Easing in. Ordered from Cain / Nexaph

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I was getting the real deal Wegovy. Had some dose shortages so I turned to Arctic. Prices seemed OK compared to compounded and full price Rx costs.
Then switched to Triggered. Insurance stopped paying for the pharmacy stuff so I had to go 100% Triggered. Got one last order in and Triggered got busted.
Found Nexaph and this place. Nexaph prices seemed too good to be true compared to Triggered. But China prices seemed too good to be too good to be true compared to Nexaph.

I’m dipping my toe in. I have a small order in with Nexaph. Should last a few months. That will tide me over while my first Chine order comes in.

My vendor getting busted was scary but now looks like the best thing that happened to me.

Thanks to all for all the vendor info you’ve all shared. I have a lot to read up on. I hopefully will pick a Chinese vendor and order with them by next payday - two weeks from now.
 
I was getting the real deal Wegovy. Had some dose shortages so I turned to Arctic. Prices seemed OK compared to compounded and full price Rx costs.
Then switched to Triggered. Insurance stopped paying for the pharmacy stuff so I had to go 100% Triggered. Got one last order in and Triggered got busted.
Found Nexaph and this place. Nexaph prices seemed too good to be true compared to Triggered. But China prices seemed too good to be too good to be true compared to Nexaph.

I’m dipping my toe in. I have a small order in with Nexaph. Should last a few months. That will tide me over while my first Chine order comes in.

My vendor getting busted was scary but now looks like the best thing that happened to me.

Thanks to all for all the vendor info you’ve all shared. I have a lot to read up on. I hopefully will pick a Chinese vendor and order with them by next payday - two weeks from now.
My first order was with Cain as well. I did a pre order so the price was cheaper but not as cheap as China. Being that I only wanted to order one kit to start, the difference was only like $50 so well worth it to me to use PayPal /Ships from the USA so I had my product fast. One thing I can say is his pucks are gorgeous!!! Just beautiful compare to some others and they tested just as perfect as they looked. Even my ugly pucks from another vendor tested very well, just not pretty to look at.
 
My first order was with Cain as well. I did a pre order so the price was cheaper but not as cheap as China. Being that I only wanted to order one kit to start, the difference was only like $50 so well worth it to me to use PayPal /Ships from the USA so I had my product fast.

I came from compounded RX out of pocket so while I was aware of the complaints about his price being out of whack, it was so much cheaper than what I was paying it didn’t really bother me. For me it was more of a comfort that if there were any issues with one of his batches I’d for sure hear about it.

I’ll try PGB next time. I think I’ll always stay domestic as I’m worried a seizure could cause problems with Global Entry.
 
You can still order from China vendors for domestic delivery by their US "warehouses."

As @exploitedworkerbee once said: Nexaph is a group buy posing as a vendor. And PGB is a vendor posing as a group buy.

In other words, PGB is ridiculously overpriced too (unless you want survodutide). While China has been regualrly lowering prices, Nexaph and PGB continue to live in their own bubbles.

With PGB, $400 for their R24 is more than twice what I would expect to pay for reta. You might as well order your own testing at that rate. Their T60 for $385 is 64 cents per mg, which is basically reta pricing, or about 30 cents more than a good price for tirz.
 
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You can still order from China vendors for domestic delivery by their US "warehouses."

As @exploitedworkerbee once said: Nexaph is a group buy posing as a vendor. And PGB is a vendor posing as a group buy.

In other words, PGB is ridiculously overpriced too (unless you want survodutide). While China has been regualrly lowering prices, Nexaph and PGB continue to live in their own bubbles.

With PGB, $400 for their R24 is more than twice what I would expect to pay for reta. You might as well order your own testing at that rate. Their T60 for $385 is 64 cents per mg, which is basically reta pricing, or about 30 cents more than a good price for tirz.
Thanks for your response.

I hear you and I know you’re right. I know I can get a better deal. But my first and second purchases were from Fifty410 at $11.65 per mg and $6.50 per mg. My T15 from Nexa was $1.23 per mg which is an 82% discount from my last compounded. Even if T15 were $0.64 (I’m not doing T60 yet), that’s a 92% discount from what i paid last. That’s great, but BOTH prices feel so much cheaper that feeling a little bit more comfortable with one was the deciding factor for me on my first grey purchase.

As I become more comfortable in this space I’m sure that will change.

I will say that neither Nexa or PGB has TB500 or a glow/klow blend that includes TB500 so I may venture out more quickly than I thought.
 
I started with Trym $600 for 3 months, then it was Nexaph next was WBS now SSA.
I feel ya! I was doing $299 per month on compounded and that was a total rip off! While I’m not one that believes cheaper is better, I do like a fair price. I just dont want to spend too much time finding it and ended up paying way too much. I like this route much better.
 
