UK BAC water in the UK - some vendor responses

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Hi all,

Bit of a hassle getting Hospira BAC water in the UK. I've just put a pre-order in with https://www.midwiferysupplies.ca/ which came to £31.61 for 5x30ml bottles. Not a bad price if I can make them last.

Got me thinking if anyone has found any good suppliers of BAC with good COAs in the UK. Might be trying to find the holy grail but thought I'd ask. I've asked these sellers so far.

New Wave Peptides
Actually do have COAs and they sent me them for current batch which is pretty surprising. However I didn't think the results were great.

https://janoshik.com/tests/85160-BAC_water_F1E7JDT7Z39C - 0.722% - should be 0.9% - NOT OK
https://janoshik.com/tests/85161-BAC_water_F1CIJW7EALHY - 0.478 EU/ml - should be below 0.5 EU/ml - OK
https://janoshik.com/tests/85162-BAC_water_SW7EXEIUKJBH - Heavy metals none detected - OK
https://janoshik.com/tests/85163-BAC_water_UAYA4CBTBNXA - pH 8.89 - should be 5-7 (although Hospira is 5.4 – 5.8) - NOT OK

If these guys can get a product that does actually contain 0.9% at the right Ph then £5.95 a vial would be a great find.

Peptiology
www.peptiology.co.uk
Don't test but they are considering it. Didn't even think BAC needed testing ('it's just water and alcohol'). They do a 3ml vial for £3.30 which would be perfect for me and I would be all over it if it had a good COA. I told them they are missing a trick. Would probably skyrocket the price if they had to do 4 sets of testing on each batch so I don't hold out much hope.

PhD Peptides
Said can supply a COA and a 3rd party sterility report for each batch. The sterility report is conducted and produced by Eurofins laboratory testing in the EU. But at a cost of £9.85 for 10ml it's a bit pricey and I would want to see the COA for the current batch before buying.

Anyone else found anything or we just going have to stick with the difficult to obtain Hospira?
 
Now it may sound crazy to many.
What’s wrong with the chinese bac water ?
Just order that when ordering your GLP products and problem is solved.
 
Now it may sound crazy to many.
What’s wrong with the chinese bac water ?
Just order that when ordering your GLP products and problem is solved.
When I suggested the same on STG I got absolutely destroyed in the comments. So much so I left the TG group as a result. They were having none of it and told me I was ignorant and uneducated if I thought vendor bac was acceptable. They even have a headline in their FAQ saying they specifically only recommend Hospira and to actively avoid vendor bac. I was a bit shocked if I'm honest as I was just trying to understand the real world risks but it was honestly like a takedown when I dared mention it there. I guess their point is that none of it is tested and the 3p tests that have been done are universally bad. Only Lambda water and Hospira seem to have tested ok in 3p tests. Both very difficult to get in the UK. I bought vendor bac with my first order but I haven't used it yet. I guessed as I have time before I need it (about 6 weeks) I could do a bit of research and maybe be less ignorant 🙂. I only ordered the Hospira as I have time and it was actually cheaper than what I paid for my vendor bac (which was way overpriced).
 
Hi all,

Bit of a hassle getting Hospira BAC water in the UK. I've just put a pre-order in with https://www.midwiferysupplies.ca/ which came to £31.61 for 5x30ml bottles. Not a bad price if I can make them last.

Got me thinking if anyone has found any good suppliers of BAC with good COAs in the UK. Might be trying to find the holy grail but thought I'd ask. I've asked these sellers so far.

New Wave Peptides
Actually do have COAs and they sent me them for current batch which is pretty surprising. However I didn't think the results were great.

https://janoshik.com/tests/85160-BAC_water_F1E7JDT7Z39C - 0.722% - should be 0.9% - NOT OK
https://janoshik.com/tests/85161-BAC_water_F1CIJW7EALHY - 0.478 EU/ml - should be below 0.5 EU/ml - OK
https://janoshik.com/tests/85162-BAC_water_SW7EXEIUKJBH - Heavy metals none detected - OK
https://janoshik.com/tests/85163-BAC_water_UAYA4CBTBNXA - pH 8.89 - should be 5-7 (although Hospira is 5.4 – 5.8) - NOT OK

If these guys can get a product that does actually contain 0.9% at the right Ph then £5.95 a vial would be a great find.

Peptiology
www.peptiology.co.uk
Don't test but they are considering it. Didn't even think BAC needed testing ('it's just water and alcohol'). They do a 3ml vial for £3.30 which would be perfect for me and I would be all over it if it had a good COA. I told them they are missing a trick. Would probably skyrocket the price if they had to do 4 sets of testing on each batch so I don't hold out much hope.

PhD Peptides
Said can supply a COA and a 3rd party sterility report for each batch. The sterility report is conducted and produced by Eurofins laboratory testing in the EU. But at a cost of £9.85 for 10ml it's a bit pricey and I would want to see the COA for the current batch before buying.

Anyone else found anything or we just going have to stick with the difficult to obtain Hospira?
This is who I use as I,m in the UK


The hospira is pricey but I also have a UK supplier who gets it for a lot less and delivers within 48hrs .

I stopped using the chinese / grey bac water after I had a few vials gel up instantly and whenInchecked the vials they had bits floating in them . So know when I order I always state No Bac water even tho they give it away free with orders
 
Seems like some people hava had issues with BAC water then.
But i will keep use them since i think they are legit.
Have not had any issues what so ever with them.
Why would a company that produces peptides in a with all the restrictions and clean environment then suddenly sell bad bac water.
As long as its sterile its good to go.
People even uses drop it that you use for your eyes to mix with peptides and it works great.

It would be fine if someone did some real test of each vendors bac water and put togehter a list of wich vendors ho sells legit water.

