Consideration: There is no "stopping" these meds.

[MsGizmo]

I played around with lowering dose. Not for me. Found myself once again after over a year randomly waking up in the middle of the night shoving junk in my face hole for no reason not being able to stop myself. In a drive through line ordering stupid stuff just because I couldn't stop thinking about it. Not getting full and constantly thinking about what to dump down my throat.

I have a problem and this medicine fixes that problem thankfully.

Yeah, I think that some of us have hormone imbalances that aren't just going to go away when we lose weight.

 

[50ShadesGreyMarket]

See, this is where I think there is a difference in the 2 types of people taking GLP1s. There are the people who sound like they were fit and healthy before and just used it to get really shredded (which you sound like you fit here, as you have lots of healthy lifestyle habits anyway which you were able to stick to without the reta) and the people who were obese and struggled with controlling their intake before the meds.

Group 1 will be able to stop the meds. Group 2 will struggle if they do.

If group 2 uses the peptides to develop healthy habits couldn’t it work? I joined a gym and got a personal trainer after having my youngest just so I could have a strict regimen to drop the last of the baby weight. Once I was back in shape I invested in a home setup and used the Peloton app.

If you use your time learning how to cook healthy meals and creating a workout routine you enjoy then it seems you would have a much better chance of keeping the weight off. I agree they’ll struggle, but I don’t see it as impossible. I’ve known people who lost weight unassisted and were able to keep it off. It’s not easy but if you change your lifestyle it’s not impossible.

 

[Cassie MKM]

Taking GLP1 meds is no more natural than gaining weight inexplicably and being unable to lose it. I want to know the secret. Why did my body betray me? Why were there no obese people in 1950 but now a huge percentage of Americans are obese? So I’m on a quest to figure that out. Will I be on GLP1s in 2 years? Yes. Will I be on GLP1s in 10 years? I hope not. Of course I was on Glucophage/Metformin for 25 years trying to solve insulin resistance (which it didn’t do) so maybe I will be on GLP1s for many years.

Due to the current dietary issues, the diet is irregular and there are too many additives

 

[desinr-gal]

Taking GLP1 meds is no more natural than gaining weight inexplicably and being unable to lose it. I want to know the secret. Why did my body betray me? Why were there no obese people in 1950 but now a huge percentage of Americans are obese? So I’m on a quest to figure that out. Will I be on GLP1s in 2 years? Yes. Will I be on GLP1s in 10 years? I hope not. Of course I was on Glucophage/Metformin for 25 years trying to solve insulin resistance (which it didn’t do) so maybe I will be on GLP1s for many years.

I believe the answer to that is multilayered, but essentially, it is the fault of pre-prepared foods.
The adulteration of foods, the added chemicals, the highly refined calories, the preservatives.
Remember the main point of preservatives is to prevent fats from oxidizing. They don't quit just because they get eaten. Plastics, the toxins inside them affect our endocrine systems, stimulate estrogen etc.. All our food is stored mostly in plastics, served in plastic and we wear plastic..None of this existed in the 50s or 60s, and was just starting in the 70s.
Combined with a far more sedentary life. The majority of jobs shifted from manual labor to desk jobs. We all drive or get driven everywhere we go. That was not the lifestyle in the bygone eras. They actually did have to walk miles to school. Walking miles everyday and working on your feet burns a lot of calories, and keeps your muscles stronger than sitting.
I could go on...

 

[Chili777]

Taking GLP1 meds is no more natural than gaining weight inexplicably and being unable to lose it. I want to know the secret. Why did my body betray me? Why were there no obese people in 1950 but now a huge percentage of Americans are obese? So I’m on a quest to figure that out. Will I be on GLP1s in 2 years? Yes. Will I be on GLP1s in 10 years? I hope not. Of course I was on Glucophage/Metformin for 25 years trying to solve insulin resistance (which it didn’t do) so maybe I will be on GLP1s for many years.

Look at photos of those “fat” people. They would barely be considered overweight today.

I was a child of the 60s and 70s. I did some research (as in reading) and one thing that did change is dinner plate size. It may be small factor, but back then dinner plates were 8.5-9.0". Today, they are 12" and some restaurants have 13" plates. I love to cook and I cook healthy, so I went out and got a set of 8.5" dinner plates and that's all I use now. It's made a difference. I also don't stack it up like I'm at a buffet and I'm still satisfied after a meal. Maybe it's just psychological, but it's a step.

I still may stay on Reta long term, even on a low maintenance dose because it completely cancels food noise for me, but I know for some it doesn't.

 

[randompersonrandom]

I believe the answer to that is multilayered, but essentially, it is the fault of pre-prepared foods.
The adulteration of foods, the added chemicals, the highly refined calories, the preservatives.
Remember the main point of preservatives is to prevent fats from oxidizing. They don't quit just because they get eaten. Plastics, the toxins inside them affect our endocrine systems, stimulate estrogen etc.. All our food is stored mostly in plastics, served in plastic and we wear plastic..None of this existed in the 50s or 60s, and was just starting in the 70s.
Combined with a far more sedentary life. The majority of jobs shifted from manual labor to desk jobs. We all drive or get driven everywhere we go. That was not the lifestyle in the bygone eras. They actually did have to walk miles to school. Walking miles everyday and working on your feet burns a lot of calories, and keeps your muscles stronger than sitting.
I could go on...

I can't help thinking that there's a contributing factor of overwhelming and worldwide existential despair, widespread economic hopelessness, and the fact that literally everything that would make someone fat (sitting and passively, motionlessly consuming entertainment from a screen that you can lie down to consume from while shoving hyperpalateable food into your face to numb said despair) has been actively and incrementally engineered VERY successfully to be more addictive and more available. That's a really nasty and hard-to-fight combination.

 

[Foggy-Hollow]

I was a child of the 60s and 70s. I did some research (as in reading) and one thing that did change is dinner plate size. It may be small factor, but back then dinner plates were 8.5-9.0". Today, they are 12" and some restaurants have 13" plates. I love to cook and I cook healthy, so I went out and got a set of 8.5" dinner plates and that's all I use now. It's made a difference. I also don't stack it up like I'm at a buffet and I'm still satisfied after a meal. Maybe it's just psychological, but it's a step.

I still may stay on Reta long term, even on a low maintenance dose because it completely cancels food noise for me, but I know for some it doesn't.

There’s something psychological about seeing the empty space on the platter.. er, plate. Or maybe it’s seeing the full plate and thinking it looks good and like plenty of food.

Wayyy back when I had a successful run at weight watchers my group was encouraged to do the same: use smaller dinner plates. I can’t say if it was advice from my leader from her individual experience or an official rec. Yes it makes a difference. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[Chili777]

There’s something psychological about seeing the empty space on the platter.. er, plate. Or maybe it’s seeing the full plate and thinking it looks good and like plenty of food.

Wayyy back when I had a successful run at weight watchers my group was encouraged to do the same: use smaller dinner plates. I can’t say if it was advice from my leader from her individual experience or an official rec. Yes it makes a difference. Thanks for the reminder.

Yes, space means room for more food! Yay.

A 12" plate has 78% more surface area than a 8.5" plate. That's probably more than most people think.