Any recommendations on grey vendors without crypto?

Let them. If people don’t want to use crypto they need to use what they can. People ruined PayPal with bogus claims. There used to be a time where people would send cash in birthday cards to get AAS. It’s a gamble no matter what you use.
I understand gambling, but if you like your bank, it’s a risk using g zelle. Granted, they question EVERY PURCHASE I MAKE, but hopefully they won’t close my account because I spent too much this year on my hair and nails….
 
NEXAPH I only buy on pre-sales.
This is me. I like Nexaph because they are popular and have a lot of testing. The vendor does their own, per usual, then they sponsor third party testing, and then there's likely to be non-sponsored third party as well. The Reta I recently got from them had four vials tested from the vendor, and like 10 more vials (at least) that should have results within the next week. That's way better than any other group testing I've been part of yet.

For me it also matters that I just got hosed for around $400 on a group buy because 1) bad product, and 2) another untested product that was not popular at all so no interest in a group test. So I'm starting to think I may stick with nexaph pre-sales for everything. I don't need to scrimp and save every last dollar, I'll pay a little extra for good testing and less hassle.
 
Work at a highly regulated financial firm, my employment agreement prohibits me from owning/mining any crypto, and must attest to that yearly (as well as reporting being a party of or to any legal action, etc). So with KYC in place for buying crypto, I am not going risking my job just save $40. Therefore I don’t and I have had good experiences with nexaph (credit card) amo/bfflist (paypal via alibaba) for kits of 10. and grey axis research (paypal), and an independent going by BioBombshell (venmo) for single vials, both seem to be reselling singles from group buys.
omg! i was reporting my experiences, but now just looked at nexaph vs bbflink prices. holy yikes! nexaph has no pre-order so is all 2-3x the price of bff which is all on sale now. crazy.
 
For me it also matters that I just got hosed for around $400 on a group buy because 1) bad product, and 2) another untested product that was not popular at all so no interest in a group test. So I'm starting to think I may stick with nexaph pre-sales for everything. I don't need to scrimp and save every last dollar, I'll pay a little extra for good testing and less hassle.

Yeah I think I’ve arrived at the same place for the same reasons. I don’t think there’s another vendor that is tested as much as they are, and to me that’s worth an extra $5 per week or whatever.

Unfortunately it seems like only the most popular stuff goes on presale.
 
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