BAC water that’s reliable

trojanpeptide said:
The BAC works for me. And the ghk isn't burning either, but I think that problem happens when people don't filter sterilize and there is some precipitate which elicits a granulosa reaction.

Anyhow, I don't want to overpay for sterile water that might not even be sterile (!) Follow my steps, it's really that simple.
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Will do thank you
 
Tirzmonkey said:
I am in the minority here but this is one topic I think people spend WAY too much time thinking and talking about. It’s freaking water with .9% benzoyl alcohol added it’s seriously not rocket science. If you trust your vendor to give you good product I think you can trust them with this as well. But whatever 🤣
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I agree with you here - looking at diy options is more about curiosity and efficiency.
Where I am - I only have the option to have grey vendors include a couple kits. Would rather add powder kits and keep delivery sizes more efficient.
Been using those for almost 5 months and haven’t had any concerns- start reading too much and getting curious
 
AgingRegenDamaged said:
Same reason I will be making my own distilled water

For the exact preparation and storage method I was thinking of this technique:

Ingredients: x gallons of distilled water from walmart, target etc. Litre or larger Bottle of Benzyl Alcohol, Dish Soap.

Equipment: One stainless steel or Pyrex saucepan. One funnel. Extremely clean sink.

1. Clean a small already visually clean saucepan in distilled water and washing up liquid using gloves and then with a 70% solution of benzyl alcohol and 30% water.

2. Fill saucepan 90% full with and boil distilled water twice with the funnel on the stove to decontaminate saucepan fully that additionally is poured out each time into a new glass jar or bottle / lid waiting in the sink for storage of finished compound.

3. Boil 990ml in the now fully decontaminated and mostly sterile saucepan with a lid, allow it to rapidly cool in the freezer.

4. Add the 10 ml of benzyl alcohol into the aforementioned glass jar and then finally adding the boiled, distilled water and store in the fridge for a total of 1 litre bac water.
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Since the kitchen is not a sterile environment, it seems highly likely that sterilization will ultimately fail.
 
Estarossa19 said:
BAC water from a vendor in my eyes is sewer water. Hospira's cheap enough to not risk wasting my precious Chinese powder.
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I dont want to stir a chicken coop but give this some thought about your "precious Chinease peptides"

When vendors/factories are making peptides from raws (raw material aka from scratch)
Do they require to use water ?

Chatgpt/Grok

Yes. If you're starting with peptide raw powder, you typically need a solvent to dissolve it before use.

The most common options are:

Bacteriostatic water – sterile water containing a small amount of benzyl alcohol to inhibit bacterial growth. This is the standard choice for most multi-dose peptide vials.

Sterile water for injection – sterile but contains no preservative, so it is generally intended for immediate use or single-use situations.
Some peptides may require a small amount of a special solvent (such as acetic acid solution) to fully dissolve before adding water, but this depends on the specific peptide.
If you're manufacturing or compounding peptides from raw materials, there are also requirements for sterile processing, filtration, testing, and aseptic handling beyond simply adding water.

So to me personally this sorta debunks rhe theory of it being sewer water and even if it was your already injecting it.. more over why would a factory not just use the same water they have filtered and treated for bac water sales... I mean ..
 
rmhla said:
Theres lots places in the internet that still sell phizer bac water, many are buying Hospira water also.
Interesting you mention not wanting to buy bac water from your peptide vendor but you'll inject there peptide... how do you think your pep is original made from raws....

Food for thought
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I am currently using Amazon Bac (German Amazon) i don't know what the situation in other countries is but I'm still alive and so are my peps (but i would definitely buy hospira if i could).
 
How dare you come at me with facts and logic!

I’ve seen numerous people report issues with their peps clouding / gelling up due to using vendor BAC water. I know this is more in relation to Ph not being in proper ranges for certain peptides etc.

I’m sure some vendor BAC would test fine and I know a tooon of people use it due to Hospira not being easily available for many. I personally wouldn’t use it as I’m in the US . If I was in a pinch I’d load up in vendor BAC any day at this point though.
 
Kinda late to the party here but reading through the comments and just adding what I have been using. I have been through a couple orders of needles and have stayed with 29g 1/2 inch. May consider 30g next time. My first bac order was some cheapo reconstitution solution a friend recommended and it worked fine. Then ordered a 4 pack of Parrox before i knew Hospira was the industry standard. So far all is well, no ISR or burning. Hopefully it stays that way.
 
trojanpeptide said:
The better way is to purchase sterile water and just add the benzoyl alcohol. I think 100mL costs about $5 or so. 100mL container, everything is sterile. Light a couple candles, open the container, inject 0.9 mL into the container. You can then use another syringe to inject this solution into small sterile vials (5ml or 10 ml) and store them in the freezer until needed.
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Although not 'suitable for injection', it is sterile and pyrogen free. There is no endotoxin, and no fkn around with saucepans. That 250mL volume is only $4. I suggest this method.
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Shouldn't you have taken 0.9ml of the water out first to get the correct ratio? The amount is so small maybe it doesn't matter.
 
CJsMom said:
Shouldn't you have taken 0.9ml of the water out first to get the correct ratio? The amount is so small maybe it doesn't matter.
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the proper method is outlined in the next message after:

BAC water that’s reliable

229 to 450 is a huge jump what the hell? $450 is an outlier. But the prices did go up this week. Went to $260 at AMSCO's website, was $225 or so. But it seems things have calmed down for now. There is a GB with a case of 25 Hospira BAC for $145 plus $15 shipping. So the cost per shipped...
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it's negligible.
 
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Definitely multiple schools of thought on this subject. It ultimately comes down to your risk tolerance, but if you are here to experiment than your tolerance is likely higher than those here for more medically necessary reasons. Me personally, I feel like my risk tolerance is squarely in the middle. I don't mind sourcing my white chinese powder, but I prefer my H water with a guarantee. Perhaps it's misguided of me to put my blind faith in one but not the other. 🤣 I might change my mind one day.
 
Terminix8 said:
Definitely multiple schools of thought on this subject. It ultimately comes down to your risk tolerance, but if you are here to experiment than your tolerance is likely higher than those here for more medically necessary reasons. Me personally, I feel like my risk tolerance is squarely in the middle. I don't mind sourcing my white chinese powder, but I prefer my H water with a guarantee. Perhaps it's misguided of me to put my blind faith in one but not the other. 🤣 I might change my mind one day.
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If I could get the peps for double the cost with none of the risk then I would buy that in preference, no more testing, just buying it like its amazon would be wonderful. But its not 2x the price its 10-100x the price and with limitations on availability.

BAC is relatively cheap which means you need a lot of it to make it worth the cost of testing. You need something like 10-30ml per kit and that costs $18 for the official stuff or maybe $5 for the cheap stuff buy the kit is more like 10-30x that for a similar price in testing. It is not possible to get unknown BAC tested for quality for $13!
 
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