Airport Security Peptide

[Approach]

I am aware that TSA permits you to carry medical-related items through security -- so long as you say it's "medication". As an alternative, do you think the following scenario would cause a problem?

Purchase your peptide from Skye Research Peptides, for example. If TSA pulls you aside, you remove the vial from the Skye Peptide packaging and show them the Purchase Receipt. Basically, I'm asking: Does TSA permit you to have Research Peptides?

 

[Calm Logic]

I think someone did that. But why not go with the flow? Why ask for scrutiny? You don't want them to have to do any active thinking, just autopilot. "These aren't the droids you're looking for."

 

[ZippityDooDah]

I am away that TSA permits you to carry medical-related items through security -- so long as you say it's "medication". As an alternative, do you think the following scenario would cause a problem? Purchase your peptide from Skye Research Peptides, for example. If TSA pulls you aside, you tell them the vial is for "Research." You remove the vial from the small Skye Peptide packaging. (The packaging says Skye Peptide on it.) Then, attached to the packaging is the receipt you used to purchase it. Basically, I'm asking: Does TSA permit you to have Research Peptides? (I'm asking b/c technically, it would not be considered "medication."

You realize the whole "research peptide" or "research chemical" concept is a legally ambiguous farce, right?

Let's assume for a moment that there's the slightest chance that you could reasonably claim that you were a legitimately qualified and credentialed research scientist and that the product in the vial was a legitimate research chemical... How to you think TSA is going to respond to "I'd like to bring this CHEMICAL into the sterile area of the airport and then on to a passenger aircraft"?

Unless you have a $1000+/hour lawyer on retainer willing to defend that claim in court, you're in for a bad time. Even then, there are reasons most cases involving these "research" substances aren't litigated.

I don't know why people try to make simple things complicated. It's insulin. Let them prove otherwise. Rip the silly label off and just play your role in security theater. Or, just leave the stuff at home and take a break during your travels.

 

[Approach]

I think someone did that. But why not go with the flow? Why ask for scrutiny? You don't want them to have to do any active thinking, just autopilot. "These aren't the droids you're looking for."

Could you pls explain further. Are you suggesting it's ok to throw the peptide vials into your handbag with the rest of your medications even w/o a label?

 

[Divide By Zero]

If you're this risk averse, I wouldn't take it. From a practical standpoint, however, TSA does not care.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

If you're this risk averse, I wouldn't take it. From a practical standpoint, however, TSA does not care.

🎯

 

[Approach]

You realize the whole "research peptide" or "research chemical" concept is a legally ambiguous farce, right?

Let's assume for a moment that there's the slightest chance that you could reasonably claim that you were a legitimately qualified and credentialed research scientist and that the product in the vial was a legitimate research chemical... How to you think TSA is going to respond to "I'd like to bring this CHEMICAL into the sterile area of the airport and then on to a passenger aircraft"?

Unless you have a $1000+/hour lawyer on retainer willing to defend that claim in court, you're in for a bad time. Even then, there are reasons most cases involving these "research" substances aren't litigated.

I don't know why people try to make simple things complicated. It's insulin. Let them prove otherwise. Rip the silly label off and just play your role in security theater. Or, just leave the stuff at home and take a break during your travels.

Thanks for your feedback. It helps.

Usually I just fedex the vials to my destination the day before departure. That's not feasible for international trips though. I mean the following constructively:

>>>You realize the whole "research peptide" or "research chemical" concept is a legally ambiguous....
Agree. Absolutely, this is precisely why I'm asking. I'd rather look silly to this group than in front of TSA agents.

>>>I don't know why people try to make simple things complicated. It's insulin. Let them prove otherwise.
Good idea. Although you think I'm complicating it, 1) Isn't it equally suspicious to travel through security with a vial with no label on it? 2) I'm also asking b/c: Although I can get a perfect RX insulin label to attach to it-- Wouldn't I get in even more trouble by transporting vials they determine to have fake "Rx" labels on it? 3) If I tell them it's Insulin but they disagree, could that create a "legal" issue now?

Basically:
What is worst case scenario? Would they just dispose of the products and I go on to catch my plane? No big deal? Or, are there potential "legal" consequences (from above). Another reason I'm asking now is b/c I don't want to miss my plane.

>>>Or, just leave the stuff at home and take a break during your travels.
Absolutely, of course. That's the sure bet way. I see your point, but I prefer to bring them with me due to an extended business trips.

Thank you.

 

[GLP1Pharmacist]

I kept old bag of compounded product labeled from pharmacy with all of the legally required info. Put my "new" vials in that bag and had no issues. I did put in checked suitcase.

 

[Calm Logic]

For those without authentic labels, my favorite idea reiterated before is to put it in a reusable pen.

 

[TooBigtoFail]

You have the wrong state of mind. You are already making yourself guilty, and they can spot that. I recon 1 vial and put it with my checked bag, with my personal items, along my perfume bottles and other liquids (eye drops, etc). I put syringes, alcohol, etc in a separate small wrap in the same checked bag ( I suggest 0.3/0.5cc syringes). Try to not make yourself look like a drug addict. And the whole story about 'research' does not stand a chance (IMO).

