They neither blame nor applaud. They simply state that the Biden administration had made a proposal for change, and that the Trump administration scrapped it.“would maintain a long-standing prohibition on covering drugs for weight loss”
The will try to blame anything on Trump.
The long standing prohibition was in a time period where weight loss drugs were neither safe nor efficacious.“would maintain a long-standing prohibition on covering drugs for weight loss”
They will try to blame anything on Trump.
The long standing prohibition was in a time period where weight loss drugs were neither safe nor efficacious.
I thought it was more that it was considered merely a cosmetic treatment, not medical.
Not to mention easily avoidable through diet & exercise & lifestyle change & willpower & chewing each mouthful 100 times & ordering the dietetic cottage cheese platter
As you can see, I'm doing a stationary sit-up/feet-up, and barely touching the stack of jumbo pancakes. Yet.Yeah, Indo, get up off that office chair and start jogging in place!
As you can see, I'm doing a stationary sit-up/feet-up, and barely touching the stack of jumbo pancakes. Yet.
That’s the RFK Jr. position.I thought it was more that it was considered merely a cosmetic treatment, not medical.
Not to mention easily avoidable through diet & exercise & lifestyle change & willpower & chewing each mouthful 100 times & ordering the dietetic cottage cheese platter
I don’t know why people are taking medical advice from a Kennedy. Last I checked, the men in that family all die young. Dude is jacked, but he always looks like he has to take a 10 pound crap. That is one of the most corrupt families in the world.That’s the RFK Jr. position.
I wouldn't take medical advice from someone like him, who doesn't know what he's talking about. However, the health problems of the Kennedy men seem to be related to being shot or getting into airplane crashes. Bad medical advice has nothing to do with it.I don’t know why people are taking medical advice from a Kennedy. Last I checked, the men in that family all die young. Dude is jacked, but he always looks like he has to take a 10 pound crap. That is one of the most corrupt families in the world.
That lead poisoning will get you every time.I wouldn't take medical advice from someone like him, who doesn't know what he's talking about. However, the health problems of the Kennedy men seem to be related to being shot or getting into airplane crashes. Bad medical advice has nothing to do with it.
It's literally his administration overturning what the previous administration ruled. No GLPs, but plenty of koolaid for the crew.“would maintain a long-standing prohibition on covering drugs for weight loss”
They will try to blame anything on Trump.
It’s “literally” something that has been this way for several administrations. Why does everything have to be political with you people. The government shouldn’t pay for everything, for everyone.It's literally his administration overturning what the previous administration ruled. No GLPs, but plenty of koolaid for the crew.
They only rose to prominence in the Biden administration and the Biden administration started the process to get them covered by Medicare and Medicaid.It’s “literally” something that has been this way for several administrations. Why does everything have to be political with you people. The government shouldn’t pay for everything, for everyone.
This wasn't a real concern before the last administration. Then they tried to do something about it. You're just wrong about this one. Whether it should or shouldn't happen is a completely different point and you're trying to move the goalposts.It’s “literally” something that has been this way for several administrations. Why does everything have to be political with you people. The government shouldn’t pay for everything, for everyone.
I get what you are saying, but no military aged person should be on Medicaid long enough for GLP-1s to work and improve other areas of their health.They only rose to prominence in the Biden administration and the Biden administration started the process to get them covered by Medicare and Medicaid.
This is like saying that we shouldn't cover any new thing because it hadn't been covered before. It's not a logical argument and that has nothing to do with politics.
As for if the government shouldn't pay for everything for everyone, sure. But let's do an ROI study - and I'd gamble on medicare and medicaid providing glp-1s would reduce the overall cost burden for health on taxpayers. Because being fat is expensive as fuck to the medical system.
So you’re good with Medicare covering them then?I get what you are saying, but no military aged person should be on Medicaid long enough for GLP-1s to work and improve other areas of their health.
Yes. Generally speaking, people contributed to Medicare in order to be able to receive it. We currently have 2nd and 3rd generation welfare recipients receiving Medicaid who can work. They just choose not to. They get more than enough for free.So you’re good with Medicare covering them then?
So you’re not against glp1s being covered, you’re against Medicaid generally? Or Medicaid supporting anything other than the most bare bones emergency care? Just trying to get to the nub of where you’re coming from and where glp1s specifically fit into the picture.Yes. Generally speaking, people contributed to Medicare in order to be able to receive it. We currently have 2nd and 3rd generation welfare recipients receiving Medicaid who can work. They just choose not to. They get more than enough for free.
So you’re not against glp1s being covered, you’re against Medicaid generally? Or Medicaid supporting anything other than the most bare bones emergency care? Just trying to get to the nub of where you’re coming from and where glp1s specifically fit into I’m not against Medicaid.
But you're assuming medicare would pay list price. Try looking what people pay for this drug in other countries. There is power in large bodies negotiating.Keeping my political opinions out of this I do see the sense in not allowing so many people on this drug for weight loss. At $1000 a month that could easily send the cost of Medicare through the roof. Many seniors struggle to pay for Medicare as it is. If it's for diabetes that's one thing but for weight loss you would way too many people on it. That's why lots of insurance company's are making it to hard to get. It would send the cost that we pay skyrocketing. Blame that on the drug makers that set the price.
They would pay full price because they’re not allowed to negotiate, a direct result of the influence of business on legislators. While I agree with panda that people who are capable of paying for their insurance should do so, I also think that the system is so FUBAR’d that the cost is beyond the means of many more people than it should be. The solution is not less coverage, as panda is advocating and in my opinion is an unsophisticated approach to an extraordinarily complex situation, but rather enabling affordability.But you're assuming medicare would pay list price. Try looking what people pay for this drug in other countries. There is power in large bodies negotiating.
Another policy direction literally changed by this administration was the ability to negotiate drug costs.They would pay full price because they’re not allowed to negotiate, a direct result of the influence of business on legislators. While I agree with panda that people who are capable of paying for their insurance should do so, I also think that the system is so FUBAR’d that the cost is beyond the means of many more people than it should be. The solution is not less coverage, as panda is advocating and in my opinion is an unsophisticated approach to an extraordinarily complex situation, but rather enabling affordability.
Military aged what?I get what you are saying, but no military aged person should be on Medicaid long enough for GLP-1s to work and improve other areas of their health.