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Inspired by a back-and-forth with @Nathanologist and his request to “explain it like I’m 5” I figured it wouldn’t be a bad idea to make a post regarding my personal process for filtering (will make another post regarding how I do endotoxin testing when I have time). All specs are based on my personal set-up. If you have different methods or suggestions feel free to add a comment.

Filtering:

First know the difference between hydrophobic and hydrophilic filters - you should use hydrophilic to filter liquids and hydrophobic to filter air. Obviously use the hydrophobic to equalize pressure in the vial, especially when air chasing the last few units from a vacuum sealed 10 mL vial - it’s annoying as all hell trying to pull the plunger with your pinky while holding the whole thing upside down, trying not to bend your needle or pull it through the stopper as it dulls the tip the more times you poke through the rubber. This gets easier with practice.

Filters don’t remove endotoxins but I always filter before testing just so there’s less of whatever isn’t peptides in the test. I use Gamma sterilized 33mm PES .22 µm - I’ll attach a pic.

(note: in case you run out of hydrophobic, a hydrophilic .22 µm filter will pass air when it’s dry)

For a 31g (needle gauge), the inner diameter is extremely small, around 0.1–0.12mm (100–120 µm). That means you need to match your syringe filter outlet (luer-lock) with this fine bore so the fluid can actually pass without clogging or backing up. I personally use 25g for filtering (draw up) and 31g for administering to my researchers. 😉

note: I regularly see people on here claim BAC “sterilizes” the solution and that is not wholly accurate. Alcohol will sanitize but it won’t sterilize, you need radiation or an autoclave and sealed glass knock box to ensure no viruses or spores contaminate your samples. Alcohol will leach into whatever you’re filtering unless properly flushed and that’s a whole extra step. Just use
pre-sterilized 0.22 µm syringe filter, low protein-binding membrane. PES or PVDF; cellulose acetate is also low-binding; avoid nylon for sensitive peptides due to higher binding, they’re inexpensive.

Simple steps:

-Attach 21–25g sterile needle to the sterile 10 mL luer-lock syringe

-Pierce the reconstituted peptide vial (stopper still dry), invert the vial, and withdraw the full volume slowly to minimize foaming

-Remove any obvious bubbles by tapping; do not push fluid back and forth through the needle (reduces shear/adsorption risk)

-Detach the needle from the syringe and attach the sterile 0.22 µm filter to the syringe (female luer on filter to syringe tip)

-Attach a fresh sterile 21–25g needle to the outlet of the filter (the filter’s male luer)

-Prime by gently pushing ~0.3–0.5 mL of the peptide solution through the filter to wet the membrane, discarding these first drops into waste

High IQ: use sterile ethanol to wet the filter thus saving the peptide that would otherwise go to waste

-Insert a sterile vent needle with 0.22 µm air filter into the empty sterile vial to let displaced air escape through a sterile barrier

-Scrub the receiving vial’s stopper again (quick pass, let dry ~10 s)

-Insert the outlet needle (on the filter) into the receiving vial. Keep the vial upright and the needle tip well inside the vial headspace/liquid

-Plunge slowly and steadily. A 13mm filter is sized for ≤10 mL; expect gentle resistance. If resistance spikes, pause for 10–15 s and resume

-Recover hold-up volume, when nearly done, keep the needle tip inside the vial and very gently push a small air bubble (≤0.3 mL) through to “chase” liquid out of the filter. Don’t blast air; slow and controlled avoids foaming/aerosol

-Withdraw the needle and remove the vent. You can vacuum seal it with a filter and about 10 mL air draw if you want but it’s fine due to the vent having a filter

Reminder: use PES/ PVDF/ CA for hydrophilic filters as nylon can bind to some peptides

Happy researching!
 

