All star pro pen

[FlowerFairy]

Here is the pen I mentioned ina previous post £50 delivered china to UK in a week. Hopefully it is a legit version
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Gansulins are nice pens. I have 2.

 

[FlowerFairy]

I just read through their instructions as well ... what kind of BS is that? Its a piece of plastic. I see no reason to not put it in the fridge. Also why in the world would you need to replace it in 3 years? I mean aside from convincing you to buy a new one.

That 3 year thing kills me. There is a vendor on AliExpress selling Luxuras with a small visual defect. One review complained that they received a pen that “expired” in 2017. 🙄 I felt my iq drop when I read that.

 

[littledragon25]

I am currently favouring the Gensupen 2. So much so I found a guy on eBay selling them, but he would only sell in bulk. I need 2 more... I've bought 10. Guess I need to find more peps to use!

 

[IshimaruKenta]

I am currently favouring the Gensupen 2. So much so I found a guy on eBay selling them, but he would only sell in bulk. I need 2 more... I've bought 10. Guess I need to find more peps to use!

That's the Bird pen. Nice, but cheaper quality and cheaper price than the gansulin.

 

[IshimaruKenta]

That 3 year thing kills me. There is a vendor on AliExpress selling Luxuras with a small visual defect. One review complained that they received a pen that “expired” in 2017. 🙄 I felt my iq drop when I read that.

I explained why they have an expiration date in a previous post.

 

[Paladine]

I just purchased a Gansulin on eBay for probably too much money. But, I want to try this whole pen thing. Where would be the best place to purchase the cartridges?

 

[4StrandKnot]

I just read through their instructions as well ... what kind of BS is that? Its a piece of plastic. I see no reason to not put it in the fridge. Also why in the world would you need to replace it in 3 years? I mean aside from convincing you to buy a new one.

They can and do go in the fridge. Gansulin pens are insulin pens. The recommendation is that the pen is stored in the fridge until it is used. Then once it is open, it should be kept out of the fridge and used within 28 days.

Cold insulin is painful to inject, and the compound is sensitive to temperature changes. It's believed to be better to keep the pen at room temp for the 4 week window, rather than than taking it from the fridge, warming it up, and returning it to the fridge.

 

[4StrandKnot]

There are technically 3 "auto" pens on the market. They're 100% not the same as the auto-injector pens like Zepbound or Mounjaro. If you've seen regular pens, you dial the dose and have to manually push it in for it to give you the dose. With auto pens, you dial the dose, but you just push a button and it injects the dose. You still have to push the needle into you, but you don't push the end to inject. The button does it.

The three pens are the Gansulin pen (green), the Bird pen (red) and Mumford Autoject2. The Autoject 2 is similar to the Zepbound pens and isn't as ni e as the others. The Gansulin is the Chinese version of the ServoPen, and the Bird pen is the Chinese version of the GensuPen2. The Gansulin pen is about $52-78 from US sellers, but about $115ish from AliExpress. Bird pen is about $35. My favorite is the Gansulin and it's just so nice. Expensive but well worth it.

I have the AutoJect2. I have never used the Bird or the Gansulin, but I don't think they are in the same class. The AutoJect isn't really a pen at all -- it's plastic housing that sits around a disposable syringe. It creates a mechanized action for an EasyTouch (or equivalent).

I haven't tried it yet, but I will next week. I don't have confidence that I can successfully inject myself in the abdomen due to the angles involved, this looked like a reasonable option.

 

[IshimaruKenta]

I just purchased a Gansulin on eBay for probably too much money. But, I want to try this whole pen thing. Where would be the best place to purchase the cartridges?

Lots of places. AliExpress is super cheap but you can't trust that they're actually sterile. Underground Supply uses UV but UV can degrade the plastic plunger/nub. If they say they've been sterilized in an autoclave, those are properly done. Just really depends on how sterile you want them.

 

[pughster25]

I am currently favouring the Gensupen 2. So much so I found a guy on eBay selling them, but he would only sell in bulk. I need 2 more... I've bought 10. Guess I need to find more peps to use!

I bought some of the V2's from Ali, they are all right but if pressed too hard dont do the full does as they skip, is the Gensupen 2 from UK Ebay? cheapest i could see was Poland approx £80 delivered for a single pen, managed get an all star for £20 as there was no carry case/box

 

[littledragon25]

I bought some of the V2's from Ali, they are all right but if pressed too hard dont do the full does as they skip, is the Gensupen 2 from UK Ebay? cheapest i could see was Poland approx £80 delivered for a single pen, managed get an all star for £20 as there was no carry case/box

No, from Poland. They arrived and were legit. So much so I then organised a group buy and have 40 pens now ordered for other UK peeps which I'll send out once they arrive.

