—all the vendors, opinions, etc. It used to be accessible to all but when so many people joined he closed access to only people who are a certain level. It’s not on the normal places here, it’s attached to his profile. His work, he gets to gatekeep it. But I was here when everyone could view it and it was very helpful. Now I can’t see it. 😩
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He bailed and started his own forum.
 
Needsalife said:
Yep
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You said “I can’t get full access here. I’ll be a newbie forever here. I just want full access to documents.” That’s incorrect — you have complete access to every single aspect of this forum. A random user’s google doc is not part of the functionality of the forum and not influenced by forum policy in any way. It’s frankly troubling that people were under the impression that an individual user’s opinions about vendors were somehow officially related to this forum.

If you want access to it, get in touch with the user who manages it, that’s between y’all. As far as glp1forum is concerned you are a full and unencumbered member.
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
You said “I can’t get full access here. I’ll be a newbie forever here. I just want full access to documents.” That’s incorrect — you have complete access to every single aspect of this forum. A random user’s google doc is not part of the functionality of the forum and not influenced by forum policy in any way. It’s frankly troubling that people were under the impression that an individual user’s opinions about vendors were somehow officially related to this forum.

If you want access to it, get in touch with the user who manages it, that’s between y’all. As far as glp1forum is concerned you are a full and unencumbered member.
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I think people are better off reading here to find vendor reviews and user experiences with various vendors. The Vendor Connection sub forum is a great starting point to find vendors, then search to find user feedback, and join your target vendor's discord/telegram and read more user feedback, testing policies, 3rd party tests etc.

The problem with a spreadsheet cheatsheet is it is impossible to keep updated with the latest vendor developments and can be incredibly biased by the person updating the sheet. With every new pep batch there are potential changes and drama from vendor to vendor. Case in point GYC - three weeks ago a solid vendor, today, much riskier.
 
GimmeABreak said:
I think people are better off reading here to find vendor reviews and user experiences with various vendors. The Vendor Connection sub forum is a great starting point to find vendors, then search to find user feedback, and join your target vendor's discord/telegram and read more user feedback, testing policies, 3rd party tests etc.

The problem with a spreadsheet cheatsheet is it is impossible to keep updated with the latest vendor developments and can be incredibly biased by the person updating the sheet. With every new pep batch there are potential changes and drama from vendor to vendor. Case in point GYC - three weeks ago a solid vendor, today, much riskier.
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I looked at the spreadsheet in reference about a week ago and I found a lot of it out of date, incomplete or inaccurate. That spreadsheet was one of my first intros to peps, but I think that relying on others to aggregate vendor data and opinions for you is a recipe for trouble. I guess people want to be spoonfed, whether it's the spreadsheet or the "investigation" happening right now over the case of the missing peptides. Like you are saying, way better to just look at vendor sections here and other places, take your time to do a little research, and just be cautious.
 
geoguy78 said:
I looked at the spreadsheet in reference about a week ago and I found a lot of it out of date, incomplete or inaccurate. That spreadsheet was one of my first intros to peps, but I think that relying on others to aggregate vendor data and opinions for you is a recipe for trouble. I guess people want to be spoonfed, whether it's the spreadsheet or the "investigation" happening right now over the case of the missing peptides. Like you are saying, way better to just look at vendor sections here and other places, take your time to do a little research, and just be cautious.
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The spreadsheet is no longer in use. I actually thought the link had been deactivated.
 
chmuse said:
The spreadsheet is no longer in use. I actually thought the link had been deactivated.
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You're right lol. I just hopped on over to the other forum and checked, that section has been locked down and the link is gone. Maybe it was more than a week ago I last looked? My memory is going already...
 
geoguy78 said:
You're right lol. I just hopped on over to the other forum and checked, that section has been locked down and the link is gone. Maybe it was more than a week ago I last looked? My memory is going already...
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I haven't seen the spreadsheet in AGES. But maybe I just haven't looked for it.

He has the CN vendors locked behind a couple posts, but you could easily get there in fifteen minutes of posting replies in a few threads.
 
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