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I appreciate the written step by step. I just ordered my first filtering kit from Underground Supply. I’ve seen a couple videos so I think I’m ready to try it but the written instruction is handy.
Awesome, if you have any suggestions for simplifying or just want to write a review of your kit/process that would be helpful for those who find it intimidating. 🙂
 
Inspired by a back-and-forth with @Nathanologist and his request to “explain it like I’m 5” I figured it wouldn’t be a bad idea to make a post regarding my personal process for filtering (will make another post regarding how I do endotoxin testing when I have time). All specs are based on my personal set-up. If you have different methods or suggestions feel free to add a comment.

Filtering:

First know the difference between hydrophobic and hydrophilic filters - you should use hydrophilic to filter liquids and hydrophobic to filter air. Obviously use the hydrophobic to equalize pressure in the vial, especially when air chasing the last few units from a vacuum sealed 10 mL vial - it’s annoying as all hell trying to pull the plunger with your pinky while holding the whole thing upside down, trying not to bend your needle or pull it through the stopper as it dulls the tip the more times you poke through the rubber. This gets easier with practice.

Filters don’t remove endotoxins but I always filter before testing just so there’s less of whatever isn’t peptides in the test. I use Gamma sterilized 33mm PES .22 µm - I’ll attach a pic.

(note: in case you run out of hydrophobic, a hydrophilic .22 µm filter will pass air when it’s dry)

For a 31g (needle gauge), the inner diameter is extremely small, around 0.1–0.12mm (100–120 µm). That means you need to match your syringe filter outlet (luer-lock) with this fine bore so the fluid can actually pass without clogging or backing up. I personally use 25g for filtering (draw up) and 31g for administering to my researchers. 😉

note: I regularly see people on here claim BAC “sterilizes” the solution and that is not wholly accurate. Alcohol will sanitize but it won’t sterilize, you need radiation or an autoclave and sealed glass knock box to ensure no viruses or spores contaminate your samples. Alcohol will leach into whatever you’re filtering unless properly flushed and that’s a whole extra step. Just use
pre-sterilized 0.22 µm syringe filter, low protein-binding membrane. PES or PVDF; cellulose acetate is also low-binding; avoid nylon for sensitive peptides due to higher binding, they’re inexpensive.

Simple steps:

-Attach 21–25g sterile needle to the sterile 10 mL luer-lock syringe

-Pierce the reconstituted peptide vial (stopper still dry), invert the vial, and withdraw the full volume slowly to minimize foaming

-Remove any obvious bubbles by tapping; do not push fluid back and forth through the needle (reduces shear/adsorption risk)

-Detach the needle from the syringe and attach the sterile 0.22 µm filter to the syringe (female luer on filter to syringe tip)

-Attach a fresh sterile 21–25g needle to the outlet of the filter (the filter’s male luer)

-Prime by gently pushing ~0.3–0.5 mL of the peptide solution through the filter to wet the membrane, discarding these first drops into waste

High IQ: use sterile ethanol to wet the filter thus saving the peptide that would otherwise go to waste

-Insert a sterile vent needle with 0.22 µm air filter into the empty sterile vial to let displaced air escape through a sterile barrier

-Scrub the receiving vial’s stopper again (quick pass, let dry ~10 s)

-Insert the outlet needle (on the filter) into the receiving vial. Keep the vial upright and the needle tip well inside the vial headspace/liquid

-Plunge slowly and steadily. A 13mm filter is sized for ≤10 mL; expect gentle resistance. If resistance spikes, pause for 10–15 s and resume

-Recover hold-up volume, when nearly done, keep the needle tip inside the vial and very gently push a small air bubble (≤0.3 mL) through to “chase” liquid out of the filter. Don’t blast air; slow and controlled avoids foaming/aerosol

-Withdraw the needle and remove the vent. You can vacuum seal it with a filter and about 10 mL air draw if you want but it’s fine due to the vent having a filter

Reminder: use PES/ PVDF/ CA for hydrophilic filters as nylon can bind to some peptides

Happy researching!
You’re awesome for this and I like the separate section for high IQ people 😂 this made me realize I’m lazy as hell though and if there are any adverse effects I’m definitely more likely to get them because I cannot see myself doing all this 😂 Absolutely great you do though and I’m slightly jealous of how good quality your peptides must be once you’re done!
Do you work in a lab? How did you learn all this?
 
