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Upset husband wants me to quit

Dr Seeds' clinic (Redox Medical Group) has a "Weight Loss" page with a section on "Dispelling the Myths". There's 7 or 8 references at the bottom of that page that may be of interest if you're trying to determine benefit vs risk.

Yes, great find/reminder:


I like Dr. Seeds a lot since he is all about the cellular level, which is an interesting perspective and relatively rare on YouTube (which has videos of him being interviewed).

I don't have kidney disease, but my doctor just told me recently that the primary treatment of CKD going forward will be oral GLPs like orforglipron. The current oral drugs for CKD like Farxiga will be seen as less effective. Of course, Farxiga and Jardiance are already seen as less effective for T2D compared to sema and tirz.
 
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If I ever land in the hospital for GI paralysis, I would mostly be upset that I wasn't sharing the room with @Super Trips, who thinks most of us are wimps when it comes to GLP use.

Similarly:

It's not the most popular opinion(especially here), but RESULTS are the goal, harm reduction is and always will be priority 2.

No matter what anyone here or anywhere says, If you're injecting experimental peptides, not even considering they come from the chinese gray market of all fkn places, you're willing to at least risk a LITTLE harm if it will get you the RESULTS you want.


did you recently post on meso?

Yes. I do wish India would use MCT oil instead of potentially inflammatory oils for AAS, so I do buy domestic mostly.
 
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My husband isn't trying to control what I do at all and he would never do that. He's very very sweet. The whole point of this post was to just provide good information to him so he feels less freaked out. I thought maybe yall would have the best resources. It seems like Andy might have some unresolved trauma and maybe my post triggered him lol. Sorry Andy!
Thanks for the update. Sorry that it seem so many people are reading into your OP a bit too much. Entertaining thread in any case.
 
Yes, that IS control .. HE doesn't want her to change anything .. who is that serving? Again .. we are not here just to please a man.
Ok, just to clarify, I'm NOT A GUY, I'm a woman, but I really think you're off and running on this woman's post.
She said her husband is a good guy and CARES ABOUT HER, who are you to label a person you don't know as controlling? And you've created your own narrative that he "doesn't want her to change anything"
Do you find this to be respectful the the WOMAN who originally posted?
You don't speak for the female collective, just saying.
 
My husband isn't trying to control what I do at all and he would never do that. He's very very sweet. The whole point of this post was to just provide good information to him so he feels less freaked out. I thought maybe yall would have the best resources. It seems like Andy might have some unresolved trauma and maybe my post triggered him lol. Sorry Andy!
I think @AndyPanda was the only one speaking up for your husband's intentions, though.
 
You’re right. I was hoping I could find some info that says “Hey it’s not that bad or dangerous”. He saw how someone went blind while using other glps and I wanted to illustrate that those people are not eating/ being conscious of nourishing their bodies… and that is the source of the worst side effects. Not the peptide directly
Actually, the "people going blind" was regarding a study of Ozempic/sema users, who are predominently diabetic. The eye condition is one that is strictly found in diabetics and is a rare condition anyway. If a medicine is prescribed for diabetics, there is going to be a % that have lost vision to that condition, it is not the medication it's the particular population in the study.
 
My husband isn't trying to control what I do at all and he would never do that. He's very very sweet. The whole point of this post was to just provide good information to him so he feels less freaked out. I thought maybe yall would have the best resources. It seems like Andy might have some unresolved trauma and maybe my post triggered him lol. Sorry Andy!

So in the end, your well-intentioned post about a wonderful husband has resulted in a long thread of clichéd, ugly, hostile back-and-forth jibes between two major players, looking like a "battle of the sexes" from the stupid part of the1970s.

Pretty sure I'm gonna have my own unresolved trauma from witnessing it.
 
So in the end, your well-intentioned post about a wonderful husband has resulted in a long thread of clichéd, ugly, hostile back-and-forth jibes between two major players, looking like a "battle of the sexes" from the stupid part of the1970s.

Pretty sure I'm gonna have my own unresolved trauma from witnessing it.
if you get a group therapy session together, I'll join.
 
