AHK-cu

[Rohpic]

I hope the irony isn't lost on you, that you're grandstanding on a forum that thrives on open discussion while dismissing valid critiques of the medical industry. Many potentially beneficial treatments, like Ivermectin, garlic, BPC-157, and other naturally occurring substances, often lack funding not because they're ineffective, but because they can't be patented. Unfortunately, in many cases, Western medicine tends to prioritize profit over prevention or affordable therapeutics, overlooking options that don’t serve commercial interests.
There is nothing irresponsible about sharing information on easy and affordable measures against cancer. No one said it’s a cure all to cancer.

 

[RocketGotRobbed]

I could see that happening if you were using large amounts, but a half a cc in 3 mls isn’t going to affect you systemically. If it did, lidocaine patches wouldn’t be OTC.

Yeah, it takes large amounts. Very sizeable actually.

how did you use it?

how did you use it?

I pull .1mL into the syringe after II pull the pep then inject immediately. But we have a longevity clinic here that reconstitutes their NAD with BAC and lidocaine. If the lidocaine has noo preservatives, and mine does not, it doesn't bother anything.

 

[hexagonal]

I hope the irony isn't lost on you, that you're grandstanding on a forum that thrives on open discussion while dismissing valid critiques of the medical industry. Many potentially beneficial treatments, like Ivermectin, garlic, BPC-157, and other naturally occurring substances, often lack funding not because they're ineffective, but because they can't be patented. Unfortunately, in many cases, Western medicine tends to prioritize profit over prevention or affordable therapeutics, overlooking options that don’t serve commercial interests.
There is nothing irresponsible about sharing information on easy and affordable measures against cancer. No one said it’s a cure all to cancer.

Ivermectin's medical usage is extremely well studied. It's an excellent anti-parasitic and is widely available for the use cases that science supports it for. It is a product of the pharma industry - we would not have it without Merck.

But this isn't a defense of big pharma - it is pointing out that regardless of whatever the reason is, we do not have any body of research showing what, if any, level of efficacy capsaicin has in preventing cancer in humans. That is undeniable fact.

And that means that yes, in response to someone sharing concerns around the tumor growth-promoting aspects of compounds that increas VEGF, it is irresponsible to say "well if you're concerned about that you should eat peppers."

Adding capsaicin to your diet might be a reasonable thing to do in general. I certainly get plenty of it. Hopefully it does help prevent cancer. But it should not be a recommendation as some sort of counterbalance against specific concerns. If someone who would otherwise not take AHK-Cu because they have these concerns is convinced to take it because they believe that capsaicin is going to mitigate their concerns, we're potentially materially impacting someone's life based off of inconclusive information.

Yes, this forum thrives on open discussion. That means informing people. You've informed them of some interesting research. I've cautioned that this research is inconclusive and that I believe your promotion of it is misleading.

 

[Rohpic]

it is irresponsible to say "well if you're concerned about that you should eat peppers."

I need to point out that you're attributing quotes to me that I never said. You're paraphrasing my words in a way that misrepresents my position and frames your grandstanding as justifiable.

It’s also clear at this point that you’re deeply invested in this debate and determined to be right. So, go ahead, have the final word if that matters to you. If your stance is that Western medicine is the only valid approach, then I’ll leave you to it. You're clearly confident in your position.

 

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I need to point out that you're attributing quotes to me that I never said. You're paraphrasing my words in a way that misrepresents my position and frames your grandstanding as justifiable.

It’s also clear at this point that you’re deeply invested in this debate and determined to be right. So, go ahead, have the final word if that matters to you. If your stance is that Western medicine is the only valid approach, then I’ll leave you to it. You're clearly confident in your position.

I explicitly stated I am hesitant about adding more VEGF increasing compounds in my stack because of tumor growth concerns.

You replied with this:

If you are worried about cancer, I suggest reading about that man’s journey to being cancer free. It’s pretty humbling what some foods can do when added to your diet.

You are being quite explicit that there is a "humbling" effect from adding capsaicin to your diet when it comes to cancer. You are directly replying to a specific concern with the suggestion that capsaicin resolves that concern.

I can also just make unilateral statements about your position, same as you did to me: It's clear at this point you are determined to escape responsibility for what your stance obviously was. You're now applying the common tactic of claiming you don't actually care that much, and making a post that tries to trap the other person into either giving you the last word after making specific attacks about their point, or proving you right by replying to "get the last word."