If they analyze the vial, it is not a 'controlled' substance. They can keep it, and I possibly will pay a fine. Worst case, I will be denied entry (and may have difficulty re-entering the next time). If you import a lot, its contraband and a crime. No powder in a vial, please.

Read the EU customs law, and for each other country. If you want to debate with a TSA or custom officer this is legitimate medicine, you need to make that statement up front. You need a prescription, written in the language of that country, with the evidence they want. Anything else, and you are begging to spend time in secondary inspection, lowering your odds and digging yourself a grave.

You need to be a cool cat, that can stare at an officer in the eyes, and say 'nothing to declare' because there is nothing to declare. Body temperature, eye pupil/movement, sweat, etc will give you up easily. The vials do not need to be refrigerated during transit. If you try to hide this too much, that means you know you are doing something wrong, and you are making yourself guilty.

By the way, its the lithium batteries that will betray you. They are paranoid about those now. None in checked bags, and keep them together with you. The scanners are so good, they can spot small, quarter size lithium batteries.

 

[Approach]

If you're this risk averse, I wouldn't take it. From a practical standpoint, however, TSA does not care.

Thank you. That helps. I kinda figured that. I just wanted to play devils advocate. Cool.

 

[Approach]

For those without authentic labels, my favorite idea reiterated before is to put it in a reusable pen.

Hey thanks. I missed that. Great idea!

 

[Meat_Peterson]

Why not just ship it priority to your destination. Hold for pickup at a local UPS or fedex location.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Thanks for your feedback. It helps.

Usually I just fedex the vials to my destination the day before departure. That's not feasible for international trips though. I mean the following constructively:

>>>You realize the whole "research peptide" or "research chemical" concept is a legally ambiguous....
Agree. Absolutely, this is precisely why I'm asking. I'd rather look silly to this group than in front of TSA agents.

>>>I don't know why people try to make simple things complicated. It's insulin. Let them prove otherwise.
Good idea, but it's also my main concern. Although you think I'm complicating it, I see it differently. Ie, 1) Isn't it equally suspicious to travel through security with a vial with no label on it? 2) I'm also asking b/c: Although I can get a perfect RX insulin label to attach to it-- Wouldn't I get in even more trouble by transporting vials they determine to have fake "Rx" labels on it? 3) If I tell them it's Insulin but they miraculously prove otherwise based on it not be refrigerated, the fake label / no label -- Could that create a "legal" issue now?

Basically:
What is worst case scenario? Would they just dispose of the products and I go on to catch my plane? No big deal? Or, are there potential "legal" consequences (from above). Another reason I'm asking now is from a practical standpoint: A little more knowledge on this topic now-- might save me from missing my plane.

>>>Or, just leave the stuff at home and take a break during your travels.
Absolutely, of course. That's the sure bet way. I see your point, but I prefer to bring them with me due to an extended business trips.

Thank you.

As @TooBigtoFail alluded to, you're way over-thinking this. "What if'ing" yourself into a million different scenarios is not going to do anything but make you nervous and suspicious-looking.

If everything is inside a proper insulin cooler case, they're 99% unlikely to even ask about it, never mind open it up and start interrogating you about the labeling or lack thereof. Even if they do open it up they probably have no idea what they're looking at, and presuming you don't look like a strung-out heroin addict they're unlikely to ask more than "what's this" (if they even ask; a lot of people travel with insulin), to which the shortest, simplest reply is always the best answer "my insulin". Having some grand explanation rehearsed and at the ready is not going to make things go smoother, in fact it's more likely to cause problems.

Obviously I don't know you so this is entirely a hunch on my part, but based on your original question and responses I get the impression that you're already the nervous type, and putting yourself through these mental gymnastics is not likely to make the situation any better once you're standing in line. It's far better and easier IMHO to just live without the stuff for a week or two or however long you'll be away and deal with the getting back on-track after your trip.

 

[Approach]

As @TooBigtoFail alluded to, you're way over-thinking this. "What if'ing" yourself into a million different scenarios is not going to do anything but make you nervous and suspicious-looking.

If everything is inside a proper insulin cooler case, they're 99% unlikely to even ask about it, never mind open it up and start interrogating you about the labeling or lack thereof. Even if they do open it up they probably have no idea what they're looking at, and presuming you don't look like a strung-out heroin addict they're unlikely to ask more than "what's this" (if they even ask; a lot of people travel with insulin), to which the shortest, simplest reply is always the best answer "my insulin". Having some grand explanation rehearsed and at the ready is not going to make things go smoother, in fact it's more likely to cause problems.

Obviously I don't know you so this is entirely a hunch on my part, but based on your original question and responses I get the impression that you're already the nervous type, and putting yourself through these mental gymnastics is not likely to make the situation any better once you're standing in line. It's far better and easier IMHO to just live without the stuff for a week or two or however long you'll be away and deal with the getting back on-track after your trip.

>>>If everything is inside a proper insulin cooler case, they're 99% unlikely to even ask about it, never mind open it up and start interrogating you about the labeling or lack thereof.

Hey thanks. I've done this before and had no problems. I've also Fed-Ex'd vials prior to flying and that worked well too. Your response was helpful b/c: it confirms that I'm already taking the right steps. Cool. Thanks again.