Ok, just to clarify, I'm NOT A GUY, I'm a woman, but I really think you're off and running on this woman's post.
She said her husband is a good guy and CARES ABOUT HER, who are you to label a person you don't know as controlling? And you've created your own narrative that he "doesn't want her to change anything"
Do you find this to be respectful the the WOMAN who originally posted?
You don't speak for the female collective, just saying.
If you follow the thread in its entirety we stopped talking about OP and her husband and moved into the realm of hypotheticals. The whole back and forth started with the statement that the OP should just do what her husband wants her to do. An opinion that wasn't even asked for. What OP wanted was information she could present to her husband to reassure him that she will be fine.

While I am not going to claim that I speak on behalf of OP and I didn't even in the beginning. I am personally offended by the attitude that woman are the property of their husband and they should just do what they are told. Especially by some little punk who isn't married and has no idea what it takes to spend a life with someone else.
 
Bro.. this ish is a diabolical mic drop! After reading through the rest of the thread I was crying laughing coming back to this post😂😂😂
It really isn't, though. It's a mean-spirited, degrading, shitty thing to say about a woman and I don't know if Meso is leaking or what, but this whole thing grosses me right out.
 
Ok, just to clarify, I'm NOT A GUY, I'm a woman, but I really think you're off and running on this woman's post.
She said her husband is a good guy and CARES ABOUT HER, who are you to label a person you don't know as controlling? And you've created your own narrative that he "doesn't want her to change anything"
Do you find this to be respectful the the WOMAN who originally posted?
You don't speak for the female collective, just saying.
As soon as other posts started talking about their imagined hypotheticals is stopped being about OP anyway. I never claimed to speak for the "female collective" whatever the hell that is supposed to be.
 
No, I’ve never been overweight 😬 I guess I basically microdose to stay lean.
OK here I can see why your husband has concerns.. Why would you experiment with grey market meds, if you have no health reasons to take that risk? That is a valid question.
There are 10,200 deaths per year
which are the direct result of an eating disorder in the U.S., which includes anorexia nervosa, bulimia nervosa, and other specified feeding or eating disorders.
 
If you follow the thread in its entirety we stopped talking about OP and her husband and moved into the realm of hypotheticals. The whole back and forth started with the statement that the OP should just do what her husband wants her to do. An opinion that wasn't even asked for. What OP wanted was information she could present to her husband to reassure him that she will be fine.

While I am not going to claim that I speak on behalf of OP and I didn't even in the beginning. I am personally offended by the attitude that woman are the property of their husband and they should just do what they are told. Especially by some little punk who isn't married and has no idea what it takes to spend a life with someone else.
"Yes, that IS control .. HE doesn't want her to change anything .. who is that serving? Again .. we are not here just to please a man"

This was your comment this morning. Not a hypothetical, you were speaking about the OP's spouse.
I did read the thread in its entirety. She was asking for practical help in informing him and her thread was hijacked.
 
It really isn't, though. It's a mean-spirited, degrading, shitty thing to say about a woman and I don't know if Meso is leaking or what, but this whole thing grosses me right out.
You use illegal drugs just like the rest of us. Don’t try to act noble because you don’t agree with something.
 
"Yes, that IS control .. HE doesn't want her to change anything .. who is that serving? Again .. we are not here just to please a man"

This was your comment this morning. Not a hypothetical, you were speaking about the OP's spouse.
I did read the thread in its entirety. She was asking for practical help in informing him and her thread was hijacked.
It was hijacked by Andy. MsGismo was just responding to his comment
 
You use illegal drugs just like the rest of us. Don’t try to act noble because you don’t agree with something.
I REALLY shouldn't do this and yet I feel compelled to point out that all of us doing illegal drugs at the same time in no way correlates with the ever-increasing (and somewhat amusing - and obviously intentionally incendiary and escalating) flaming of each other....

In other words: It is a logical fallacy that all groups of drug users always argue caustically over issues unrelated to the specific activity of their own drug use.

I recognize that I could be wrong. 🙂
 
I REALLY shouldn't do this and yet I feel compelled to point out that all of us doing illegal drugs at the same time in no way correlates with the ever-increasing (and somewhat amusing - and obviously intentionally incendiary and escalating) flaming of each other....

In other words: It is a logical fallacy that all groups of drug users always argue caustically over issues unrelated to the specific activity of their own drug use.

I recognize that I could be wrong. 🙂
I’m saying no one here has moral high ground.
 
