Anybody freeze drying their own?

[BigScout]

I've been recently looking at buying raw materials and freeze drying them myself. The equipment to do it isn't crazy expensive.

Of course would need to ensure that raw products are sterile an the environment in my own "lab" is sterile.

Thought I would toss the idea out there and see if anybody else has ventured that direction.

 

[indolent]

OMG

 

[Rosco P. Coltrane]

Just throw it in the freezer.

 

[randompersonrandom]

OMG

Yesterday, 7:31 pm, in a thread about a bunch of Australians coming down with liver poisoning, @dogmom be like:

I'm surprised you don't hear more stories of this. There are still people who think they can buy bags of raw peps of reta and tirz and put in vials themselves. There are also people who think they can reconstitute with tap water.

Fourish hours later, this guy be like "hey so...."

 

[CMA Pooky]

I've been recently looking at buying raw materials and freeze drying them myself. The equipment to do it isn't crazy expensive.

Of course would need to ensure that raw products are sterile an the environment in my own "lab" is sterile.

Thought I would toss the idea out there and see if anybody else has ventured that direction.

 

[BlatantlyObviousXL]

You would need a sterile room with negative air pressure, an industrial lab hood, the container, the gloves, the autoclave, the tools, the scale, know how to verify the scale, how to verify the tools, etc etc to make sure you were actually sterile. In the lab I ran we got a hit of Gram Negative - Pseudomonas aeruginosa which is what we were testing for. HOWEVER it turned out it was in the filtered water supply. You are taking a lot of risk by trying to do this. Even though grey is a risk, it is very likely NOT as much of a risk as your home. You don't have weekly pest control, daily sanitation, you're not going to have sticky floor mats and or a foot bath. Let alone the copious amounts of benzo alcohol that are used to wipe things down. I had veteran SME Microbiologists working in the lab and mistakes were still made. It happens, except they know when they happen and can course correct. Also they were working under USP standards. Do you know USP? GMP? How is your lab technique? Not saying this to hurt you but those standards exist for reasons beyond 'certification'.

I would highly encourage you to do a LOT more research before you go any further and hope that you will not pursue this course of action. Just think about the risk of grey and reconstitution...now you're taking that risk and multiplying by factors in the thousands.

 

[Flash-BCR]

You would need a sterile room with negative air pressure, an industrial lab hood, the container, the gloves, the autoclave, the tools, the scale, know how to verify the scale, how to verify the tools, etc etc to make sure you were actually sterile. In the lab I ran we got a hit of Gram Negative - Pseudomonas aeruginosa which is what we were testing for. HOWEVER it turned out it was in the filtered water supply. You are taking a lot of risk by trying to do this. Even though grey is a risk, it is very likely NOT as much of a risk as your home. You don't have weekly pest control, daily sanitation, you're not going to have sticky floor mats and or a foot bath. Let alone the copious amounts of benzo alcohol that are used to wipe things down. I had veteran SME Microbiologists working in the lab and mistakes were still made. It happens, except they know when they happen and can course correct. Also they were working under USP standards. Do you know USP? GMP? How is your lab technique? Not saying this to hurt you but those standards exist for reasons beyond 'certification'.

I would highly encourage you to do a LOT more research before you go any further and hope that you will not pursue this course of action. Just think about the risk of grey and reconstitution...now you're taking that risk and multiplying by factors in the thousands.

Whelp...That sure throws a damper on my weekend plans then...

 

[FartfulCodger]

I think this kind of process that is fraught with a million things that could go wrong along the way. You'd have to be Walter White to pull this off.

I'm not even sure what is meant by "raw materials". How would this work? To synthesize GHK you would buy glycine, histidine, and lysine separately and then somehow link them together with a toothpick? Maybe tape the mixture to an old penny for a while to make it GHK-Cu? Now that I think of it, even the expense involved would be prohibitive.

 

[Flash-BCR]

Just throw it in the freezer.

^^^My new supplier!...

 

[CNCCurrency]

I've been recently looking at buying raw materials and freeze drying them myself. The equipment to do it isn't crazy expensive.

Of course would need to ensure that raw products are sterile an the environment in my own "lab" is sterile.

Thought I would toss the idea out there and see if anybody else has ventured that direction.

Do think you are capable of measuring the molecules for each vial?

 

[5byfive]