BBC: Scottish nurse's death linked to tirzepatide

[aloil]

It's one of those things that people don't get because they haven't experienced it. Everyone gets sad sometimes! Everyone loses things sometimes! Everyone has anxiety! Everyone is tired sometimes! Everyone runs late sometimes!

Yes exactly. I didn't even really believe I wasn't somehow deficient in willpower until I started liraglutide and the constant hunger and background thoughts about food were just gone. It's easy to blame other people for not trying hard enough when you've never experienced it yourself.

 

[Revo39564]

"Nurse’s death linked to approved weight-loss drug"


the article also suggests a background of kidney problems:

(disclaimer: I'm not a doctor.) it seems to me like she had preexisting conditions on account of her weight.

But it's a CHEAT CODE. You're just supposed to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and TRY HARDER! It can't possibly be that poorly controlled blood sugar and insulin resistance can make you hungry and fat. Then we'd have to question our preconceived notions on fatness being a lack of self discipline!

Sorry I'll get off my high horse. People want to think it's dangerous because it's hard to believe the fix is this simple and we struggled for nothing.

That’s the problem. I was too fat to reach my boot straps. Lol

 

[Revo39564]

"Nurse’s death linked to approved weight-loss drug"


the article also suggests a background of kidney problems:

(disclaimer: I'm not a doctor.) it seems to me like she had preexisting conditions on account of her weight.

It looks like she had saw a doctor before she started the medication and would’ve had initial bloodwork. More than likely, her kidneys failed due to dehydration and sepsis from pancreatitis…… she could’ve had a cute onset pancreatitis from a gallstone from obesity . maybe she was losing weight before she got on the medication?

 

[chmuse]

It looks like she had saw a doctor before she started the medication and would’ve had initial bloodwork. More than likely, her kidneys failed due to dehydration and sepsis from pancreatitis…… she could’ve had a cute onset pancreatitis from a gallstone from obesity . maybe she was losing weight before she got on the medication?

As someone who works with a lot of nurses (in the US, but I doubt the UK is much better) she was probably incredibly dehydrated. Overworked nurses don't stop to drink water so they don't have to stop to use the restroom, for some it is almost a point of pride. If she was doing the standard 12-13 hour shifts, going home, sleeping, back to work three days in a row, or more if she liked overtime? Kidney issues. To then get pancreatitis on top of that, which causes further dehydration? Perfect storm.

I wouldn't be stupid enough to say it wasn't the glp-1, but there were almost certainly other factors at play here as well.

 

[Revo39564]

As someone who works with a lot of nurses (in the US, but I doubt the UK is much better) she was probably incredibly dehydrated. Overworked nurses don't stop to drink water so they don't have to stop to use the restroom, for some it is almost a point of pride. If she was doing the standard 12-13 hour shifts, going home, sleeping, back to work three days in a row, or more if she liked overtime? Kidney issues. To then get pancreatitis on top of that, which causes further dehydration? Perfect storm.

I wouldn't be stupid enough to say it wasn't the glp-1, but there were almost certainly other factors at play here as well.

As someone who works with a lot of nurses (in the US, but I doubt the UK is much better) she was probably incredibly dehydrated. Overworked nurses don't stop to drink water so they don't have to stop to use the restroom, for some it is almost a point of pride. If she was doing the standard 12-13 hour shifts, going home, sleeping, back to work three days in a row, or more if she liked overtime? Kidney issues. To then get pancreatitis on top of that, which causes further dehydration? Perfect storm.

I wouldn't be stupid enough to say it wasn't the glp-1, but there were almost certainly other factors at play here as well.

As a nurse and a nurse practitioner I agree it is called a nursing or nurse’s bladder. I can go 24 hours between bathroom breaks. But wouldn’t cause the pancreatitis…… a gallstone would be the most likely culprit in the obese. But pancreatitis usually causes a lot of nausea and vomiting and if already borderline dehydrated would be very hard on kidneys. When septic blood clots form and damage the kidneys too. If she still had her gallbladder gallstones would be common……. Female, fat , fertile and 40’s is what we remembered as common patients with gallbladder dysfunction.

 

[chmuse]

As a nurse and a nurse practitioner I agree it is called a nursing or nurse’s bladder. I can go 24 hours between bathroom breaks. But wouldn’t cause the pancreatitis…… a gallstone would be the most likely culprit in the obese. But pancreatitis usually causes a lot of nausea and vomiting and if already borderline dehydrated would be very hard on kidneys. When septic blood clots form and damage the kidneys too. If she still had her gallbladder gallstones would be common……. Female, fat , fertile and 40’s is what we remembered as common patients with gallbladder dysfunction.

That's what I meant- if her kidneys were already an issue due to dehydration, and then she got the pancreatitis on top of that, it was more likely to be a big issue. Not that not using the restroom would cause pancreatitis.

I defer to your expertise on gallstones.

 

[Revo39564]

That's what I meant- if her kidneys were already an issue due to dehydration, and then she got the pancreatitis on top of that, it was more likely to be a big issue. Not that not using the restroom would cause pancreatitis.

I defer to your expertise on gallstones.

Yes I know what you mean …. I agree. Many folks are chronically dehydrated ….l hate gallstones. I pass one every couple years …….. not fun. Better than a kidney stone lol……..

 

[YoYoFat]

They do like to mix up correlation with causation

This.

 

[timewalk]

she could’ve had a cute onset pancreatitis

that seems like a pleasant way to die

 

[AndyPanda]

Saw this while scrolling on FB today…

 

[siouxstine]

But it's a CHEAT CODE. You're just supposed to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and TRY HARDER! It can't possibly be that poorly controlled blood sugar and insulin resistance can make you hungry and fat. Then we'd have to question our preconceived notions on fatness being a lack of self discipline!

Sorry I'll get off my high horse. People want to think it's dangerous because it's hard to believe the fix is this simple and we struggled for nothing.

We’re cheating the grim reaper!