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It really isn't, though. It's a mean-spirited, degrading, shitty thing to say about a woman and I don't know if Meso is leaking or what, but this whole thing grosses me right out.
Too each is own. I thought it was funny af. The point that bro even said it is hilarious. Is it the nicest? No. Comical nonetheless. If I wanted to see whining I’d go hang out with my kids..
 
As most others have said I believe you get to make your own decisions, yadda yadda yadda.

But --

No, I’ve never been overweight 😬 I guess I basically microdose to stay lean.

I think we need to know more about your specific goals before we can give you any good advice.

If you're at a healthy weight and it is easy for you to maintain there is no reason to be on something like reta ... Unless you are hoping to benefit from the other GLP-1 drug properties that some report, like lessening inflammation and addictive cravings.

If you're perfectly healthy and injecting black market Chinese clones of unapproved experimental drugs anyway, you are probably adding risk rather than reducing it.

(I don't know that there is any good evidence for benefits from "microdosing" these meds either.)
 
"Yes, that IS control .. HE doesn't want her to change anything .. who is that serving? Again .. we are not here just to please a man"

This was your comment this morning. Not a hypothetical, you were speaking about the OP's spouse.
I did read the thread in its entirety. She was asking for practical help in informing him and her thread was hijacked.
That was absolutely a hypothetical because it was a response to someone else's imagined reasoning.
 
OK here I can see why your husband has concerns.. Why would you experiment with grey market meds, if you have no health reasons to take that risk? That is a valid question.
There are 10,200 deaths per year which are the direct result of an eating disorder in the U.S., which includes anorexia nervosa, bulimia nervosa, and other specified feeding or eating disorders.
Your mention of anorexia does bring to mind the importance of electrolytes. Even living in a desert, I have never been even mildly dehydrated unless I was sick or a higher dose of tirz.
I think we need to know more about your specific goals before we can give you any good advice.

If you're at a healthy weight and it is easy for you to maintain there is no reason to be on something like reta ... Unless you are hoping to benefit from the other GLP-1 drug properties that some report, like lessening inflammation and addictive cravings.

If you're perfectly healthy and injecting black market Chinese clones of unapproved experimental drugs anyway, you are probably adding risk rather than reducing it.

(I don't know that there is any good evidence for benefits from "microdosing" these meds either.)
Of course, the ultimate excuse, valid or not, is anti-aging.
 
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OK here I can see why your husband has concerns.. Why would you experiment with grey market meds, if you have no health reasons to take that risk? That is a valid question.
There are 10,200 deaths per year which are the direct result of an eating disorder in the U.S., which includes anorexia nervosa, bulimia nervosa, and other specified feeding or eating disorders.
Now this is an absolutely valid point of discussion.

An obese person (like myself) is balancing the risks of taking an illicit GLP1 smuggled into their home country from China against the very real dangers of just being obese. Without being obese or diabetic it changes the story quite a bit. The potential of people with body dysmorphia and eating disorders is eventually going to be a bigger issue especially when the name brand drugs lose their patent protection and the prices drop.

On the other hand .. how different is a person at a healthy weight taking a micro dose from a formally obese person taking a low dose when they enter into maintenance? I'm not so sure there is a difference.
 
Now this is an absolutely valid point of discussion.

An obese person (like myself) is balancing the risks of taking an illicit GLP1 smuggled into their home country from China against the very real dangers of just being obese. Without being obese or diabetic it changes the story quite a bit. The potential of people with body dysmorphia and eating disorders is eventually going to be a bigger issue especially when the name brand drugs lose their patent protection and the prices drop.

On the other hand .. how different is a person at a healthy weight taking a micro dose from a formally obese person taking a low dose when they enter into maintenance? I'm not so sure there is a difference.
The difference is the tendency toward obesity, and the real health risk that entails. Maintaining health vs healthy person staying skinny. The staying skinny is where the eating disorder risk becomes real.
 
OK here I can see why your husband has concerns.. Why would you experiment with grey market meds, if you have no health reasons to take that risk? That is a valid question.
There are 10,200 deaths per year which are the direct result of an eating disorder in the U.S., which includes anorexia nervosa, bulimia nervosa, and other specified feeding or eating disorders.
The same reason why some people use sermorelin or like TRT. I use it as a tool to reach my body fat % goals... I hit macro goals, take vitamins, stay hydrated etc
 

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