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[RetaRX]

This is where mine was at and is seized using the Chinese freight forwarders tracking - lots of others on the same date too.

Interesting, I haven’t received confirmation of seizure yet.

 

[Shadow Dancer]

Hi from Tassie!

I'm about to put my first order in and I am nervous about customs.

Is it better to do a couple of smaller orders or one big one? I am wanting to purchase 6-8 different kits.

 

[BalkanBuffalo]

Hi from Tassie!

I'm about to put my first order in and I am nervous about customs.

Is it better to do a couple of smaller orders or one big one? I am wanting to purchase 6-8 different kits.

I would assume the one package would be safer as you’re rolling the dice once and not multiple times

 

[BalkanBuffalo]

How’s people’s experience been with DHL express as a pose to standard shipping from vendor’s? Customs and door to door time

 

[Notoriouz]

Interesting, I haven’t received confirmation of seizure yet.

I just went through my vendor after I saw the tracking data that said it was held. They confirmed it was seized and are organising a reshipment, no letter per se.

 

[WholesomeApril]

My vendor said Brissy is a bit hot but has been for a while. The rest of the country is business as usual.

 

[lemoncrisp]

How’s people’s experience been with DHL express as a pose to standard shipping from vendor’s? Customs and door to door time

I decided to go with DHL express with one of my vendors for the first time on 12/6 to see if it was worth it. It was supposed to be delivered today but nada.

 

[lessthanhalf]

There was an article in the age newspaper today about 6 cases of liver toxicity in Victoria caused by what is presumed to be a contaminant in retatrutide. Not a lot of info on where it came from, picture is utopia branding, and I think that is the source although I cannot confirm for certain it is not a stock picture.

So if anyone in Australia has utopia branded reta do not use it

It also mentions a recent death in Victoria due to peptides that I will have to try to track down

It also mentions the TGA has instituted a crackdown on peptides sourced locally in Australia or from overseas, but not much in the way of detail.

For some reason I do not seem to be able to make a new post about this, although I have had no problems in the past, just says something went wrong

health department warning

Toxicity linked to unapproved peptide product labelled Retatrutide

The department has been notified of six cases of acute liver toxicity associated with an unapproved peptide product in Australia, labelled Retatrutide.

www.health.vic.gov.au

Age article

Urgent warning as six Victorians suffer liver poisoning from illegal weight loss peptide

The Victorian Chief Health Officer said it was believed the patients became seriously unwell after using an unapproved peptide product labelled as Retatrutide.

www.theage.com.au

The age is paywalled but should let you read 5 free articles.

 

[lessthanhalf]

I found the source of the death report. copied from main post so Aussies will see it

"The Coroner’s Court confirmed it was investigating a death related to the use of growth-stimulating peptides (CJC 1295 and ipamorelin) prescribed by a medical practitioner."
I would love to know the sourcing of this, and how well that source was vetted before the doctor prescribed it , and what is thought to have caused the death.

I am still a bit confused as to why I am not seeing much in the way of scientific papers documenting these issues, that article alone has a significant number of serious harms and one death from peptides all occurring locally in Victoria, with a population of 7 million. No way to know numbers of peptide users in that area, tens or maybe even hundreds of thousands? Do you need to look up huge numbers of different local drug adverse reaction reports from different locations to get any idea of how common it is? There is no way accurate risks can be determined, but even a vague order of magnitude risk would be better than no idea. And it is important, if the odds of serious adverse reactions were known , it would enable more rational decisions about peptide use especially for use cases that I would see as non essential. Overall I suspect that GLP drugs from grey sources save more lives than are harmed by them, probably a lot more, but is this true for KLOW or GLOW or CJC 1295 and ipamorelin?

The article it is from is generally pretty alarmist in tone and headlines, but is actually medically sourced information.

Amputations, heart attacks, days of vomiting: The horror toll of ‘backyard’ peptides

Victorians are taking peptides for everything from weight loss and body building to skin improvements. Many end up in hospitals with severe side effects.

www.theage.com.au

 

[BalkanBuffalo]

I found the source of the death report. copied from main post so Aussies will see it

"The Coroner’s Court confirmed it was investigating a death related to the use of growth-stimulating peptides (CJC 1295 and ipamorelin) prescribed by a medical practitioner."
I would love to know the sourcing of this, and how well that source was vetted before the doctor prescribed it , and what is thought to have caused the death.

I am still a bit confused as to why I am not seeing much in the way of scientific papers documenting these issues, that article alone has a significant number of serious harms and one death from peptides all occurring locally in Victoria, with a population of 7 million. No way to know numbers of peptide users in that area, tens or maybe even hundreds of thousands? Do you need to look up huge numbers of different local drug adverse reaction reports from different locations to get any idea of how common it is? There is no way accurate risks can be determined, but even a vague order of magnitude risk would be better than no idea. And it is important, if the odds of serious adverse reactions were known , it would enable more rational decisions about peptide use especially for use cases that I would see as non essential. Overall I suspect that GLP drugs from grey sources save more lives than are harmed by them, probably a lot more, but is this true for KLOW or GLOW or CJC 1295 and ipamorelin?

The article it is from is generally pretty alarmist in tone and headlines, but is actually medically sourced information.

Amputations, heart attacks, days of vomiting: The horror toll of ‘backyard’ peptides

Victorians are taking peptides for everything from weight loss and body building to skin improvements. Many end up in hospitals with severe side effects.

www.theage.com.au

No facts, just allegations. No post mortem. No papers, no proof. Typical journalism. Another “died from covid” claim.

 

[lessthanhalf]

No facts, just allegations. No post mortem. No papers, no proof. Typical journalism. Another “died from covid” claim.

This article is sensationalist, but those reporting the problems are doctors involved in the cases or leaders of medical organisations, and the death is currently being investigated by the organisation that investigates causes of death in Australia, suspicious or unknown, and there most certainly will be autopsies etc, but it may or may not be made public. The health department report is the local health management structure, there is no more reliable source than that. Australia does not suffer from the politicisation of such organisations that currently plague the US. ( or at least to nowhere near the same extent ) They are responsible for public health so if they think something poses a risk to public health, that is what they say, and in this case the concern is entirely reasonable if a little overstated.

If you do not believe primary legitimate sources then there is nothing that can convince you of anything.