I’m referring to people who are old enough to work, but not retirement age. They should be working and paying their own way. Freeloaders don’t deserve these drugs. They can buy them just like us if they don’t have insurance to cover it.
Axios: Trump admin won't let Medicare cover anti-obesity drugs
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Are you referring to the U.S. Military as a dumping ground for otherwise unemployable or marginally-employable people, a last resort for the minimally competent?
No, I’m referring to anyone who is perfectly capable (which is most people) of finding gainful employment, but I’m not against anyone serving a country rather than being one of its dependents. Who are you referring to as “unemployable or marginally unemployable.” If people are minimally competent they have bigger problems than GLP-1s.
If someone is capable of creating accounts, and engaging in discussions on forums, they are absolutely capable of finding gainful employment.
I would add that when I joined the Army at 17 I was quite incompetent. Most people are at that age. They have fought and won wars throughout human history.
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If you are utterly incompetent and don’t want to join the military there is always the option of facilitating group buys.
I'm pretty sure the people on these forums who are advocating for Medicaid coverage of GLP-1s aren't advocating for themselves.
But maybe they're advocating for the 300 lb person who would otherwise get a job as, say, a cashier but for the fact that 300 lbs on two feet for 8 hours doesn't really work very well. Peptides to the rescue.
The good news for all of those people is that my opinion doesn’t matter. 😂 I love my country but have no faith in politicians on either side of the aisle to make the right decisions. My responses are all based off of personal experience and emotions. If someone was going to be in a position to make life saving/changing decisions, I hope they have nowhere near my level of cynicism.
Windingroads06
Less is More
I am. Actually, I am all for people getting these medications that are having positive impacts in multiple areas of health.
As a professional working in a role that witnesses the debacle of the medicaid system ( 25 years), I concur. I have many, many stories.
100%!
Even at retail these are a good investment - with major quality of life and reduced cost of care benefits.
But when you factor in how cheap they are to make? Absolute no brainer.
The govt should acquire the patent via some "benefit to society" rule and distribute freely.
Imagine if Jonas Salk tried to do this shit? We are becoming truly horrible as a people.
Please don’t forget cabbage soup
I once bought a used book (1970s?) called The Sexy Pineapple Diet because it was a sexy used book.
I still gained weight in the long run, though. But probably only because I didn't chew each bite 10,000 times before swallowing.
Too bad the federal government couldn't just buy one of the companies with a decently promising glp in the pipeline but no money for trials. Fast track it under emergency authorization like the COVID vaccine. Move it directly to generic and cover it with Medicaid/Medicare. Might make people live too long drawing social security though.
Ted R
GLP-1 Member
Don't think I'll be taking anything that the government is involved in or promotes.
I hear ya, gotta draw the line somewhere. I'll stick with mail order from a super hot Chinese model I met on an anonymous discord server that only accepts crypto.
I think there is much more middle ground than the media portrays on the big issues. I for one am tired of the extremes on each side and while I might not agree with someone, I will gladly have constructive discourse with them.
The biggest two mistakes people make is
1.) Thinking ANY politician cares about them. 2.) Thinking they are more important than they really are. Especially all the screamers out there. Just because you say something louder, doesn’t make it any more correct.
As I get older, I’m either buying into conspiracies more, OR I realize that many people in positions of power prosper through the division of the working class. Like the old Latin maxim “divide et impara.”
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Lol, sure, sure.
Blitziod
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Medicaid generally covers weight loss surgery. So there is at least that. That’s better than my health insurance.
Not covering GLP1 s is going to cost way more down the road. Esp when they become generic. Sema isn’t that far from being off patent.
I think GLP1 maybe back doored into coverage. They are being looked at as a cure for sleep apnea for example. A disorder most overweight people have. Same with type 2 diabetes.
Not covering GLP1 s is going to cost way more down the road. Esp when they become generic. Sema isn’t that far from being off patent.
I think GLP1 maybe back doored into coverage. They are being looked at as a cure for sleep apnea for example. A disorder most overweight people have. Same with type 2 diabetes.
Blitziod
Recently Joined
Or just fast track a drug for a consortium of generic providers.
If the federal government got involved, they would screw it up so bad that people would probably gain weight. They can’t do anything right.
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Exactly. People are so stupid and this is why we can't have nice things.
Ted R
GLP-1 Member
They will fast-track ANYTHING if the grease hits all the right wheels....
While we all like to complain about how the government sucks, the US government is effectively the largest, most complicated, most diverse corporation in the world. Of all the shit it does, most of it works OK, and some of it it does better than literally anyone else. Some of it is an absolute shitshow.
But on the whole? It actually works surprisingly well. We just don't think about all of the stuff that actually works properly, and it interfaces with more of our lives than any other entity. We just take life more-or-less working for granted.
I was a cog in that wheel for over 20 years with both military and civilian service. You are correct that it’s ok for what it is, but I don’t trust them for a lot of things. My health especially. The Department of Veterans Affairs is over 90 years old and it is absolutely chaotic at best. If they can’t even get that right they have no business getting involved in other arenas of healthcare.
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It does do a decent job at most things. Where things go wrong is where rules are stacked on rules every 4 years. Lots of well meaning laws have unintentional consequences. Past efforts to reduce waste or fraud have resulted so many additional layers of oversight/security/ auditing that it costs 10 times more in person hours than were ever saved. Even with all the problems, a lot of things succeed but go unnoticed. Just travel to a industrial country without an USDA to check your food or an EPA to limit what corporations dump into our rivers. Go for a swim and catch a fish to eat if you dare.
