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  1. indolent

    16 Weeks

    Welcome!
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    The dumbest thing I’ve read today.

    Cats should try a little willpower instead of cheating. Diet and exercise and self-discipline. It works for dogs.
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    Tirz Freezing/Defrosting

    Probably what was meant was the super-secret non-existent testing group-testing server. It goes by its four initials. And has a strict fight-club rules policy regarding its non-dangerous findings, for better and worse. A good route to that (many jump-hoops to join) is by joining Peppys...
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    Tirz Freezing/Defrosting

    And the homepage has the "table of contents" for all the forum categories and subcategories. Maybe that's what you meant by "tree".
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    MIX sterility fail

    Doesn't "sterility" specifically refer to viable microorganisms, rather than unexpected chemical components?
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    Tirz Freezing/Defrosting

    If you're asking about backing out within a discussion, look within the quoted post for the amber up-arrow in a circle. You can also use the page numbers at the bottom if it's something you recall from memory. If you've already commented on something, you can do Forums-->Find Threads...Threads...
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    Whats the highest concentration i can use?

    Good point! ; if your vial is going to take you through planned titration, anticipate it, taking your syringes into account
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    Whats the highest concentration i can use?

    Don't think about the concentration ratio...it's minimally relevant, and not even Big Pharma uses that approach. Massively huge subq injections (like 2 mL!) have been shown in medical journal published reports) to be irritating to the local tissue. Excessively tiny ones are harder to...
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    Whats the quality of Chinese Tirz compared to Lilly?

    It's a specific molecule and some chalky filler.
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    Hpt homepeptide T120mg

    Lyophilized vials from Chinese vendors have a near 100% negative test record (per Janoshik) for sterility issues. And I trust that Hospira bac water is sterile and not counterfeit (until that starts happening!). And same for syringes purchased from real pharmacies in states where Rx isn't...
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    Hpt homepeptide T120mg

    I can't help you with the vendor, but I've bought 124mg tirzepatide (tested mass) kits before from a different vendor. Unlike the usual peptides which come in 3mL vials, they came in 5mL vials. Here's what I did: reconstituted the whole vial (in the vial it comes in) without breaking it up or...
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    Guangzhou Jeep Biotechnology Co., Ltd (JEEP)

    A better, more specific question: any third-party tests outside of the JEEP on group-testing forums, overseen for firmly established protocols, like randomized vial selection and randomized vial collector, strictly enforcing and displaying batch-numbered identification. Vial photos in Jano...
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    Why is shipping so expensive?

    I believe I read that Australia has/had a wildly high Customs seizure rate. Certainly if the vendor offers a free/discounted reshipment, that factors in.
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    Refrigerator wasn’t working

    Yes, especially if it's actual brand-name Zepbound, whose literature allows for 21 days without refrigeration. The grey stuff is very stable... and presumably you've used good alcohol-swabbing before each vial septum puncture...?
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    Obesity Week 2025: Every Other Week for Maintenance Dosing Okay

    This study seems silly, given that the drugs' half lives are what they are. Who needs alternating-week normal vs crave/binge feelings, thoughts and behaviors? IMO the study's design is in support of the massively overpriced autoinjectors, not for the most beneficial maintenance dosing protocol.
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    Chart Showing Comparative Activation of Different Receptors by GLP-1 Drugs Involved

    With the measure shown in that chart, a lower number indicates a greater affinity. Not sure if that jibes with what you're saying, or not.
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    Chart Showing Comparative Activation of Different Receptors by GLP-1 Drugs Involved

    Thanks. This seems an important concept for stall-breaking, and a reason to avoid simplistic "more agonists = better" thinking. Each of the receptors has a primary association with a desirable effect (food noise suppression, gastric slowing, energy allocation or whatever). So switching or...
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    MIX “Recall” R30 & T60

    It'll be interesting to see which other vendors' tirz/reta manifest this way, and whether the vendor is proactive in notifying buyers. Jeep, a rumored twin, for starters.
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    Oh SWEET! Finnrick

    Search "Finnrick" here for perspectives on them
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    I found a new vendor on Finnrick who have a fair few test results. Curious if anyone has heard about them or any other info

    Unfortunately, SSA's failure to batch-ID properly (or even pretend to do so) made all third-party group testing more iffy than usual.
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    Proper Pronunciations

    This is a family drug-pusher-research website. Keep it clean.
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    What's the longest you've used a vial?

    I'm totally comfortable with at least three months (fridge, alcohol swabbing) and also freezing reconnned vials with wild abandon. BUT I want to add that fungal contamination is also a deadly possibility and (I think) much harder to fight off than most bacterial infections. We live in a world...
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    Can I re-inject tirz after 5 days?

    The short story is that if you're just starting with tirzepatide, stick to standard protocol of 2.5mg once a week, increasing dose by 2.5mg every four weeks. Side effects might diminish as your body gets used to it. That said... Tirzepatide has a half-life of five days, and some people...
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    Average costing tirz ,years worth

    It's impractical and inefficient for the authorities to scrutinize every package, so most get through. And truly dangerous or high-value taxable goods are prioritized. Look for a Chinese vendor which has a free reshipment guarantee in the event of seizure. And build extra time into your...
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    How do you know if peptides are what they say they are?