At least myselfy would not buy peptides either from a vendor if they sold bad bac water.
That would disqualify them as a vendor directly.
Bad Bac water = Bad peptides
 
This is who I use as I,m in the UK


The hospira is pricey but I also have a UK supplier who gets it for a lot less and delivers within 48hrs .

I stopped using the chinese / grey bac water after I had a few vials gel up instantly and whenInchecked the vials they had bits floating in them . So know when I order I always state No Bac water even tho they give it away free with orders
Thank you I did have a look at them but it seemed quite expensive for one bottle. I guess you can use it for ages even when it’s opened, I’ve heard some people say it’s fine for years. Don’t know if that’s true but if I could use it for three vials I wouldn't mind £10 extra a vial, but that would still be more expensive for the water than the drug itself for me which seems a bit wrong. Like you say much more convenient to have a UK supplier though.

I don’t want to spark a war here like I did on STG so everyone should do what they feel comfortable with. I’m just interested to see if there is a middle ground between Hospira and a UK pep reseller who has reasonably priced good bac supported by COAs. I haven’t found one yet.
 
But it can only be used for 30 days when opened so I don’t understand the point of getting such big bottles
 
I've had 2 negative reactions to supplier BAC water.
(Tossed the supplier BAC product)
I'll never go back.
Unless they're going to supply a report each batch, and in doing so increase the price. I've got no positive feedback.
I'll import quality.
 
I've had 2 negative reactions to supplier BAC water.
(Tossed the supplier BAC product)
I'll never go back.
Unless they're going to supply a report each batch, and in doing so increase the price. I've got no positive feedback.
I'll import quality.
importing seems to be the only sure way in the UK. Are you using Hospira?

The interview Peter Magic did with Pep Talk was pretty interesting as he was suggesting sterile water for injections is just as good for 30 days.

I’ve just had a Hospira delivery from Canada but it took over two months to come. I might try sterile water with one vial soon. At least sterile water is easy to buy here in the UK. My needle exchange service even provides it free of charge.
 
sterile water is decent. But remember, the alcohol will kill any possible foreign bacteria from your vendor, unless you are filtering your peptides.
I will happily wait 1 to 2 months every time.
I just ordered a few and keep a healthy rotation.

While unlikely, the possibility of absolute zero is 100% never the case. Make the decision based on your risk tolerance.
 
sterile water is decent. But remember, the alcohol will kill any possible foreign bacteria from your vendor, unless you are filtering your peptides.
I will happily wait 1 to 2 months every time.
I just ordered a few and keep a healthy rotation.

While unlikely, the possibility of absolute zero is 100% never the case. Make the decision based on your risk tolerance.
Yes that’s a good point I forgot to say I always filter. I think if you know it’s going to be 2 months you can plan ahead once you start so it’s not actually that difficult just a bit of a pain if you don’t know.
 
Get Hospira. Don't skimp. Multi-use vials need the protection. Its not like you haven't saved a fortune already.
 
Now it may sound crazy to many.
What’s wrong with the chinese bac water ?
Just order that when ordering your GLP products and problem is solved.
Literally what I done, although I forgot to order a set of bac water for my cagri 😂😂😂. Although I'm somewhat glad I did as I'm now apprehensive about using cagri after reading up on the dangers of using it.
 
ZJ seem to stock the bac water with the 0.9 benzyl, would this still be a no go or is it worth getting? Any one had it before?
 

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ZJ seem to stock the bac water with the 0.9 benzyl, would this still be a no go or is it worth getting? Any one had it before?
Without a COA you will be back to the exact same problem. You won't know what it is or if it will be of good quality. Hospira is the only way to know 100%.
 
where do you get yours? in uk
There are no UK resellers of Hospira.

You can import from Canada: https://www.midwiferysupplies.ca/products/bacteriostatic-water-for-injection

Note this page that get's talked about is a US reseller not in the UK: https://www.bacteriostatic-water-uk...ge/products/30ml-hospira-bacteriostatic-water

There is a European reseller too in the Netherlands I believe but I can't remember who they are.

I got mine from BSC.

I've also been in some Telegram groups when local UK people will sell single bottles to others so you might be able to get it that way.
 
Without a COA you will be back to the exact same problem. You won't know what it is or if it will be of good quality. Hospira is the only way to know 100%.
I have been getting mine from OP labs, £5.95 for a 10ml bottle or 2 for £10. There doesn’t seem to be a COA for it so I’m going to give them an email now to see if they have one
 
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I have been getting mine from OP labs, £5.95 for a 10ml bottle or 2 for £10. There doesn’t seem to be a COA for it so I’m going to give them an email now to see if they have one
ive been told to use OP labs too good stuff from what I've read on other forums
 
ive been told to use OP labs too good stuff from what I've read on other forums
I’ve not had a problem with them 🙂 I did send over an email for the COA, but I needed the batch number from the vial, which I don’t have anymore as I’ve used it and discarded the bottle 😂 but I’ll do it after my next order.

I’ve also used bacs from biohackpeptides who provide a COA with theirs. Never had a problem with their stuff either 🙂
 
No idea why people ask vendors for COAs...
 
There are no UK resellers of Hospira.

You can import from Canada: https://www.midwiferysupplies.ca/products/bacteriostatic-water-for-injection

Note this page that get's talked about is a US reseller not in the UK: https://www.bacteriostatic-water-uk...ge/products/30ml-hospira-bacteriostatic-water

There is a European reseller too in the Netherlands I believe but I can't remember who they are.

I got mine from BSC.

I've also been in some Telegram groups when local UK people will sell single bottles to others so you might be able to get it that way.
Yes there are...try vgpeps.com
 

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