Thank you! Can you wet the filter with bac, when you are reconstituting the peptide? Does it need to be pushed into the filter or can it be dripped into the female side?
 
You’re awesome for this and I like the separate section for high IQ people 😂 this made me realize I’m lazy as hell though and if there are any adverse effects I’m definitely more likely to get them because I cannot see myself doing all this 😂 Absolutely great you do though and I’m slightly jealous of how good quality your peptides must be once you’re done!
Do you work in a lab? How did you learn all this?
I was supposed to be an orthopedic surgeon but switched directions to pursue robotics, later moving into pharmaceutical private equity which pulled from both my love of chemistry/biology and manufacturing technology. I’m not a pro at anything but I have a solid network of folks to run my ideas by. My goal is to learn more and share ideas that ensure safety and affordability to everyone.
 
What types of contaminants are potentially filtered out?
A .22 µm filter removes microorganisms and particulates like bacteria, yeasts, molds, spores, microfragments from glass/rubber, undiscovered peptide aggregates, dust, lint, precipitated salts and buffers, some mycoplasma, pretty much anything besides viruses and toxins. Using pyrogen-free supplies reduces the risk of endotoxin contamination but we can’t ensure grey market suppliers value the same standards as us. Better to be safe so you don’t end up in a silly documentary on the BBC. 😂
 
Where does the air bubble for chasing liquid out of filter come from? (Air bubbles removed previously via tapping)
I’ve always assumed it’s seeping from the plunger, especially those >10 unit pulls. For folks on larger doses, being impatient means faster pulls and risk of air. Or not keeping the needle below the surface of the liquid, maybe.

EDIT: re-read your question and realized I left out that step, my bad. I draw a .2-.3 mL of headspace into the syringe before pulling liquid. Obviously keeping it at the top near the plunger (needle pointed downward), since you’re pushing the peptide you’ll be creating pressure and won’t have to worry about additional air bubbles forming. Does that make sense?
 
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-Prime by gently pushing ~0.3–0.5 mL of the peptide solution through the filter to wet the membrane, discarding these first drops into waste
This is the first I've heard of this. Will you help me understand why that first bit needs to be discarded and not put in the new vial or cart? What's wrong with the first 0.3-0.5 through the filter?
 
This is the first I've heard of this. Will you help me understand why that first bit needs to be discarded and not put in the new vial or cart? What's wrong with the first 0.3-0.5 through the filter?
That’s exactly my question, hence the “high IQ” solution of pulling sterile air into the syringe so you’re able to keep the last of the peptide that would otherwise be discarded with the filter. Pre-wetting with ethanol helps as you’re saturating the medium, similar to how wetting your hair before swimming helps prevent excess chlorine from absorbing into the cuticle. Not a perfect solution but it helps.
 
That’s exactly my question, hence the “high IQ” solution of pulling sterile air into the syringe so you’re able to keep the last of the peptide that would otherwise be discarded with the filter. Pre-wetting with ethanol helps as you’re saturating the medium, similar to how wetting your hair before swimming helps prevent excess chlorine from absorbing into the cuticle. Not a perfect solution but it helps.
That's sort of what I'm questioning; I'm having a hard time understanding why it matters WHAT wets the filter in the beginning, or why you'd need to discard whatever wets the filter; I'd think that whatever you used to wet the filter with is perfectly good after it comes OUT of the filter, and that there's no need to discard it.

Flushing the filter after is the part that keeps you from throwing out peptide with the filter, ok, THAT I understand. But "discarding" the initial bit through the filter, as though it's somehow dirty or contaminated or anything other than "filtered peptide" sounds an awful lot like "we cut the ends off the roast because we had a roasting pan that wouldn't fit an entire roast."
 
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