UK BAC water in the UK - some vendor responses

DrPEPr said:
^This.
Sterile water for injections (pharma grade) is very cheap and easy to obtain and so is benzyl alcohol.
I've bought a 500ml bottle of (Braun) sterile water for injections for €7,- and a 1000ml bottle of benzyl alcohol for ~€15.

The reason BAC water is expensive is because it is a regulated substance in a lot of places. Meaning you can only get it officially through a doctor/pharmacy.
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I think anyone recommending people make their own bac is crazy. The amount of vendor and amazon bac failing sterility should show you the risks you are taking.
 
Teretere said:
I bought some of the peptiology ones to try with my RS - I will report back. They came in boxes that said refrigerate which I took to be their standard peptide box but other than that the transaction was straightforward.

What’s the shelf like of Hospira like? I might order some from Canada just to be on the safe size, but the lead times are too long for my RS.
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I did say I would report back - my RS pinned tirz with this a couple of days ago with no issues.
 
Phatmax said:
anyone used this one? got good reviews

PhD Products Bacteriostatic Water​

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this is good stuff i got 2 10m bottles and its been spot on no issues at all

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I mean it's not that hard to make your own bac water, cheaper too but it all depends on whether you think it's worth the hassle to save £5-£10 a month.
 
GalloB73 said:
There are no UK resellers of Hospira.

You can import from Canada: https://www.midwiferysupplies.ca/products/bacteriostatic-water-for-injection

Note this page that get's talked about is a US reseller not in the UK: https://www.bacteriostatic-water-uk...ge/products/30ml-hospira-bacteriostatic-water

There is a European reseller too in the Netherlands I believe but I can't remember who they are.

I got mine from BSC.

I've also been in some Telegram groups when local UK people will sell single bottles to others so you might be able to get it that way.
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I just ordered BAC in the netherlands from peptidekoning, it might be who you meant. I saw that they tested theirs. I don't know where they ship to, but for anyone reading this who may be interested here you go.

Pricey at 20 euros for 10 ml but oh well.
 

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GalloB73 said:
When I suggested the same on STG I got absolutely destroyed in the comments. So much so I left the TG group as a result. They were having none of it and told me I was ignorant and uneducated if I thought vendor bac was acceptable. They even have a headline in their FAQ saying they specifically only recommend Hospira and to actively avoid vendor bac. I was a bit shocked if I'm honest as I was just trying to understand the real world risks but it was honestly like a takedown when I dared mention it there. I guess their point is that none of it is tested and the 3p tests that have been done are universally bad. Only Lambda water and Hospira seem to have tested ok in 3p tests. Both very difficult to get in the UK. I bought vendor bac with my first order but I haven't used it yet. I guessed as I have time before I need it (about 6 weeks) I could do a bit of research and maybe be less ignorant 🙂. I only ordered the Hospira as I have time and it was actually cheaper than what I paid for my vendor bac (which was way overpriced).
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Don't take any crap off people on the internet. Go back and make them miserable that you are there.
 
Fostradamus said:
Hospira is now back in stock at vgpep.com. I ordered some earlier today.
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Received in two days and it's genuine Hospira based on the pictures in the attached file.

Worked out at £35 for two 30ml bottles. Not as cheap as Underground Supplies or midwifery.supplies.ca, but I needed it quickly.

I was paying £9.99 for a 10ml bottle of bac, so it works out cheaper than that.
 

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GalloB73 said:
Hi all,

Bit of a hassle getting Hospira BAC water in the UK. I've just put a pre-order in with https://www.midwiferysupplies.ca/ which came to £31.61 for 5x30ml bottles. Not a bad price if I can make them last.

Got me thinking if anyone has found any good suppliers of BAC with good COAs in the UK. Might be trying to find the holy grail but thought I'd ask. I've asked these sellers so far.