    It's a good question. Do a search for third-party group testing and similar arrangements of the words. An important part of the grey market.
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    What is a therapeutic dose of tirz

    5 mg is considered the lowest therapeutic dose of tirzepatide . To reduce nausea, drink water and eat small, healthy meals on the regular. Don't go without eating, even if your appetite is surpressed and you have none of the familiar food noise. Is it causing those effects for you at 2.5mg?
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    QSC - Don't call it a comeback

    Bleak House - - Jarndyce and Jarndyce
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    QSC - Don't call it a comeback

    Who won?
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    SSA Delay

    I try psyllium husk and prunes when that happens. 😉
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    QSC - Don't call it a comeback

    Call it a comeback: Great new Tracy interview today--the-tracy-comeback--at K-Hole Unloaded. Pull quote: "Eat dog shit"
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    SSA Delay

    Yes, exactly. Which is the same as printing up new-date labels every month and starting to use them when the old labels run out, as they do. And never change up the cap color. That's why we group-test what's presented as a new batch, and why we don't ever just rely on the cap color. When we...
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    First time buying…

    Janoshik (I forgot the owner's actual name) stated that they've virtually never found endotoxin or sterility issues with grey-market peptides, and that it's a waste of money to add those tests. For routine batch testing, purity and mass are important.
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    SSA Delay

    To be honest, I'm still stuck on SSA's willful failure to batch-ID properly, making it all a "feels" gamble. Next vendor!
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    New Vendor MIX Delivered

    Good point! I just did, using the CoA on Mix's Discord and manually typing in the codes. It verifies precisely, at all points on the documents. A good start.
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    New Vendor MIX Delivered

    MIX looks interesting. I like that they're specific in batch identification on the kits -- and hopefully they respect all aspects of batching and IDs, so that CoAs are meaningful and actionable. But I worry about dangerous mixups that could occur because their batch labels don't let you know...
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    Hospira BAC vs Sterile

    I bought a whole bunch just before the bacopalypse, and plan to use it up very slowly. If I were to buy now, it would be one or three vials at a time from a relatively pricey supplies reseller, or from a group buy ... always Hospira. I know which for neither sales channel category.
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    Hospira BAC vs Sterile

    Interesting ... and correct! I checked my Hospira vial and it does indeed specify Rx.
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    Hospira BAC vs Sterile

    By governmental requirement, or same as this bullshit newish Pfizer requirement in the USA which is 100% non-governmental as far as I can tell? Corrected per @PopTart's comment below. USA apparently requires Rx for diluents marketed for injection use.
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    Anyone heard of WWB

    I heard of them by using the search feature on this website, and typing WWB.
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    How does a newbie get into discord groups?

    There are three main testing groups. I suggest you start with the one that is run in the most open way, Flying Purple Pep Guild (click name for Discord link). If you can't find what you need there, ask there for references to the others. The supersecret nonexistent one has the highest barrier...
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    Searching for Hospira BAC, found this supplier

    That video also ran on this website. In it, he recommended only using the reconned stuff for a very short time. Maybe that's because he uses a diluent that doesn't include anything to retard microbial growth???
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    I blocked my own mother on Telegram

    I like the supermarket-tabloid headline
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    Is it legal? UK

    I think you very well know the answers to both questions. Which is a good thing, because this isn't really the right forum for legal questions.
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    Question about Bac Water

    But we don't know WHY Pfizer recommends that. I'm assuming marketing to hospitals. And yes, I'm assuming it stays at least as well in the freezer as at room temp ... refrigerator temps might be another story.
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    I think I might be dumb….

    Use the reverse calculator instead. Insulin syringes basically come in 1.0 mL (100 units), 0.5 mL (50 units), and 0.3 mL (30 units) ... you can find photos online with a simple search. Pay attention to 1 unit vs 2 unit increments for the tick marks.
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    Question about Bac Water

    There are very few consumer goods for which I place any stock in brands or branding. But bac water is one. For reasons I can only guess at (expensive to build a sterile production line for low-value product?), no other manufacturer seems to produce it, and Pfizer seems to have no interest in...
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    How to make a vial last 3 months in the fridge?

    You're overthinking this. In the grey community, many many people consider 3 months a reasonable time for refrigeration of tirzepatide. It neither degrades nor becomes less sterile. In fact, prominent compounding pharmacies routinely send out three months' worth at a time, with instructions...
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    Guangzhou Jeep Biotechnology Co., Ltd (JEEP)

    That's a very bad idea if you intend to use PayPal in the long term, for anything. PayPal readily shuts down accounts involved in shady purchases, including these grey vendors, and permanently bans the user. I'm not sure if they also bar the user from Venmo, which they own. Learn crypto...
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    I think I might be dumb….

    Use the reverse calculator in my signature, shooting for a number of units per dose that corresponds with a marked number on your syringe between 10 and 30, such that anticipated increases in your dosage in mg will also fall on a marked number. The amount of bac water you add will probably not...
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