As @exploitedworkerbee once said: Nexaph is a group buy posing as a vendor.
This is just not true. 1000000% false. I don’t know why you and Brute Enforcer Emeritus have such a hard on and incessant need to slam Cain, but it’s just not true. Does he cost more than direct from CN? Yes. Is he operating a group buy, which is a resale of another vendor’s product? No. It’s his own, the company’s own. Nexaph literally buy raws and lyophilizes themselves. Just like Amo.
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
it's been interesting watching the transformation from chinese kit reseller with decent pricing that pre-tested every kit (remember how excited people were about that QR code?), to group buy facilitator ("presales") with high pricing for untested kits, to single vial domestic vendor with insane pricing that'll now ban folks for nothing at all. As soon as their credit card processing ability goes away, which im sure it will one of these days, there will be nothing at all to differentiate them besides the smoke they blow up everyone's asses. that's probably why you caught a ban -- controlling the narrative.

The most newbie oriented group around, Stairway To Gray, auto deletes any comment mentioning Cain.

 
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Thanks for your response.

I hear you and I know you’re right. I know I can get a better deal. But my first and second purchases were from Fifty410 at $11.65 per mg and $6.50 per mg. My T15 from Nexa was $1.23 per mg which is an 82% discount from my last compounded. Even if T15 were $0.64 (I’m not doing T60 yet), that’s a 92% discount from what i paid last. That’s great, but BOTH prices feel so much cheaper that feeling a little bit more comfortable with one was the deciding factor for me on my first grey purchase.

As I become more comfortable in this space I’m sure that will change.

I will say that neither Nexa or PGB has TB500 or a glow/klow blend that includes TB500 so I may venture out more quickly than I thought.
This is something I'm working on now, trying to get a handle on pricing. I'm going through the two most recent pages of the vendor forum, trying to put a spreadsheet together. I'm hoping to land on a few that have good prices, a US warehouse, low free shipping minimums and something other than Crypto for payment. I suppose I could use crypto, but if I can do something easier I'd rather do that.
 
This is something I'm working on now, trying to get a handle on pricing. I'm going through the two most recent pages of the vendor forum, trying to put a spreadsheet together. I'm hoping to land on a few that have good prices, a US warehouse, low free shipping minimums and something other than Crypto for payment. I suppose I could use crypto, but if I can do something easier I'd rather do that.
Please share, I love the non-crypto focus too.
 
Please share, I love the non-crypto focus too.
It's in progress, but I can post it somewhere when I'm done. It's not incredibly detailed - I have a column per vendor. Then a row for US Warehouse y/n, Triz offered, Sema Offered, Reta Offered. Those are either 'No' or the lowest price per MG for one kit. Then there's a row for BAC advertised y/n, and finally crypto only y/n.

I'm just filling it in bit by bit as I get a few minutes here and there. Might take me a couple of days to wrap up.
 
Thanks for your response.

I hear you and I know you’re right. I know I can get a better deal. But my first and second purchases were from Fifty410 at $11.65 per mg and $6.50 per mg. My T15 from Nexa was $1.23 per mg which is an 82% discount from my last compounded. Even if T15 were $0.64 (I’m not doing T60 yet), that’s a 92% discount from what i paid last. That’s great, but BOTH prices feel so much cheaper that feeling a little bit more comfortable with one was the deciding factor for me on my first grey purchase.

As I become more comfortable in this space I’m sure that will change.

I will say that neither Nexa or PGB has TB500 or a glow/klow blend that includes TB500 so I may venture out more quickly than I thought.
I def understand this. In 2 years time if I added up the total amount I’ve spent on compound, I’d be ashamed honestly. I’m so grateful to the person who showed me the grey way. And like you I found comfort In Nexaph bc of testing and being domestic. The whole customs thing still is a little worrisome for me but I pulled the plug a few days ago and ordered from WBS and it was very smooth ( so far). And the price difference was massive. So if this works out, I owe it all to this group and my will to do my own research. So far I couldn’t be more thankful.
 
If prices from China had increased over the last year we'd be having a different conversation about PGB. They are in the same position many of us find ourselves in when evaluating our inventory. Can I sell that shizz in my freezer today for what I paid for it last fall? NO. None of it regardless of peptide.
Prices continue to come down.

PGB's offerings factor acquisition price plus testing and the time involved. Historically pricing has decreased so by the time their GLPs are available it's not competitive to people who don't care about testing or rely on vendor testing. Anyone uninsured paying OOP pharmacy/spa/telehealth PGB and Nexha are great choices. Honestly if someone asks me where to get product I wouldn't hesitate to recommend either.

I don't buy my GLPs from PGB (not a shill) but I totally get why people do.
 
But, of course, PGB is not testing the actual kit one is getting, nor is any other vendor. If money is there for the burning, get some cheap reta and test it yourself.
 

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