New Wave Peptides

New Wave Peptides | Home for high quality peptides 99%+ Purity

Highest quality Peptides with best sellers of BPC-157, TB 500 - UK Delivery
newwavepeptides.co.uk newwavepeptides.co.uk
Actually do have COAs and they sent me them for current batch which is pretty surprising. However I didn't think the results were great.

https://janoshik.com/tests/85160-BAC_water_F1E7JDT7Z39C - 0.722% - should be 0.9% - NOT OK
https://janoshik.com/tests/85161-BAC_water_F1CIJW7EALHY - 0.478 EU/ml - should be below 0.5 EU/ml - OK
https://janoshik.com/tests/85162-BAC_water_SW7EXEIUKJBH - Heavy metals none detected - OK
https://janoshik.com/tests/85163-BAC_water_UAYA4CBTBNXA - pH 8.89 - should be 5-7 (although Hospira is 5.4 – 5.8) - NOT OK

If these guys can get a product that does actually contain 0.9% at the right Ph then £5.95 a vial would be a great find.

Peptiology
www.peptiology.co.uk
Don't test but they are considering it. Didn't even think BAC needed testing ('it's just water and alcohol'). They do a 3ml vial for £3.30 which would be perfect for me and I would be all over it if it had a good COA. I told them they are missing a trick. Would probably skyrocket the price if they had to do 4 sets of testing on each batch so I don't hold out much hope.

PhD Peptides
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Bacteriostatic Water - 10ml - Reconstitution Solution - UK BAC Water | eBay UK

Contains 0.9% Benzyl Alcohol. Independently tested with sterility report, COA, and SDS for complete transparency. Each vial is fitted with adurable Bromobutyl rubber stopper, ensuring seal integrity and resistance to chemicals, even after multiple uses.
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Said can supply a COA and a 3rd party sterility report for each batch. The sterility report is conducted and produced by Eurofins laboratory testing in the EU. But at a cost of £9.85 for 10ml it's a bit pricey and I would want to see the COA for the current batch before buying.

Anyone else found anything or we just going have to stick with the difficult to obtain Hospira?
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Used Reta + BAC with my first cycle of reta and currently starting my 2nd cycle. I haven't had any problems with the BAC water, my reta is always crystal clear and works. Although may not be Hospira ive never had any problems, and considering it when I finally order some Peps from a vendor on here. But as someone said if im trusting someone with my Peptide most likely the quality of the vendor will be consistent through the PEP and BAC, just my logical thinking.
 
Theneedle said:
But as someone said if im trusting someone with my Peptide most likely the quality of the vendor will be consistent through the PEP and BAC, just my logical thinking.
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Based on well-established history of vendor BAC failing tests, "logical" would not be the best term IMHO.

Peptide vendors make zero profit on BAC water, which leaves little motivation to invest in testing. Independent testing of various off-brand BAC waters has consistently proven somewhere around 80% of them to be deficient in some way. This is where the using £5 vendor water to reconstitute a £180 kit of reta escapes logic; kind of like cooking a fine dinner with corn oil instead of olive oil.
 
ZippityDooDah said:
Based on well-established history of vendor BAC failing tests, "logical" would not be the best term IMHO.

Peptide vendors make zero profit on BAC water, which leaves little motivation to invest in testing. Independent testing of various off-brand BAC waters has consistently proven somewhere around 80% of them to be deficient in some way. This is where the using £5 vendor water to reconstitute a £180 kit of reta escapes logic; kind of like cooking a fine dinner with corn oil instead of olive oil.
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Nice to know! I’ve not yet ordered from Vendors on here, but will definitely take this into account.

Thanks!
 
ZippityDooDah said:
Based on well-established history of vendor BAC failing tests, "logical" would not be the best term IMHO.

Peptide vendors make zero profit on BAC water, which leaves little motivation to invest in testing. Independent testing of various off-brand BAC waters has consistently proven somewhere around 80% of them to be deficient in some way. This is where the using £5 vendor water to reconstitute a £180 kit of reta escapes logic; kind of like cooking a fine dinner with corn oil instead of olive oil.
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I have currently sourced Bact water for research purposes only from a legitimate company any idea where I can get it tested in UK rather not be sending it of for $300 at this moment. If it checks out like their COAs it will be a great opportunity I believe.
 
Any new places to get bac water? All seems to be sold out
 
im not in the uk but is herbilabs anygood? Used it for my first bottle of reta and doesnt seem bad at all.
 
ultima thule said:
Just got Hospira delivered today from vgpep. Spoke with the rep and told me they gonna have some new supplies soon. Just keep your finger on the pulse, or send them the message. They are very nice lads and reliable.
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Is there a url
 
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