 

[desinr-gal]

I bought some of the V2's from Ali, they are all right but if pressed too hard dont do the full does as they skip, is the Gensupen 2 from UK Ebay? cheapest i could see was Poland approx £80 delivered for a single pen, managed get an all star for £20 as there was no carry case/box

what? Skip? How can you tell??

 

[BellyD]

When it comes to convenience, and costs. Between the cartridges and the pens is just more expensive than buying a 31 gauge. Or is the convenience so worth it?

Newbie here leaning. Would rather buy once and cry once.

 

[FlowerFairy]

No, from Poland. They arrived and were legit. So much so I then organised a group buy and have 40 pens now ordered for other UK peeps which I'll send out once they arrive.

Can I ask where you bought from? I love the gensupen and would buy more if I could find them..

 

[FlowerFairy]

I explained why they have an expiration date in a previous post.

And I didn’t see that. So.
Edit read your post.
And my statement stands. These are new in box pens that were manufactured in 2017. That reviewer was still an idiot for complaining about an “expired pen.”

 

[MsGizmo]

When it comes to convenience, and costs. Between the cartridges and the pens is just more expensive than buying a 31 gauge. Or is the convenience so worth it?

Newbie here leaning. Would rather buy once and cry once.

Well I just recently tried using a syringe instead of my normal injection pen because I ran out of cartridges and didn't notice until my injection day. I had to either use the syringes I originally purchased or hold off on taking my sema as scheduled. So a syringe it was. I can say with confidence that the syringe hurt more. I think that the needle is dulled by sticking it into the vial.

Also, yes, the injection pen is more convenient.

Finally ... what do you mean about buying once? Are you not using a new syringe for each injection?

 

[BellyD]

Well I just recently tried using a syringe instead of my normal injection pen because I ran out of cartridges and didn't notice until my injection day. I had to either use the syringes I originally purchased or hold off on taking my sema as scheduled. So a syringe it was. I can say with confidence that the syringe hurt more. I think that the needle is dulled by sticking it into the vial.

Also, yes, the injection pen is more convenient.

Finally ... what do you mean about buying once? Are you not using a new syringe for each injection?

New syringe/ alcohol wipes and follow all safety protocols/requirements each time!
Im curious how often a new pen is needed at 30-100 USD! (Someone mentioned the bird pens are lower quality)

 

[IshimaruKenta]

New syringe/ alcohol wipes and follow all safety protocols/requirements each time!
Im curious how often a new pen is needed at 30-100 USD! (Someone mentioned the bird pens are lower quality)

3-5 years depending on how often you use it. The mechanics wear out. Those "2017" expirations are from Eli Lilly where they're guaranteed (I'm guessing) to work without fault until that date. Odds are, they'll work just fine since they're "brand new".

Birds aren't lower quality in the sense it'll break sooner, it's just made from plastic and doesn't feel or look as nice. It's a quality pen, just not my favorite.

 

[desinr-gal]

New syringe/ alcohol wipes and follow all safety protocols/requirements each time!
Im curious how often a new pen is needed at 30-100 USD! (Someone mentioned the bird pens are lower quality)

the V1 an V2 pens are available from places for a very reasonable price. The difference is you push down the button to inject as slow or fast as you want. I actually prefer this. I like having control and allowing the liquid time to sink in. and they come in nice colors, so you can easily keep track of what you are pinning.

 

[FlowerFairy]

New syringe/ alcohol wipes and follow all safety protocols/requirements each time!
Im curious how often a new pen is needed at 30-100 USD! (Someone mentioned the bird pens are lower quality)

I’ve not needed to replace any of my autopens. I stopped using my Allstar because it popped apart mid- pin. That is the only pen I stopped using due to malfunction. I use 8 pens daily and have since about this time last year. The pens allegedly last around 3 years, but I’m not there yet so I can’t say. Cartridges are replaced once empty (lasting around a month, depending on number of doses). Needles are like syringes, single use. And a good number of my pens were less than $30. All were less than $100. Plus the pins are less painful.

 

[MsGizmo]

Im curious how often a new pen is needed at 30-100 USD! (Someone mentioned the bird pens are lower quality)

I am not so sure that the pens are only going to last 3 years but since I have only been using them since July I can't really say that anyone is wrong about it. So let's assume that 3 years is accurate.

You are right. They do cost more. I estimate that a pen costs about $30-50 per year depending on what pen you buy and syringes probably cost about $3-10 depending on the quality/brand. But in my opinion the fact that they hurt less and are easier to deal with makes that small extra cost worth it.

 

[pughster25]

what? Skip? How can you tell??

testing them with water and a slin pin stuck in the cartridge instead if the usual pen needle, turn the dial to your dose and push, if pushed too hard they skip and you get a lower dose than expected

 

[pughster25]

No, from Poland. They arrived and were legit. So much so I then organised a group buy and have 40 pens now ordered for other UK peeps which I'll send out once they arrive.

Nice, would be interested if your doing a group buy in the future